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Are you sure you aren't exaggerating this? Do you have any data to back this up?

I mean, Apple has been using Samsung chips for years and they will continue to use Samsung chips. They may even start using OLED screens from Samsung. Its outrageous that a company like Apple could have let this happen.
But I thought that apple was going to be using the TSMC chip in the iPhone 7 ?!
 
I'll definitely have to upgrade to a 7 Plus later this year when it releases, I can't take this

Apple completely screwed up by not making sure both chips have the same power consumption. Now you are telling me that are going to throw even more money at Apple by buying iPhone 7? Where is the logic?

I totally agree with your post though. I have two iPhone 6S Pluses and after running some tests I can definitely tell that Samsung has 30-40% worse battery life compared to TSMC.

And you can safely ignore what Apple said, of course they will say the difference is minimal, they are not going to admit to such a major mistake, because that would make people returning their devices.
 
Apple completely screwed up by not making sure both chips have the same power consumption. Now you are telling me that are going to throw even more money at Apple by buying iPhone 7? Where is the logic?

I totally agree with your post though. I have two iPhone 6S Pluses and after running some tests I can definitely tell that Samsung has 30-40% worse battery life compared to TSMC.

And you can safely ignore what Apple said, of course they will say the difference is minimal, they are not going to admit to such a major mistake, because that would make people returning their devices.
What about others that don't see anything close to that type of difference?
 
6S TSMC chip, I'm getting incredible battery life
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What about others that don't see anything close to that type of difference?
Did "others" run any kind of tests? No, they didn't. So really they don't know how much worse Samsung is compared to TSMC, they just took Apple's word for it.
 
Did "others" run any kind of tests? No, they didn't. So really they don't know how much worse Samsung is compared to TSMC, they just took Apple's word for it.
Why would you assume that they didn't? As I recall there were other sites looking into it and other members too based on various different previous threads on the topic.
 
Apple completely screwed up by not making sure both chips have the same power consumption. Now you are telling me that are going to throw even more money at Apple by buying iPhone 7? Where is the logic?

I totally agree with your post though. I have two iPhone 6S Pluses and after running some tests I can definitely tell that Samsung has 30-40% worse battery life compared to TSMC.

And you can safely ignore what Apple said, of course they will say the difference is minimal, they are not going to admit to such a major mistake, because that would make people returning their devices.

30-40% difference? I find that hard to believe.
 
geekbench 3 shows 30% difference in battery life between tsmc and samsung.
Only test that does. And it isolates the chip which is a small part of the phone's overall load. When you factor in the screen, cellular, GPS, wifi, and Bluetooth radios, the chip becomes a much smaller portion. If all you use your phone for is that one geek bench test then you can can claim 30%. The rest of us use all of the phone and then the difference between a TSMC and Samsung chipped phone drops to to the 3%. And there have been a number of people reporting their Samsung chipped phone had better life than their TSMC chipped phone. So this whole thing turns out to be a non issue for the tens of millions of users happily using their iPhones.
 
Is anyone that is getting really good battery life have Facebook or Messenger installed?

I can usually manage 8-9 hours usage and 30 hours of standby time and Facebook is always at the top with a decent amount of background time.

6S Plus, TSMC chip as well
 
Is anyone that is getting really good battery life have Facebook or Messenger installed?

I can usually manage 8-9 hours usage and 30 hours of standby time and Facebook is always at the top with a decent amount of background time.

6S Plus, TSMC chip as well
On average been getting 10-12% from Facebook but on this charge so far
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Only test that does. And it isolates the chip which is a small part of the phone's overall load. When you factor in the screen, cellular, GPS, wifi, and Bluetooth radios, the chip becomes a much smaller portion. If all you use your phone for is that one geek bench test then you can can claim 30%. The rest of us use all of the phone and then the difference between a TSMC and Samsung chipped phone drops to to the 3%. And there have been a number of people reporting their Samsung chipped phone had better life than their TSMC chipped phone. So this whole thing turns out to be a non issue for the tens of millions of users happily using their iPhones.

but that was exactly the point that there is a difference between chips when you eliminate other variables. When you play games with your phone, cpu is pretty much the part which consumes battery.
 
but that was exactly the point that there is a difference between chips when you eliminate other variables. When you play games with your phone, cpu is pretty much the part which consumes battery.
Pretty much think the screen is pretty big component to battery drain when playing games. Oh and do you turn your radios all off when playing games? Background stuff still happening on radios during game play. And this isn't a game boy, so for vast majority, games are way down the list. Other than on here for a few members what chip people got is of little consequence. Main stream media has completely dropped this red herring. The chip difference is way, way, way overblown. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
 
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I wanted to start a new thread, but I'm placing my complaint here. My experience with battery life of the iphone 6s has been variable, but not good overall. These are the problems I have:

1. Battery stays at 100% for hours, even if I use it.
2. Battery drops quite slow above 60%, but then drains with double speed.
3. Facebook messenger keeps draining battery even though I have stripped it from all rights. No notifications, no location, no background refresh. It still keeps running in the background!
4. Sometimes my phone has amazing battery for a while, like using waze for 1 hour with screen on, 4g, wifi, location, and only dropping 10%! Other times I open an app and it drops 7% with no reason.
5. Look at this horrible battery stats! That's about 1 hour of screen on time and battery is almost drained half!
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Additional info: I have all push notifications off except tapatalk, messages and gmail. All background refresh is off except gmail. All location is off except some ios system settings.

