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Google and Amazon are literally giving those things away as subsidized tchotchkes through hundreds of different product purchases and service partnerships. Apple can't compete with that.

Despite all the groupthink about Siri not being good, it has outperformed my Google Home on most of my daily voice tasks that I have put head to head. For one area - Siri blows Google out of the water on sports related questions and it is not close.
Siri is good for getting stuff done and with it’s tight integration with iOS it does things my google home can’t do.

The google home is better at general knowledge questions.
 
I think it makes much more sense to aggregate models than to eompare each and every model within a spart speaker ecosystem. Only slightly less silly would be to list the black and white Home Pods separately. There are a dozen smart speaker brands out there, and on that list Apple would be third, not ninth, behind Amazon & Google.
 
The question is do we really need more disposable electronics as the function is available on a smart phone. Who are these devices catered to. When phones have stereo sound that does a comparable job.

What is the point of all this?
I wanted to try it out as many people I know have one or more. If I buy - or don't buy - a single Amazon Echo won't really do much to impact the amount of disposable electronics being made. Part of my $15 dollar trial - I could literally spend that on dinner easily - was just to see what the point was/is.
 
I'm pretty happy with our HomePod. I poke fun at Siri a lot, but HomeKit is our #1 use case for Siri, and the combination works more often than it fails. I just wish Siri was able to use conjunctions ("Turn off the lights and lock the door").
 
Whoa number nine! The HomePod is too expensive and it needs a lot of work. I guess some people just want the speaker to listen to music only and not other things like amazon and google home could do.
 
Apple has made several attempts to produce good speakers. All failed due to a combination of compatibility and price.

I still have a iSub that does not work on any intel Mac, and that is USB so it is simply not supported by apple anymore.
The only reference I can find for the older Apple Hi-Fi speakers is the original press release.

I am quite sure there are more but they don't come to mind.

Apple needs to:
USE THE DAMM UNIVERSAL SPEAKER PLUG AND STOP USING PROPRIETARY CONNECTORS
support the speaker after it is released.
price them so they are worth it.

Apple didn't make the iSub, it was made by Harman Kardon so talk to them about compatibility. The only failed speaker Apple made was the Apple Hi-Fi and it had a standard 3.5mm jack on it as well as a dock connector.

The HomePod is very different as it is a self-contained music device that can also work with AirPlay/AirPlay2 which have been going strong for 15 years.

But rant away.
 
Lol @ some comments saying this should be $100-200. Considering the fact that it costs apple around $216 to make one...unless they come out with a less powerful version.

I have 2 of these and haven’t once regretted my decision. I gave away my 2 echos when this was released. Siri is much better at controlling all my lights/HomeKit accessories. It was hell whenever I added a new accessory with Alexa.

Finally, sound is where this thing shines and the others just aren’t touching it.
 
I wanted to try it out as many people I know have one or more. If I buy - or don't buy - a single Amazon Echo won't really do much to impact the amount of disposable electronics being made. Part of my $15 dollar trial - I could literally spend that on dinner easily - was just to see what the point was/is.

Lol, I am not calling you out. I am only saying why are these companies producing more waste to devices we already have. Marketing and the low affordable price reels the consumer in to something that is a duplication of services. Offering competing digital services is great, considering we had Alexa app available on iOS, Android and FireTV. I notice FB is getting in on these communication segments, are people’s phones not smart enough that we need specific task devices replicating these functions.
 
9th out of 10...almost in last place...and yet top management remains the same
 
Needs to have broad Bluetooth support at the very minimum. Not all of my friend or devices have AirPlay. This is a feature that Apple can implement via software update.
 
Well .. this is what Apple gets for not including something as simple as Bluetooth. That's why I held off, and I'm far from alone on that one. No Bluetooth, no sale.
 
Apple didn't make the iSub, it was made by Harman Kardon so talk to them about compatibility. The only failed speaker Apple made was the Apple Hi-Fi and it had a standard 3.5mm jack on it as well as a dock connector.

