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Siri is currently available on Apple TV 4K and Apple TV (4th generation) in these countries, regions, and languages: Australia (English), Canada (English, French), Germany (German), France (French), Mexico (Spanish), Netherlands (Dutch), Norway (Norwegian Bokmål), Japan (Japanese), Spain (Spanish), Sweden (Swedish), UK (English), US (English, Spanish).*
Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205300

Also note: You can use only the languages enabled for the respective regions. I.e. Siri doesn't support English in Germany.

Obviosuly Alexa does. That's where Apple lost it for me. I'd rather take 2 Sonos and connect them to Echos/Alexa than spending it on a 500$ unit that doesn't even have a Zigbee bridge installed. That would have costed Apple <2$ to add.
 
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Will order from best buy since Im an elite member and will get a longer return time..just not sure on the space grey vs the white will have to wait til the 9th when I see it in store..I read that HomePod does NOT work with the macbook pro is that true..I got a 3 month free trial of apple music with my beats headphones so would love to use it with the homepod
Heard from where?

The HomePod is an AirPlay speakers, among other things. AirPlay is supported on Mac.
 
Heard from where?

The HomePod is an AirPlay speakers, among other things. AirPlay is supported on Mac.

I had read something a few days ago about homepod not working with macbook but maybe I misunderstood what I read, it was a post from someone on the homepod thread..thanks for letting me know at least now I know it works
 
Same here. People are way too much of fanboys here. But in reality you’ll probably get better quality speakers for less going with a competitor. But saying that here is blasphemous lol.

You mean like how the people were claiming that Airpods were too expensive when they were announced? And how after one year, the consensus is that they actually provide pretty good value for the utility that they afford?

I see the critics here making the same mistake time and time again. Choosing to engage in a spec war that has no meaning because Apple doesn’t compete based on specs. Choosing to dismiss an Apple product outright, despite knowing next to nothing about it.

And despite years of successful Apple product launches, still they persist.

Let me teach you the moral of the story here:

One underestimates Apple to their own detriment.
 
According to 9to5Mac the Homepod does not support Home Sharing so it won’t play most of my iTunes library (only Apple purchases). That is a major obstacle for me.
 
What you've done here is misinterpreted the Reddit post. He was saying that the HomePod has a version of a feature that appears on $40k speakers. He was not saying that the HomePod sounds as good / better than $40k speakers.
I didn't try to interpret anything, I was just pointing out a post I'd seen that discussed the price point.

I really doubt a $350 product will sound like a $40k product. Unless the latter is a true scam.
 
According to 9to5Mac the Homepod does not support Home Sharing so it won’t play most of my iTunes library (only Apple purchases). That is a major obstacle for me.
Wait, so if I have music on iTunes that was NOT purchased by Apple the HomePod will not play it am I understanding this right?
 
You mean like how the people were claiming that Airpods were too expensive when they were announced? And how after one year, the consensus is that they actually provide pretty good value for the utility that they afford?

I see the critics here making the same mistake time and time again. Choosing to engage in a spec war that has no meaning because Apple doesn’t compete based on specs. Choosing to dismiss an Apple product outright, despite knowing next to nothing about it.

And despite years of successful Apple product launches, still they persist.

Let me teach you the moral of the story here:

One underestimates Apple to their own detriment.

Just cause Tim Cook puts a rock in a box with a nice shiny Apple logo on it. Doesn’t mean you have to buy the rock, and praise it as the most brilliant rock ever! ;)
 
Just cause Tim Cook puts a rock in a box with a nice shiny Apple logo on it. Doesn’t mean you have to buy the rock, and praise it as the most brilliant rock ever! ;)
No, I most certainly don't.

But it never ceases to amuse me how many people are practically falling over themselves to condemn an unreleased product, acting like they already know what the product can (and can't) do, while passing judgement. All without having seen or tested the product in real life.

All the while recycling arguments that have never worked on Apple. Late to the party? Like the iPod and iPhone? Expensive? Like the Apple Watch or the iPad? Where was everyone during the last 5 years of Apple product releases?

