HomePod Now Available to Order in United States, Australia, and United Kingdom

[iPhonefan200]

Nope. They are talking about anything related to music -- asking it to play a song, artist, asking it what is being played. It's all Apple Music exclusive. No Apple Music then forget about using Siri for music. I understand Siri can do this on Macs and iDevices. Apple is clearly trying to use the HomePod to sell Apple Music subscriptions. That is my biggest probblem with HomePod -- it's an Apple Music accessory more than a Siri/Homekit speaker. Don't believe me -- Apple says so, Rene Ritchie has report similar.

I have no interest using Apple Music or any other streaming service. I rip my music as ALAC.

Also don't tell me what to do ("Or if you really want the product, switch to Apple music its not exactly any different to others. Stop being salty over it.") I'm entitled to my opinions, as are you. If you want to have a conversation and want to raise a point OK. But your bullying tactics make you look small. Remember you are the one that got upset with my TRUE note on Siri capability, not the other way around.

Bullying? I simply told you to just switch to Apple Music if thats what stopping you, if you don't stream music off a service thats fine, your getting offended by a suggestion of a simple Solution.

I dont know how your read 'Siri works with Apple Music, Apple Music Subscription Required' as Siri only works with apple music. It means Siri works with apple music but not without a subscription to the service. But it doesn't mean Siri doesn't excluded from any functionality without a subscription. Don't even know why im bothering , your clearly just on here to bitch and moan about Apple and had no interest in the product to begin with, go somewhere else and do that.

 

[kruegdude]

Even though HomePod uses similar (but obviously cost-reduced) signal processing technology and techniques as this speaker, audiophile sites are reporting HomePod comes up woefully short in comparison, from conducting a recent series of blind test listening evaluations.

Bummed. Apple is therefore doomed.

I didn’t think any site had a full review out. Care to share some links?

 

[citysnaps]

It was on here. Please share those audiophile site links and I'll try to find a link to that one.

I don't have any links.

But since you actually saw that posted here, I'd sure like to see what you're referring to in your post: "I've already seen a guy write that this speaker is better than a $40K one."

 

[iPhonefan200]

1. "...Stop being salty about it." = "S.T.F.U.". Bullying tactic.

2. Sorry. I don't know why it's so hard for your to understand Apple is specifically saying, reviews, and tech writers confirm, Siri for music ONLY works with Apple Music. It's not my interpretation.

Example from makeusof.com: (bolded for emphasis).

Because of AirPlay 2, you’ll almost certainly be able to listen to other music streaming services on HomePod. However, Siri will only work with Apple Music, at least at the beginning.

And that means it only works with apple music and not any other streaming service????????? as in Siri won't stream your Spotify, did you forget to read the top part of what you copied, that sentence follows it? they won't test it working with iCloud Libary because it won't be connected to one in the testing environment. I bet if you go to Apple Support right now they will tell you it works with iCloud Music Library. Stop interpreting things to fit your opinion and read them as their correct objective truth.

Can somebody help me here, this is mind numbing

 

[kruegdude]

Conditioned by my iPhone experiences, I determined to get up at 3AM to do a fast preorder! But, I slept through it. OMG! I said to myself in the morning, it's 9AM! Quick I got online. Any left? Plenty. Ordered for first day pickup. Hmm.

It wasn't available to order at 3am. I think it’s only been available for about 2 hrs now.
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1. "...Stop being salty about it." = "S.T.F.U.". Bullying tactic.

2. Sorry. I don't know why it's so hard for your to understand Apple is specifically saying, reviews, and tech writers confirm, Siri for music ONLY works with Apple Music. It's not my interpretation.

Example from makeusof.com: (bolded for emphasis).

"Because of AirPlay 2, you’ll almost certainly be able to listen to other music streaming services on HomePod. However, Siri will only work with Apple Music, at least at the beginning."

I don’t even know what being salty means. Do you?

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

I don't have any links.

But since you actually saw that posted here, I'd sure like to see what you're referring to in your post: "I've already seen a guy write that this speaker is better than a $40K one."

You wrote that you did. Did you see such a review and just can't remember where you saw it? And I'm not questioning your credibility- just wanting to see any truly objective reviews if there are any yet.

I am trying to locate that reference. I called the guy out on it in the very same thread and he may have edited it. But I'm still looking. I definitely saw it here.

 

[citysnaps]

You wrote that you did. Did you see such a review and just can't remember where you saw it? And I'm not questioning your credibility- just wanting to see any truly objective reviews if there are any yet.

I am trying to locate that reference. I called the guy out on it in the very same thread and he may have edited it. But I'm still looking. I definitely saw it here.

"I called the guy out on it in the very same thread and he may have edited it."

OK. Just post a link to where you called him out on it.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

And that means it only works with apple music and not any other streaming service????????? as in Siri won't stream your Spotify, did you forget to read the top part of what you copied, that sentence follows it? they won't test it working with iCloud Libary because it won't be connected to one in the testing environment. I bet if you go to Apple Support right now they will tell you it works with iCloud Music Library. Stop interpreting things to fit your opinion and read them as their correct objective truth.

