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Think I have raided the ATV app store for everything worth anything and im in 500mb on my atv4 64gig.
Most expensive game of Crossy Road I ever played. dont even know were any of my atvs are anymore.. they may be in a box in the basement along with a steele series atv controller.
I live in Denmark so not much use for atvs apart from netflix (sucky danish version with not much content)

I really want to buy this speaker but its like a puzzle with this apple ecosystem. just when you think you lay the last puzzle piece a new one turns up.
Well this piece better support spotify etc.
 
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No way, Apple is eating this up. What better way for them to promote their own upcoming (but still unreleased) products than by 'leaking' some information through another unreleased product?

Trust me, Apple knew full well the HomePod's coding would be picked apart by devs. And the internet always loves a good easteregg hunt. It keeps HomePod in the headlines, keeps the hype train running, and comes directly from Apple. It's a win-win in my opinion.
This. I wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose by Apple to build hype.
 
Unfortunately no.

It order for it to be enjoyed in 4K the source and transmission has to be shot in 4K.

Network television and sports resolution still tops out at 1080i.

iTunes movies, Netflix, YouTube, etc will be what really benefits from the 4K capability on the new Apple TV.

I wouldn't be so sure, I would be very surprised if most professional sport isn't being shot in 4k at this point. Obviously the networks are still transmitting it at 1080 but if its being shot in 4k there would be little to stop them streaming it.
 
But I still might wait another year until I can get something around 72” 4K HDR for between $800-1000.

I'm not sure what you have researched for pricing on 4K TVs on the market, but a 72 inch 4K/HDR TV for a price point of 800 to 1000 will get you cheap quality TVs that will not last from manufactures like Vizeo, Highsense, Sansui, etc. And that might sound like that's a great deal when you factor in the size with the price point, but those TV manufacturers make cheap, poorly manufactured chipsets in the displays and are not nearly as quality as TV manufacturers like Samsung, LG and Sony. If you wanted a high-end 4K/HDR TV at 72 Inch, you would pay a lot higher than $1000.

Last year, I upgraded to Samsung's latest 4K/HDR TV and even though I could have saved a lot of money by purchasing a cheaper TV manufacturer with a larger display, it's very difficult to beat Samsung in quality with and their chip sets last way longer over the competitors in terms of longevity. Plus the display is amazin with 4K Gaming on my PS4 Pro. (Soon to be adding the XBox Ond X).

All in all, even if you had to sacrifice the size of the TV for whatever price point you have budgeted for, I would focus on the top TV manufacturers that make the best TVs for viewing experiences and build quality. If something goes wrong with the TV and you are out of your return period, Or don't have an extended warranty, you would expect a top name brand TV to stand behind their product. You won't get that with cheaper brands with a larger TV that you paid a lower price point for.
 
Imagine if all these features were just planted there on purpose. Apple would basically ruin everyone's trust in the rumor mill. That would be a sight to behold.
 
Well, I would hope they would update Apple TV with 4K. If not then then they might as well take it out to the pasture.
 
Sounds like the new Apple TV might make it into my bag along with the new iPhone then :) . I'm really enjoying the quality finds over the usual speculations.
 
Beneath those ModeDolby and ModeHDR10 lines is a line with ModeHLG.
HLG = Hybrid Log Gamma = used for LIVE TV broadcasts.
 
H265 is the way to go, Optical audio should be added back and I hope apple adds HDMI 2.1. HDR, Atmos just they should certify it all.
 
Let’s all take a minute and bow our head to the Apple engineer who blessed us with these goodies. Amen.
He or she and their friends spent a whole lunch break thinking of things that would get MacRumors readers all excited, and added them alll :)
 
I wouldn't be so sure, I would be very surprised if most professional sport isn't being shot in 4k at this point. Obviously the networks are still transmitting it at 1080 but if its being shot in 4k there would be little to stop them streaming it.

It’s out there. I have Directv and while not a lot they do show various MLB, NBA, golf, and Premier League soccer. Sky broadcasts F1 in 4K if you live over in Europe.