And lastly, if you think the HomePod is going to be just another speaker with a smart assistant, without some long-term gameplan, then you really don't understand Apple in the least. If I were reading this somewhere else, I could excuse them for hating on Apple. But here? Is it ironic that some of the strongest arguments in favour of the homepod is actually coming from an audiophile forum on Reddit? Sad perhaps, that the people who claim to the most ardent supporters of Apple are also the ones who evidently understand Apple the least.
 
Just cause Tim Cook puts a rock in a box with a nice shiny Apple logo on it. Doesn’t mean you have to buy the rock, and praise it as the most brilliant rock ever! ;)
He’s more like pointing out HomePod naysayers will be wrong like they are for every other product launch which he provided examples,
 
Wait, so if I have music on iTunes that was NOT purchased by Apple the HomePod will not play it am I understanding this right?
Quote 9to5mac
“If you add music to your home iTunes library that was not acquired through a purchase, HomePod will not be able to access it. It appears HomePod doesn’t have Home Sharing, which would enable that kind of feature”
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/23/home...eam-beats-1-without-apple-music-subscription/

So it does not work like an Apple TV that uses Home Sharing to access all music in an iTunes library.

However you can use Airplay to play to music from the Mac to the Homepod or, I suppose, an ATV with its output set to the Homepod. Seems to defeat the purpose of having a smart speaker!
 
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Apple makes a lot of great products but I’m not so sure about the necesssity of this one. $350? It better sound amazing. However, HomePod is just a weird sounding name.
It will subliminally say it's own name over and over no matter what you're listening to, so if it's the name you don't like, better steer clear of this one.
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Nope. They are talking about anything related to music -- asking it to play a song, artist, asking it what is being played. It's all Apple Music exclusive. No Apple Music then forget about using Siri for music. I understand Siri can do this on Macs and iDevices. Apple is clearly trying to use the HomePod to sell Apple Music subscriptions. That is my biggest probblem with HomePod -- it's an Apple Music accessory more than a Siri/Homekit speaker. Don't believe me -- Apple says so, Rene Ritchie has report similar.

I have no interest using Apple Music or any other streaming service. I rip my music as ALAC.

Also don't tell me what to do ("Or if you really want the product, switch to Apple music its not exactly any different to others. Stop being salty over it.") I'm entitled to my opinions, as are you. If you want to have a conversation and want to raise a point OK. But your bullying tactics make you look small. Remember you are the one that got upset with my TRUE note on Siri capability, not the other way around.
You are completely wrong. HomePod is a Bluetooth speaker. It will play anything you stream to it from your Bluetooth enabled device. NO company is stupid enough to force you to pay $9.99/month to use a device you just bought for $349. You know why? Because no one would buy it. They are obviously pushing Apple Music as the preferred service to use with the HomePod (and who can blame them, wouldn't you do the same if it was your product and service?) but that does NOT mean they won't let you stream anything else to it just like you can stream to your Airpods or any other bluetooth headphones. So good news, you can stream your ALAC music from your phone to the HomePod just fine, as long as it's within bluetooth range.

Speaking of Airpods, they used a similar tactic, only advertising full support for the latest iPhones, iPads, and Macs. Anyone without common sense would jump to the illogical conclusion that "Apple is FORCING us all to buy their latest gear because it doesn't work with any early Apple device or any non-Apple device! We should all be storming their offices!!!" Let me make it clear for you who are clearly having trouble wrapping your head around Business Tactics 101. Apple is going to advertise things in a way that puts their products and services at the forefront. They want you to buy their stuff. They are a business after all. But guess what, my Airpods connect just fine to my Microsoft Surface Pro 3, as well as every single other bluetooth device in the house, and so will the HomePod.
 
It will subliminally say it's own name over and over no matter what you're listening to, so if it's the name you don't like, better steer clear of this one.
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You are completely wrong. HomePod is a Bluetooth speaker. It will play anything you stream to it from your Bluetooth enabled device. NO company is stupid enough to force you to pay $9.99/month to use a device you just bought for $349. You know why? Because no one would buy it. They are obviously pushing Apple Music as the preferred service to use with the HomePod (and who can blame them, wouldn't you do the same if it was your product and service?) but that does NOT mean they won't let you stream anything else to it just like you can stream to your Airpods or any other bluetooth headphones. So good news, you can stream your ALAC music from your phone to the HomePod just fine, as long as it's within bluetooth range.

