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The first rumor I'm actually excited for. I love 60p video for home movies, but I value 4K above it. Not having to choose will be great.
 
Wow... How did this happen? It's almost impossible to fathom that a firmware release for a speaker that isn't even shipping holds this much information about a device Apple clearly intended to shake up the market.
Connecting the dots from something Gruber wrote, it seems like the HomePod is getting into wider internal testing release, for a bunch of Apple employees to test at home. Some of whom are probably also testing iPhone 7s's and iPhone Pro's, so it makes sense to have some info about the new phones in the HomePod. But, yeah, it's likely someone's getting some very stern and disapproving looks in the offices there this week. There's always the possibility it was on purpose but that seems unlikely since it's yielding info about / generating hype for (but stealing thunder from the grand release of) the new phones, not the HomePod.
 
Why would Apple downgrade? They already got rid of the 16GB tier, although 32GB is starting to look a little cramped these days too.

I think an iphone 8 with a high price wouldn't start at 32. 7s might start from 32, but iphone 8 will be probably start from 128, but it's apple, so they start from 64gb.
 
Engineer: New HomePod firmware is ready. Should we release it?
Tim Cook: Are you sure you didn't miss any iPhone 8 feature to include in the firmware?
Engineer: Do not worry, all iPhone 8 feature information is included.
Tim Cook: Release it.
Engineer: Ok.

oh yes, this is exactly the kind of conversation a CEO of a multi billion company would have...
 
My question now is, what do you imagine the wireless charging accessories will look like? A mat where the phone will rest? Or some kind of stand? What would be really great if you could include it in the stand of the imac. I know it's not possible because of the aluminium but still, it would be great. What do you guys think?
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I think an iphone 8 with a high price wouldn't start at 32. 7s might start from 32, but iphone 8 will be probably start from 128, but it's apple, so they start from 64gb.
Where do you all have this iPhone 7s stuff from? There are litterally no leaks indicating anything. There is this screen resultion that was found in the homepod but there isn't anything else to work with. And one question remains: What would a iphone 7s look like? Will they stay with the A10 chip? Or will the iPhone 7s and the 8 have the same specs internally but just a different design? There is not much room for two high end phones for Apple, unless the design will be the only difference. I don't see them putting an A11 in one phone and not the other. And dumping Touch ID on one phone but still having it on the other phone, both being released at the same time? Seems a bit messy to me.
 
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It was a single reference to 6.5-inch. In other parts of the code, the new iPhone is referred to as "D22" and "2017 iPhone."

I wouldn't be surprised if the iOS dev team was given incomplete or misleading information about the OLED iPhone. Apple separates the hardware and software teams to maintain secrecy. The display resolution and aspect ratio information in the code is correct and that's what matters.

I was hoping it was the iPhone 8 Plus. The code was: 3xRetina6.5Inch 1125x2436x3x326.
That would give it a ppi of 412, the 7 Plus has a ppi of 401 if I recall correctly.
You are probably right that it's nothing, maybe an early prototype they scrapped. Just like the 7s, there has been no real leaks for an iPhone with a 6.5 inch screen, sadly.
 
I am wondering what the Iphone info is doing in the HomePod firmware. Its running a different IOS and how much does the HomePod need to know about the IPhone, certainly not it's camera resolution.
Well, I assume they run a fullfledged iOS on there because they use the A8 chip for the homepod. And as with any code, choping things up only gets messy. There might be references which have been forgotten and then Bugs and Errors will occur. I think that they are not really finished with the OS for the homepod and not enable the restrictions we would normally face with iOS. And as other developers already noted: the normal restriction systems are not really in place with internal software, and this HomePod Update was meant for internal use only. But again, at the end of the day those are all only assumptions. I just hoope that Pearl ID is what we think it is and that it is really implemented. But guessing the date of the HomePod update and the likely launch of the phone I think all findings are pretty solid indications to what the iPhone 8 will look like.
 
It surprises me, that nearly 1 month before the Keynote there are absolutly no detailed rumors about the 7S!
I'm going out on a limb here:
Faster processor
Better camera
iOS 11
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Damn. The iPhone 8 is going to be niceeeeee! Every feature is something we've wanted for years. This phone is turning out to be the complete package!
You've been waiting for years for a 4K selfie camera? It's only there for 3D facial recognition in lieu of TouchID.
 
