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Agreed, my sister in law pays $100-$300 updating her cellphone and buys a new one at least once a year. And by the time she upgrades she doesn't even know how to use her current one to it's full potential. Me, I've only bought one cellphone in my life for $100 and found I didn't need it. I'd rather use my iPod Touch as a phone for free with a Google Voice App and wifi, I hate monthly fees.
Yea, it seems that the majority of consumers like to keep upgrading when there is no need. I'm personally not that way at all, when I get my macbook I will be holding onto it all throughout college (unless for some reason ill need more power) and then most likely i will buy a new one as a graduation gift to myself.
 
Yea, it seems that the majority of consumers like to keep upgrading when there is no need. I'm personally not that way at all, when I get my macbook I will be holding onto it all throughout college (unless for some reason ill need more power) and then most likely i will buy a new one as a graduation gift to myself.

So you decided to get a MB I thought you were wanting a Mac Mini?
 
From my current understanding the coding for MMS over 3G uses different code than MMS over EDGE would, which would mean they'd have to include both codes if they wanted to enable MMS over EDGE and 3G, this would add more code to most of the devices (iPhone 3G and the next gen iPhone) and they wouldn't need the code to use MMS over EDGE network, so it would take up more room on future releases to support technology that will be 2 years old by the time the software is actually released. This is what Microsoft does, it has support for both new and old technology in the OS which is why their OS tends to take up more room then Mac OS X and will be even more noticeable when Apple drops PPC support.
Okay I understand that but it just kills me that they're doing that.With devices getting more memory it doesn't seem like that extra bit of code would make that big of an impact
 
So you decided to get a MB I thought you were wanting a Mac Mini?

:confused:

Not sure where you got that idea, but I need portability, I've been saving for my MB since October, will probably now pick it up when the back to school deals are on so I can get a new touch as well.

I'd never buy a desktop until I have my own place to live (then, itll be an imac).
 
Okay I understand that but it just kills me that they're doing that.With devices getting more memory it doesn't seem like that extra bit of code would make that big of an impact

Keep in mind it's also about the money, you have to pay the people doing the coding, if you code MMS for both EDGE and 3G you have to pay for twice the amount of work to enable a feature on a device that users, if they really want it can enable themselves.
 
Okay I understand that but it just kills me that they're doing that.With devices getting more memory it doesn't seem like that extra bit of code would make that big of an impact

Memory has nothing to do with the amount of code. it has to do with software bloat if legacy stays around too long.
 
:confused:

Not sure where you got that idea, but I need portability, I've been saving for my MB since October, will probably now pick it up when the back to school deals are on so I can get a new touch as well.

I'd never buy a desktop until I have my own place to live (then, itll be an imac).

You know what, nevermind, I think I was thinking of iParis (I've had a couple of beers :p)
 
Just another one of MANY 1st gen users who does not feel my "old" phone should be excluded from something as basic as MMS.

Overall excited, but feeling Apple may have said uncle to ATT on this one?
 
Wow, that really sucks that us 1st Gen iPhone users don't get MMS. Hopefully they'll make a way through the jailbreak or something to allow us to send MMS over EDGE.

The battery on my 1st gen has been pretty bad lately though, only lasting about 6-12 hours after a full charge. Guess I'll just upgrade when the new iPhone comes out this summer...
 
Just another one of MANY 1st gen users who does not feel my "old" phone should be excluded from something as basic as MMS.

Overall excited, but feeling Apple may have said uncle to ATT on this one?

TBH im sure it was more of a mutual agreement/decision. After all, it benefits both companies.
 
Wow, that really sucks that us 1st Gen iPhone users don't get MMS. Hopefully they'll make a way through the jailbreak or something to allow us to send MMS over EDGE.

The battery on my 1st gen has been pretty bad lately though, only lasting about 6-12 hours after a full charge. Guess I'll just upgrade when the new iPhone comes out this summer...