Maybe I'm living in an area with bad reception? Is that really the main cause of bad battery? Because with my phone severely handicapped like this, and battery life still horrendous, how can I still have an enjoyable experience...
 
Take a day and just turn off cell service on that phone and see if you see the same kind of quick draining. If not, you know your cause.
 
Pretty much think the screen is pretty big component to battery drain when playing games. Oh and do you turn your radios all off when playing games? Background stuff still happening on radios during game play. And this isn't a game boy, so for vast majority, games are way down the list. Other than on here for a few members what chip people got is of little consequence. Main stream media has completely dropped this red herring. The chip difference is way, way, way overblown. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

When you eliminate all other variables (like the screen) you get the 30% difference between two chips. And that is a huge difference. If you use apps which rely heavy on cpu, you arent happy to see such a huge difference between same two phones depending on the chips. You can always ignore it by saying, that for majority everything is ok... But it doesnt change the fact that there is a difference between iphones. For sure the phone isnt gameboy, and the phone isnt a tv either, so dont play netflix then. It is not a computer, so dont run adv. calc programs...

I dont know what you do with your phone but some e.g. play games alot and if you need to charge the phone more often because of the chip, you arent happy to participate another lottery when buying a new phone.
 
When you eliminate all other variables (like the screen) you get the 30% difference between two chips. And that is a huge difference. If you use apps which rely heavy on cpu, you arent happy to see such a huge difference between same two phones depending on the chips. You can always ignore it by saying, that for majority everything is ok... But it doesnt change the fact that there is a difference between iphones. For sure the phone isnt gameboy, and the phone isnt a tv either, so dont play netflix then. It is not a computer, so dont run adv. calc programs...

I dont know what you do with your phone but some e.g. play games alot and if you need to charge the phone more often because of the chip, you arent happy to participate another lottery when buying a new phone.
My point wasn't that I never play games, or never watch Netflix, or never run calc programs. I don't subscribe to, it's all or nothing, point of view. The iPhone is a computer, that does multiple things and not a dedicated game machine was my point. As a tool to doing these multiple things, the chip difference falls into far less significance to the vast majority of users, the vast majority of time.

I understand your opinion, and see it as a purist point, where you desire the best from each individual component. Nothing wrong with that desire. Since their is variability in performance of the battery, screen, radio chips, GPU, and SoC. I don't see any way for anyone to receive a phone with all these sub assemblies maximized at the top end of their manufacturing variability. Everyone is going to get a mix of performance. Being ignorant to the other components variability does not mean it isn't present.

I have seen no tests to isolate the other components in an assembled phone. Being the pragmatist I am, I also have lingering doubts that the one geek bench test is truelly representing the real variability users will see in daily operations of the chip. There have been some users that have exchanged phones for various reasons other than chip and have reported that their Samsung chipped phone evidenced better battery life than their TSMC chipped phone. This makes me think the chip is not the sole nor overwhelming player in some instances. Again pointing to multi component variability.

In the end I have no desire to prove you wrong in your opinion. You make some valid points. And from a purist standpoint it would be nice to receive the best performing, in all aspects, components in every phone. I don't see how that is practically possible, and choose to emphasize the overall performance of the device. When I think of the signal location and use variability presented by how each phone is being used, this further clouds trying to attribute performance and battery life to a single component.

iPhones have exhibited an interesting attribute. That the synergy of the entire system seems to outperform the technical specs of the individual components. Over and over again other phones have better numbers on paper for a given chip or included ram memory. Yet when looking at performance the iPhone either surpasses or comes amazingly close.

When I do something with my phone that uses up more battery more quickly, I plug it in sooner and charge it up. For me the normal operation of how I use my phone is not impacted by which chip I have. It's as simple as that for me. I don't even think about the chip, any more than I think about the power draw due to my location to cell tower, or need to turn up screen brightness in daylight. I just do it and go on.
 
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Have a TSMC chip originally but lost phone and my replacement had a Samsung chip, the battery difference is def noticeable.
 
Alright, tested battery with cellular off. I'm getting extraordinary battery life now. At the end of the day with normal use I have 75 percent left.

What can I actually do about bad cellular reception other than move or get another carrier?

I must note however that I had a better reception with my previous phone than this iPhone 6s.
 
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