The HomePod is very different as it is a self-contained music device that can also work with AirPlay/AirPlay2 which have been going strong for 15 years.

But rant away.

I looked up the box it came in. You're right it was only sold by apple. there was no apple logo on the box itself.
 
Because the sound quality is so comparable.


Anyone who truly cares about sound quality buys a $30 Dot and plugs it into the high quality system they already own.

Apple has never made ANYTHING that sounds better than mid-range mediocre.

Lol they can't even figure out how to let me adjust EQ in third party apps lol.

Even a on sale $30 Dot has graphic EQ now.
 
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So the Amazon line is selling
61% of the market.

Google Home line is selling
17% of the market.

And Apples one product is at
4% of the market.

And the other 18% of the market made up by a plethora of lesser knowns, presumably.

Sure Apple is only selling one product at a high price and margin, but Amazon owns the market right now.
 
Yeah, great sound is certainly a niche market.

I love HomePod and I don't even mind $350 price tag. I think $350 is actually a good price given the audio quality. But it's not particularly flexible due to lack of audio inputs and surround configuration.

If Apple adds Dolby Atmos to HomePod via software update and enable Apple TV to act as a home theater hub (HDMI eARC input), I bet a ton of home theater aficionados would snatch these things up.

HomePod as a home theatre sound system?

Hahahaha ... good one.
 
Looks worse if you combine products by company...

Amazon 61%
Google 17%
Apple 4%

Amazon is killing it on the hardware front but Google is still king in AI, software and services. I've found myself drifting away from Apple to Google and now to Amazon devices (Fire HD 10 2017 tablet and Fire TV Stick 2nd gen and soon to be Fire TV Stick 4K).
Interesting. I find myself avoiding Google services if I can. What Google services did you use? You’ve now moved on from them to Amazon?
 
With an infamous assistant and the high price, that's what happens. I know people say it's an amazing speaker (and it probably is), but clearly the market doesn't necessarily want that.

If I could hook it it up to me TV (in lieu of a soundbar), I'd buy one.

You know how Apple is saying 720p is good enough for the iPhone xr (no need for higher resolution)? It is the same with smart speakers, the sound from the Amazon echo is good enough. No need to pay the apple tax to get maybe 1% better sound.
 
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For Apple fans, its the #1 speaker.

Owner and Apple fan. It is the number one speaker for those that I have tried, which is a few Amazon devices. However Siri is beyond stupid. She is so utterly bad that I never ask her anything, just airplay my music.

Perfect example, multiple people in the room asked her to play Elton John's greatest hits. We got lots of "Playing Tracy Chapman's greatest hits" and a few other bands/entertainers but no Elton John.

It has become a joke how stupid Siri is and Apple and its mountains of money is doing nothing about it.
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Interesting. I find myself avoiding Google services if I can. What Google services did you use? You’ve now moved on from them to Amazon?

Try as I might, Google makes stuff that is simply hard to get away from. I use Chrome because it is multi platform and the world tends to code web sites with Chrome in mind. I use Google Search, Youtube and Photos because they simply do not have any competition. I tried, really tried but there other options lack in various ways. I also just went back to Google maps on my iPhone X now that car play supports it. It too is just better compared to Apple maps in so many ways.
 
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You know how Apple is saying 720p is good enough for the iPhone xr (no need for higher resolution)? It is the same with smart speakers, the sound from the Amazon echo is good enough. No need to pay the apple tax to get maybe 1% better sound.

Apple is in the “good enough” business now. No point updating the iPhone or any other product(s). Lol, this explains why the Mac hardware line has been neglected.
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It does when plugged into a system. That's what it's for!

Customization, Apple is against that unless it’s a preset.
 
Shouldn't the system already be equalized, or is there a problem with the output from the Echo?


It's nice to be able to tailor EQ on the fly.

It used to be a thing back when excellent sound was a thing.

Apple changed the culture so the masses didn't care about excellent sound any more.
 
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