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This is hilarious. People are worried about audio quality on a Homepod, and it doesn't even have an EQ. I still can't believe they removed it. Homepod sounds awful in large (flat) and small (boomy) rooms.
 
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It’s interesting Apple is promoting just Dolby atoms, Spatial Audio on Apple Music. Lossless is just an added bonus if you have the right hardware.
 
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Sonos is wireless. Sonos supports lossless audio. Bluetooth cannot support lossless, but anything that operates on Wifi should be able to handle the bitrate with no problem, unless your wireless router is REALLY old. (Like Wireless B old).

The Homepods should absolutely be able to support lossless audio, and the fact that they don't is a huge miss if true.
That’s kinda what I thought. Like your computer can get lossless right. If
The HomePod may be great and all, but it was never a true Hi-Fi system. There's no use streaming lossless unless your speakers can benefit from it. Otherwise the only change is how much data is used while streaming. If you want to listen to and appreciate lossless audio, you need either a high end set of speakers (Klipsch, Pioneer, AudioEngine, come to mind) with a receiver, or else high-end headphones with a *wired* connection to a quality DAC.

Streaming lossless has always been like this, it's nothing new. Apple just doesn't really have any Hi-Fi products. They've targeted the convenience market over the audiophile market up till now. Audiophiles who already have Hi-Fi systems will benefit from Apple Music lossless, but for anyone else the overhead for enjoying lossless hasn't changed.

Dolby Atmos and Spatial Audio will be the big difference for the average user.
No wonder no one bought the HomePod. I really thought Apple was considering that hifi and that’s how they justified the price.
 
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The irony here is that the best Apple hardware to take advantage of lossless is the one that they discontinued. HomePod.

I‘ve been streaming lossless to my HomePods from Deezer for a few weeks now and they really are great speakers.
Glad Apple Music has upped its game to catch up with Deezer and Qobuz when it comes to audio quality but why would they hobble Homepod’s ability to do lossless when Deezer, Tidal and others have no problem doing so?!
 
Any wired pair of headphones can play high resolution audio, it’s an analog device. The bottleneck would be the drivers on the $20 headphones, but there’s no limitation or anything preventing a wired cable from carrying high res music.
i'd be betting some decent larger Bluetooth speakers sound better than $20 wired ones. :)

All the people getting so caught up in this probably using their 5.1 384kbs surround systems and thinking how good their movies sound ;)

it's a free upgrade that will benefit some people.
take it at that.
 
I can see why they didn’t include this in the keynote last month. It’s the most underwhelming announcement from Apple.

it’s like their departments aren’t talking to each other and everyone at Apple was caught by surprise as well.
 
Perhaps they didn’t list the OG HomePod as being lossless capable, not because it can’t, but simply because it’s discontinued and there’s no reason to tout the capabilities of a device they no longer market??
 
This really makes no sense.

I have tons of CDs converted to Apple Lossless in iTunes and all of them play just fine with Homepod.

Homepod was supposed to support ALAC, and it does.
No one ever suggested that the Homepod converts any ALAC iTunes content to AAC on the fly.

But I can try to do an A-B test with Homepod to see if my ALAC iTunes content sounds different to an AAC converted version. To double-check whether Homepod playing iTunes ALAC content is in fact internally merely AAC content...
 
This really makes no sense.

I have tons of CDs converted to Apple Lossless in iTunes and all of them play just fine with Homepod.

Homepod was supposed to support ALAC, and it does.
No one ever suggested that the Homepod converts any ALAC iTunes content to AAC on the fly.

But I can try to do an A-B test with Homepod to see if my ALAC iTunes content sounds different to an AAC converted version. To double-check whether Homepod playing iTunes ALAC content is in fact internally merely AAC content...

Apple Lossless includes bitrates much higher than CD quality that the DAC in the HomePod apparently does not support is my guess.

sound very good. still not hifi.
I'd disagree. Lots of hi-fi enthusiasts and reviewers disagree with you on that assessment.
 
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Are you sure? Both HomePod and HomePod mini already support Apple Lossless and FLAC, so what is the reason you are saying they won't support Apple Lossless Music? A reference in one footnote? I agree it is not clear, but if they support lossless and they are airplay 2 which supports it, I just don't think there is enough information to draw your conclusion with anymore than a maybe
 
Apple Lossless includes bitrates much higher than CD quality that the DAC in the HomePod apparently does not support is my guess.

I could understand that Homepod does not support Hi-Resolution Lossless.

But Apple reportedly lets the user choose to select "Lossless" or "Hi-Resolution Lossless". The former should be supported by Homepod. There is no reason other than software not being written properly.
Or Homepod never actually supported ALAC from the get go, only on paper but internally converted it to AAC always...

Hmmm...
 
I don’t see how with there proprietary wireless connection, AirPlay wifi, and memory onboard their audio products like the HomePod with 16gb can’t have an acceptable buffer for this type of audio file codec. Airplay 2.0 maybe.
HomePod's use Airplay2 and airplay2 uses a lossless codec so maybe someone has no idea what they are talking about. It is possible that they aren't supporting Audio quality above CD audio simply because they may have chosen not to include those codec's. But lossless 16/44 I'm betting will be supported.
we will see!
 
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