BUT - the Homepod is unaware of any music in your Mac iTunes library that was not purchased via Apple
 
Quote 9to5mac
“If you add music to your home iTunes library that was not acquired through a purchase, HomePod will not be able to access it. It appears HomePod doesn’t have Home Sharing, which would enable that kind of feature”
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/23/home...eam-beats-1-without-apple-music-subscription/

So it does not work like an Apple TV that uses Home Sharing to access all music in an iTunes library.

However you can use Airplay to play to music from the Mac to the Homepod or, I suppose, an ATV with its output set to the Homepod. Seems to defeat the purpose of having a smart speaker!

With respect to whether or not HomePod can be used to play music in your iTunes library, a couple of additional points:

- in Apple's own description of Apple Music, they include the following statements:
--- "45 million songs. Plus your entire iTunes library. Apple Music allows you to stream our catalog of 45 million songs, along with everything in your iTunes library - no matter where it came from."

- In Apple's description of iTunes, it includes the following statement:
--- "All the music in your personal iTunes library — no matter where it came from — lives right alongside the Apple Music catalog"

- In the Apple iTunes Support section, under "Access your music collection on all of your devices with Apple Music", it includes the following:
--- "What happens to the music you already had on your devices when you join Apple Music?

--- When you first join Apple Music, we identify the songs that are on your iOS device or computer and compare them to the Apple Music catalog.
------- Songs that you bought from the iTunes Store are automatically available in your Apple Music library as long as you use the same Apple ID with Apple Music that you used to buy the music.
------- If we have your version of a song in the Apple Music catalog, we make it instantly available to access on all of your devices for the duration of your membership.
------- If we can’t match certain songs in your collection to songs in the Apple Music catalog, use iTunes on a Mac or PC to upload a copy to iCloud Music Library. After the upload, you can access it on all of your devices.

--- If you have music on your iOS device or computer from sources other than Apple Music or the iTunes Store
------- You can have up to 100,000 songs in your music library. Songs that you buy or bought from the iTunes Store don't count against this limit.
------- Only songs smaller than 200 MB or shorter than 2 hours are added to iCloud Music Library.
------- We create AAC 256Kbps versions of songs that are encoded in ALAC, WAV, or AIFF formats and add the AAC version to iCloud Music Library. Your original music file remains untouched on your Mac or PC.
------- We won't add songs to iCloud Music Library that are encoded in AAC or MP3 formats and don't meet certain quality criteria.
------- You must authorize songs that contain Digital Rights Management (DRM) for playback on your Mac or PC before we can add them to iCloud Music Library."

--- Finally, in Apple Support under "Download iTunes 12.7.3" (posted Jan 23, 2018), it states: "iTunes is now designed to work with HomePod. Use the improved AirPlay menu to easily choose HomePod and control what plays next with your Apple Music subscription."

So iTunes works with Apple Music to give you access to everything you own, and the process is similar to iTunes Match in that a copy of your personal library is created in the iCloud Music Library and you access it from there when you're using any of your devices. And iTunes can stream to the HomePod via AirPlay (current AirPlay, not just forthcoming AirPlay 2).

If you are at home and, for example, using your iMac to stream music to your HomePod, then it will be using iTunes on your computer to stream music to the HomePod. It just seems to me that in this particular circumstance, it wouldn't make sense for music that you have existing on your computers hard drive to be ignored and iTunes would rather use the copy that had been created in iCloud Music for streaming to the HomePod. Would it?

I am still not entirely confident that HomePod can be used to stream music from iTunes, i.e. CDs ripped into a personal iTunes library, without having Apple Music involved, but it sure seems that the capability is there, or should be there, even if it is not explicitly stated in the HomePod descriptions currently provided.
 
Quote 9to5mac
“If you add music to your home iTunes library that was not acquired through a purchase, HomePod will not be able to access it. It appears HomePod doesn’t have Home Sharing, which would enable that kind of feature”
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/23/home...eam-beats-1-without-apple-music-subscription/

Good info. Thanks.

This wouldn't surprise me. I've recently noticed that Siri on my Apple watch will NOT recognize music on my phone that I ripped into iTunes many years ago. (I don't subscribe to Apple Music, BTW.)