Y'all, please do not forget! The return value for isFront4k60VideoSupported could also be FALSE! There is no way to know until there are further leaks or until the keynote.
 
oh yes, this is exactly the kind of conversation a CEO of a multi billion company would have...

You gotta wonder though...

How do you think conversations go when it's like

"Should we dump all this toxic waste into the nearby lake and deny all allegations in court?"
"- What toxic waste?"
" That's what I mean. I'll go start the van"
 
It surprises me, that nearly 1 month before the Keynote there are absolutly no detailed rumors about the 7S!

We can expect the exterior to be the same as iPhone 7, so a leak from the supply chain would look like iPhone we already have in our hands, except maybe for a new color.

The new SoC will probably be the same as the one of the OLED, I think there will be something inside to help machine learning and it will be of course faster than the A10 with the same architecture (low power cores and high power cores faster than the one in A10).
I think it will come with an improved sensor for the camera to further enhance portrait mode on the plus.
All this stuff is difficult to leak, and even if it does you can't know what's inside the A11 from a picture, so it wouldn't matter.
I'd really love promotion, since I tried the new iPad pro I'm craving for that display technology on the iPhone, but I'm afraid they could just keep current LCD and leave the brand new display for the premium model only.
 
We can expect the exterior to be the same as iPhone 7, so a leak from the supply chain would look like iPhone we already have in our hands, except maybe for a new color.

The new SoC will probably be the same as the one of the OLED, I think there will be something inside to help machine learning and it will be of course faster than the A10 with the same architecture (low power cores and high power cores faster than the one in A10).
I think it will come with an improved sensor for the camera to further enhance portrait mode on the plus.
All this stuff is difficult to leak, and even if it does you can't know what's inside the A11 from a picture, so it wouldn't matter.
I'd really love promotion, since I tried the new iPad pro I'm craving for that display technology on the iPhone, but I'm afraid they could just keep current LCD and leave the brand new display for the premium model only.
There is just one problem with this: The reports indicate that Apple ordered 70 Mio OLED dispalys for 2017. That is the normal batch for a new iPhone. I can't imagine Apple releasing and iPhone 7s and iPhone 8 and still get 70 Mio. orders for the iPhone 8. And reports also indicate that Samsung will even produce up to 95 Mio OLED displays just for the iPhone. And all that just for the iPhone 8 alone as a high premium device? That seems pretty high to me.
 
It surprises me, that nearly 1 month before the Keynote there are absolutly no detailed rumors about the 7S!

That's because it'll look identical to the 7 apart from new internals. The factories probably don't even know they're building a 'new' devices and so nobody has bothered leaking it, or it's just too boring and predictable to leak!
 
There is just one problem with this: The reports indicate that Apple ordered 70 Mio OLED dispalys for 2017. That is the normal batch for a new iPhone. I can't imagine Apple releasing and iPhone 7s and iPhone 8 and still get 70 Mio. orders for the iPhone 8. And reports also indicate that Samsung will even produce up to 95 Mio OLED displays just for the iPhone. And all that just for the iPhone 8 alone as a high premium device? That seems pretty high to me.

If they are not making the 7s because iPhone 8 will be priced as iPhone 7 I'd be really happy, as everyone here.
But if they are going to to raise prices I want an alternative, and buying last year's model, even at a $100 discount is not very appealing.
 
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It surprises me, that nearly 1 month before the Keynote there are absolutly no detailed rumors about the 7S!

And rumors about an iPhone with 6.5'' screen. So maybe the only iPhones to be released are iPhone 8 and 8+
 
As if the iPhone 7 camera wasn't good enough. And iPhone camera just keeps getting better and better. This is going to be one big iPhone release.

Things are getting slightly better year after year.
Crazy times man.
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It surprises me, that nearly 1 month before the Keynote there are absolutly no detailed rumors about the 7S!

Because iPhone 7s won't have anything exciting.
What's there to leak about an s-model? Sure, Touch ID and Siri were s-features, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a spec bumped 7 with like 1 additional who cares feature.

The 8/Pro/Edition will steal the show anyway.
 
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That's because that part of their security is actually working as intended.
Or there’s not much to say
It surprises me, that nearly 1 month before the Keynote there are absolutly no detailed rumors about the 7S!
That’s an easy one.
It will look like the iPhone 7 with better specs.
There you have all the leaks you want.
 
It would be so funny if all this stuff turned out to be false and Apple were in fact trolling everyone with the HomePod firmware release :D (I hope it is all true, the iPhone 8 will be fantastic if it is but it would so funny)
 
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