Can somebody help me here, this is mind numbing

I tell you what PROVE me wrong. I'd be overjoyed to hear I could tell HomePod to play something via my Mac, not Apple Music. Please prove me wrong. Otherwise I'm going to go with what Apple and known Apple reviewers are saying which is what I'm repeating: Siri only works with Apple Music.

Again, put your money where your mouth is and show me a review where Siri played music from a Mac or iDevice. Otherwise you have nothing but your own imagination. Why would Apple want say it "only works with Apple Music," if saying that would reduce sales of HomePod? No, Apple wants to sell as many HomePods as possible and you don't do that by announcing before hand specific limitations that don't exist.
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I don’t even know what being salty means. Do you?

In the context the user wrote it, it means angry, bitter. It can also mean unrefined, as in "salty humor." And of course there is the reference to taste.

 

[iPhonefan200]

It wasn't available to order at 3am. I think it’s only been available for about 2 hrs now.
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I don’t even know what being salty means. Do you?

it literally means stop being bitter about something online because it doesn't work for u. i cant see how that is bullying

I tell you what PROVE me wrong. I'd be overjoyed to hear I could tell HomePod to play something via my Mac, not Apple Music. Please prove me wrong. Otherwise I'm going to go with what Apple and known Apple reviewers are saying which is what I'm repeating: Siri only works with Apple Music.

Again, put your money where your mouth is and show me a review where Siri played music from a Mac or iDevice. Otherwise you have nothing but your own imagination. Why would Apple want say it "only works with Apple Music," if saying that would reduce sales of HomePod? No, Apple wants to sell as many HomePods as possible and you don't do that by announcing before hand specific limitations that don't exist.

Are you on a Psych Ward?????? here is what i said:

if you put music in your iCloud Music Library and go 'Hey Siri, play .... from my iCloud Library' i Guarantee you it will, just like it does right now on any device. i made no claim it will play from your mac storage.

And Apple said ' Siri works with Apple Music, Apple Music Required' not "Only works with Apple Music' like your trying to claim now,even go back you said this yourself.

As for Articles, yes Siri only works with Apple Music, not any other streaming service, however it will work with your iTunes library Purchases without Apple music (how do you explain that with your 'evidence' ?) and it will work with Airplay and i am certain iCloud Music Library

i mean the fact i just remembered Apple saying it works with purchases has just debunked everything your saying, i may as well stop here

 

[imola.zhp]

Want one but I'm not sure if its just because I'm brainwashed to want everything Apple.

Making myself wait for some independent (youtube) reviews and comparisons.

We have a decent soundbar setup for music, and our mobile devices handle any "hey siri" homekit demands so I'm not really sure how this would fit in our household. I guess this means we could play music through it without the TV on which was an annoying change from ATV3 to ATV4 (loss of the audio jack); but then that renders the decent soundbar somewhat useless, or limits it to just TV watching. So it could save the TV(s) and save electricity I guess. But if and when the TV's go out it would be a good excuse to upgrade to 4K which neither of them currently are.

 

[kildraik]

It looks like it’s well past time for the shipping times to have slipped. Gone are the days that staying up until the wee hours of the night is necessary to grab newly released product!

Folks are trying to sell them for $659 on eBay. What a joke!

 

[MistrSynistr]

I can't believe they kept this price point. lol.

 

[MistrSynistr]

Nope. This is very limited. Can't even be a BT speaker. Can't use as a speaker from Mac. Apple TV can't use it. Can't be turned into a sound system with more of them. The integration kind of blows.

This is basically apple music on a speaker with a bit of siri thrown in...tied to one icloud acct so screw the rest of the household.

Wait, what? Can you seriously not use this as a surround sound for Apple TV?

 

[CPTmom2wp]

Really? Here you go. https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2017/11/15/airplay-2-details-availability/amp/

Think that about sums it up for ya.

And coming soon as in iOS 11.3 in fact just released yesterday in PUBLIC beta. That’s pretty soon. Also in fact 11.2.5 already has HomePod support.

"Apple TV – and Apple TV 4K-connected speakers will also be AirPlay 2 speakers when the feature launches" I am assuming that my SONOS surround sound speakers for my big screen TV will then also be connected to HomePod and I won't need to replace the Sonos speakers.

 

[iPhonefan200]

Fake news.

S.T.F.U is not what he said. He said “Stop being salty about it”.

Come out of your safe space and be capable of having a conversation in the real world.

i honestly was trying to explain how they could circumvent the whole won't play from my mac with Siri by using iCloud Music Library and i was responded with total rampaging and Social Justice Warrior like intimidation and somehow I'm a bully?

I have Bonus tracks that only come on hard copies of Albums on my iCloud Music Library and Siri plays them whenever i ask, i simply tried to say it HomePod will do this as well lol and somehow they're convinced you need Apple Music to do that

 

[CPTmom2wp]

Ordered 12. One for each room in my mansion. At $350 per pop you’d be silly not to buy this. Over spending money on frivolous things is one of my most enjoyable passions.