Say I'm in the car with my watch and phone: I'll ask Siri on the watch to "Play Blood on the Rooftops". It's a Genesis song ripped from CD years ago. Siri appears to search through my entire library from A-Z (a mix of ripped and iTunes purchases), fails to find "Blood on the Rooftops" and just plays the last song in the A-Z list that came from the iTunes Music Store. So If I ask Watch Siri for any ripped song, I always get this same darn song from the iTunes Music Store. It's maddening. I've cursed at Siri until I realized what was going on.

Now, if I bypass "Watch Siri" and ask "iPhone Siri" to play any ripped song, she finds it and plays it. No problem.

So it looks like HomePod is following the Watch process when it comes to Siri and music. It seems like a ploy to push an Apple Music subscription (no thanks!). In their defense, Apple does say:

Apple said:
System Requirements
  • iPhone 5s or later, iPad Pro, iPad (5th generation), iPad Air or later, iPad mini 2 or later, or iPod touch (6th generation) running iOS 11.2.5 or later
  • 802.11 Wi-Fi Internet access
  • Apple Music subscription for full music functionality2
2 Siri works with Apple Music. Subscription required for Apple Music.
Ref: https://www.apple.com/homepod/specs/

I'll pass for now. $350 is too much for a half-baked device. I have my $650 watch if I want a gimped Siri :(
 
Just as I can get an android phone for ⅓ the price of an iPhone.

Your point being?
Pricing is important, particularly as this is a device that stays at home and is of no use whatsoever when you’re out and about living your beautiful life (unlike iPhones, AirPods, Watches, iPads, MacBooks, etc. that all go with you)

Consider the iPod Hi-Fi from 2006. It sounded great (mine still does) but was hugely overpriced at $349 versus to the competition. Didn’t sell. Quietly discontinued the next year. I bought mine on clearance at 70% off.
 
Pricing is important, particularly as this is a device that stays at home and is of no use whatsoever when you’re out and about living your beautiful life (unlike iPhones, AirPods, iPads, MacBooks, etc. that all go with you)

Consider the iPod Hi-Fi from 2006. It sounded great (mine still does) but was hugely overpriced at $349 versus to the competition. Didn’t sell. Quietly discontinued the next year. I bought mine on clearance at 70% off.
Apple knows how to price. You are not a better judge of what th market pricing should be for HomePod.

Apple is a different company than in 2006, entirely. Way bigger. Way more users. Way better.

$349 today is not what it was in 2006.

HomePod is a much different product.

People spend $300 on mediocre headphones (Beats).

The Economy is booming and the Dow is almost 27k. People have money, particularly for Apple products. We see it year after year.

Other products in the Cook era have been deemed failures at launch like Watch, iPhone X, and AirPods. It’s reasonable to think the HomePod will be successful as other “expensive” products have been.

Again, HomePod is a different product than the other smart speakers. We will see how important quality sound and smart speaker is to Apple customers. Reviews are strong so far.
 
Reviews are strong so far.
Yes, but the reviews were tightly-controlled product demonstrations conducted for journalists, by Apple on Apple’s premises. So of course it was going to sound great.

The acid test is if an ordinary consumer will plunk down $700 for a pair of speakers, take them home, listen to their compressed music and still think they’re worth $700 compared to what they already had at home.
 
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Yes, but the reviews were tightly-controlled product demonstrations conducted for journalists, by Apple on Apple’s premises. So of course it was going to sound great.

The acid test is if an ordinary consumer will plunk down $700 for a pair of speakers, take them home, listen to their compressed music and still think they’re worth $700 compared to what they already had at home.
Most people listen to music through EarPods and maybe some cheap Bluetooth speaker. This is going to sound amazing to the average customer.

People think Bose and Beats sound good...

You don’t have to buy 2 HomePods.
 
As the HomePod was delayed, I wonder if this is the cause of such availability. It has been available to order for over a day and it still available for launch day. This could be either due to lack of interest, or the long delay which meant they could build an awful lot in that time (assuming it was a software related delay).
Now HomePod is almost here, the Siri team must be doing overtime. It is okay for iOS devices with a screen, but for just a speaker I am not so sure to be honest.
 
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