All they have to do is jailbreak 3.0, the MMS app is already available if you have a jailbroken iPhone

EDIT: and if it's set up the same as the 2nd Gen iPod Touch it's got a fatal error in the bootrom that allows it to be easily jailbroken.
 
From my current understanding the coding for MMS over 3G uses different code than MMS over EDGE would, which would mean they'd have to include both codes if they wanted to enable MMS over EDGE and 3G, this would add more code to most of the devices (iPhone 3G and the next gen iPhone) and they wouldn't need the code to use MMS over EDGE network, so it would take up more room on future releases to support technology that will be 2 years old by the time the software is actually released. This is what Microsoft does, it has support for both new and old technology in the OS which is why their OS tends to take up more room then Mac OS X and will be even more noticeable when Apple drops PPC support.

Yet you're fine with Apple including two applications that do the exact same thing. The contacts app and the phone app. Quit trying to justify their PR BS.
 
A2DP - Howto

Hi all,

I own a VW GTI with Bluetooth Installed. I use my iPhone 3G to make and receive calls via Bluetooth with the Bluetooth module installed in the car. It works great.

The VW GTI Bluetooth module also supports A2DP - so I was excited that maybe I can send my iPhone audio to the car - but no success so far.

In the VW Bluetooth manual it says to use your phone and adjust the settings so that you send the phone's audio to Bluetooth but I can't find any settings on the iPhone to let me do this.

Any thoughts would be great thanks.

Cheers


JeffAU
 
Yet you're fine with Apple including two applications that do the exact same thing. The contacts app and the phone app. Quit trying to justify their PR BS.

um....what?! when did I ever say I was fine with that? AGAIN (for the second time in this thread) check my signature, I do not have an iPhone, I have an iPod Touch which does not have a phone app.
 
Hi all,

I own a VW GTI with Bluetooth Installed. I use my iPhone 3G to make and receive calls via Bluetooth with the Bluetooth module installed in the car. It works great.

The VW GTI Bluetooth module also supports A2DP - so I was excited that maybe I can send my iPhone audio to the car - but no success so far.

In the VW Bluetooth manual it says to use your phone and adjust the settings so that you send the phone's audio to Bluetooth but I can't find any settings on the iPhone to let me do this.

Any thoughts would be great thanks.

Cheers


JeffAU

Do you have the new 3.0 beta? otherwise your iPhone doesn't support A2DP until it's upgraded to 3.0
 
um....what?! when did I ever say I was fine with that? AGAIN (for the second time in this thread) check my signature, I do not have an iPhone, I have an iPod Touch which does not have a phone app.

You just said Apple isn't Microsoft which is why they shouldn't support older tech (that's a moronic idea). And I countered that with there being a ton of stupid redundancies in iPhone OS.

So you're really glad that Apple isn't supporting MMS for the first generation iPhone? That's ridiculous.
 
You just said Apple isn't Microsoft which is why they shouldn't support older tech (that's a moronic idea). And I countered that with there being a ton of stupid redundancies in iPhone OS.
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Tuff, those two statements don't even conflict......
 
You just said Apple isn't Microsoft which is why they shouldn't support older tech (that's a moronic idea). And I countered that with there being a ton of stupid redundancies in iPhone OS.

So you're really glad that Apple isn't supporting MMS for the first generation iPhone? That's ridiculous.

So what you're saying is they shouldn't work on reducing the redundancies and include more? No I'm not glad about it but it is a step forward, if they don't reduce the redundancies soon we'll have a Snow Leopard like release for iPhone where it just reduces bloatware/footprint and only adds a few new features, and I as an iPod Touch owner would rather not pay $10 for an update that they should have been working on all the while.
 
Tuff, those two statements don't even conflict......

but they do. He's talking about keeping lean code (his justification for not having MMS on the original iPhone) and yet Apple has a number of redundancies (unnecessary, I might add) built right into iPhone OS right now.
 
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