But Wait!........don't you need to purchase 24 so that you can have stereo in your mansion?!?!....well, maybe the bathrooms don't need stereo but can be used to order toilet paper......:0))

 

[Bryan Bowler]

i honestly was trying to explain how they could circumvent the whole won't play from my mac with Siri by using iCloud Music Library and i was responded with total rampaging and Social Justice Warrior like intimidation and somehow I'm a bully?

Totally agree! I’m amazed at how incapable some people are at having a conversation nowadays.

 

[CPTmom2wp]

True but reviews say it doesn't sound as good (which matters to me)... one gets what one pays for, it has always been thus.

I have had Sonos for over 3 years now; surround sound for my 75" TV and love it. However, I also want the verbal functionality of using SIRI for my HomeKit within the Apple ecosystem. At the risk of repeating myself;
from 9-5 MAC ....."Apple TV – and Apple TV 4K-connected speakers will also be AirPlay 2 speakers when the feature launches" would indicate that my Sonos speakers will continue to work in the Apple ecosystem....which they do not do now.

 

[iPhonefan200]

I can't believe they kept this price point. lol.

After Iphone X Im stunned US and UK are different prices
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It looks like it’s well past time for the shipping times to have slipped. Gone are the days that staying up until the wee hours of the night is necessary to grab newly released product!

Folks are trying to sell them for $659 on eBay. What a joke!

Uk still going for release day shipment! must have overstocked us lol

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Fake news.

S.T.F.U is not what he said. He said “Stop being salty about it”.

Come out of your safe space and be capable of having a conversation in the real world.

Sorry, but I'm not a snowflake. He didn't melt me, I just noted OP's faux pas in good debate. What he said was the equivalent of saying "shut up," yes. I was the one trying to have a conversation. He responded to a post I made to someone else, not him, I responded to him with other facts, he responded, ending with that bit. I'm happy to be refuted. He told me to stop talking and go away rather than tell me where I was wrong. You have your facts backwards here.

 

[gijoeinla]

"Apple TV – and Apple TV 4K-connected speakers will also be AirPlay 2 speakers when the feature launches" I am assuming that my SONOS surround sound speakers for my big screen TV will then also be connected to HomePod and I won't need to replace the Sonos speakers.

I don’t believe Sonos will work at launch

 

[CPTmom2wp]

I throughly agree that that is the very best way. I suppose I just have more patience at this point. I can wait for some objective reviews to answer some open-ended-but-key questions. Then, I can visit a local Apple store and "try one out" before I buy. And if it gets through both of those "filters", then I move on with that ultimate, best test.

BUT, the 14-day return policy sure makes it easy to not wait to do either for those filled with high enthusiasm right now.

I wonder if I might suggest that it can sound very different in your home. Even if something sounds great in the Apple Store; Best Buy; etc.,etc. the sound will vary greatly depending on flooring, ceiling height, furnishings, and window dimensions, among other things. It probably is best to purchase one and try it out in your home to determine whether or not it meets your personal audio preferences (also highly individual).

 

[iPhonefan200]

Sorry, but I'm not a snowflake. He didn't melt me, I just noted OP's faux pas in good debate. What he said was the equivalent of saying "shut up," yes. I was the one trying to have a conversation. He responded to a post I made to someone else, not him, with that bit. I'm happy to be refuted. He told me to stop talking and go away rather than tell me where I was wrong. You have your facts backwards here.

I didn't tell you to go away? i told you to upload to iCloud Music Library and then you began coming down on me interpreting things wrong to fit your narrative and in good discussion i corrected you so if you really like this speaker, there is a solution that will work for you. Then you rampaged when i said talk to Apple Support if you don't believe me. im not being negative, i come on here to help people if i know a solution they do not

 

[cwazytech]

#HatersGottaHate #HatersGonnaHate

While I understand why someone wouldn't want a Homepod, I'll never understand why people gotta hate on other people's interest.

"I hate what you like and you must know it."

Why bother clicking on the link to this forum if you know it doesn't appeal to your interest?

Anyway, I don't have a smart speaker and I am knee deep in an Apple ecosystem so I'm in (Pre-Ordered). Looking forward to what the reviews keep referring to as great sound. I also like that it can act as a Hub for my homekit devices. Siri may be lacking in capabilities, but thats ok. I'm sure Apple will improve Siri as the need for it to grows.

 

[DocMultimedia]

You wrote that you did. Did you see such a review and just can't remember where you saw it? And I'm not questioning your credibility- just wanting to see any truly objective reviews if there are any yet.

I am trying to locate that reference. I called the guy out on it in the very same thread and he may have edited it. But I'm still looking. I definitely saw it here.

The discussion I saw about the really expensive speaker comparison, was from The Loop based on a reddit thread.

http://www.loopinsight.com/2018/01/24/on-homepod-and-audio-quality/