For NBA it’s a lot of in area feeds which are being shot in 4K. Almost every new area being built has the infrastructure included for at least 4K.
 
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Their biggest leak was probably when someone left behind one of the test iPhones in a bar.

Yes but as I said to someone else, that leak concerned only one product. This firmware has revealed information about at least 3 upcoming products.
 
HOW do developers get away with reporting findings like these? The Apple Developer program requires agreement to an NDA for beta software. Sharing information like this is a breach of said agreement.
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"Many Bothans died to bring us this information." - Mon Mothma

The firmware wasn't released through the dev program - it was a public release. The link's still active, but rather than remove the file, Apple seem to have replaced it with a different one (it had a different hash) which has been deliberately corrupted so it won't decompress.

I'd have expected the web to be awash with hosted copies of the original file, but it isn't. Most of the sites that often host copies of Apple firmware just have the official Apple link, which is now no use.
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No way, Apple is eating this up. What better way for them to promote their own upcoming (but still unreleased) products than by 'leaking' some information through another unreleased product?

Trust me, Apple knew full well the HomePod's coding would be picked apart by devs. And the internet always loves a good easteregg hunt. It keeps HomePod in the headlines, keeps the hype train running, and comes directly from Apple. It's a win-win in my opinion.

I know there's a lot of people thinking this was a deliberate link, but I don't quite follow the logic. The only place this is drumming up any interest (OK, a frenzy) is on websites like this which are populated by the one type of customer Apple doesn't need to hype its products to. Anyone on here thinking about a new phone is already going to wait till next month to see what's announced at the Keynote, these leaks aren't going to change that or influence the decision. I don't see any of Apple's potential non-techy customers excitedly talking about the new iPhone or ATV as a result of these leaks.

Plus, product leaks such as this have a negative effect on existing product sales, and Tim Cook has already said in the past that this is something that's hit Apple hard with previous leaks.
 
No it is not. It took years for studios and networks to go from Analog to Digital. And that actuallly happened because the FCC forced it to happen. 4K means networks and studios and content distributors will have to upgrade their equipment. And OTA 4K will also require the FCC’s input.

*Waits eagerly for a 4K OTA Antenna
 
I don’t understsnd why 60p shuld be jerky, unless the sorurce is even higher, or hoy have banrwirch idsues, unless of course the hardvare acceleration only supportd 24p and 60p must be done bu cpu thst may or mey not be up to the task

It's because films are shot at 24p and 60/24 is not a whole number which leads to jerky movement when a 24p film is played back on a 60p system.
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Beneath those ModeDolby and ModeHDR10 lines is a line with ModeHLG.
HLG = Hybrid Log Gamma = used for LIVE TV broadcasts.

I suspect Apple put this in because it is an open (i.e. free) standard so no licencing costs.
 
I don’t understsnd why 60p shuld be jerky, unless the sorurce is even higher, or hoy have banrwirch idsues, unless of course the hardvare acceleration only supportd 24p and 60p must be done bu cpu thst may or mey not be up to the task

Films are 24 Frames / sec which don't match 60 Hz refresh. So the video is displayed using 3:2 pull down method.

https://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/pulldown-3.asp
 
This information not withstanding it's a foregone conclusion that Apple must update ATV4 this year with 4K and HDR to remain relevant. Every other premium streaming box is 4K and 4K TVs are not for "early adopters" anymore. They are the norm when you go to replace anything bigger than a 32" TV now. (Not suggesting 4K is necessary or worthwhile on "smaller screens, just that they are not expensive bleeding edge anymore and widely available).


Imagine if all these features were just planted there on purpose. Apple would basically ruin everyone's trust in the rumor mill. That would be a sight to behold.

Trust in the rumor mill? It's a rumor mill. It's for entertainment purposes only. Anyone who trusts rumors is either lazy or a fool, maybe both. That said there are some rumor sources that are more believable than than others. For example, double eye-roll for anything printed in Digitimes. Sure maybe there are right once in a while but so is a broken clock.
 
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4K on Apple TV will be pointless without support for 24fps output support which apple still refuse to implement. Horizontal panning shots are terrible to watch on the Apple TV.
 
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