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I am not baffled. As I mentioned earlier this is the MAGA playbook. Identify hot button cultural issues and get people spun up and focused on those to the exclusion of what is really important and what is really going on. I can't count the times that a MAGA coworker would join us at lunch and just be going off about some supposed silly politically correct overreach somewhere... simply because MAGA media relentlessly and continuously pump that out to them as propaganda.

This over indexing on trans is baffling to me. The data I can find on this shows a 1-2% rate that hasn't fluctuated of the clinically diagnosed and treated cases (one reference that refers to it as "identifying", but the others I've seen corroborate it, and I'd infer from that the clinically diagnosed cases are even lower than 2%).
 
I finally got my hyper MAGA brother to admit "this isn't really that big of an issue"..

He's moved on to trashing Zelensky for "starting the war with Russia"
Well at least he should blame, not blame, blame, not blame, blame Ukraine as agressor. Then he would be a proper Trump supporter…changing viewpoints like a yoyoy.
Maybe ask him, what he saw happening in Ukraine on February 24 2022? The rest of the world saw Russian tanks/ military going into Ukraine.
Edit: he probably knows and means the “challenging attitude” of Ukraine (desire to become part of NATO and hoping for more cooperation with western countries)?
 
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He's moved on to trashing Zelensky for "starting the war with Russia"
Sounds about right.

If only Zelensky had dressed appropriately when meeting with the President.

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I am not baffled. As I mentioned earlier this is the MAGA playbook. Identify hot button cultural issues and get people spun up and focused on those to the exclusion of what is really important and what is really going on. I can't count the times that a MAGA coworker would join us at lunch and just be going off about some supposed silly politically correct overreach somewhere... simply because MAGA media relentlessly and continuously pump that out to them as propaganda.
Can you argue against it? Do you? Or are you just too fed up with all nonsense and keep quiet?
 
This is not only false, it’s bordering on an outright lie about Biden. The last president to leave office in peacetime with a surplus was bill clinton. Since then we have been racking up debt with every single presidency after that, including Biden and trumps first term. The pandemic had something to do with it but they were headed for a deficit during their term no matter what.
Where did I say Biden did not rack up debt? I said Trump was a huge deficit spender. I made this point because people are pretending that he is doing this crazy tariff stuff because he cares about the debt or fiscal responsibility. Which is a joke!
 
Trump is way smarter than John Oliver. lol
John Oliver can perfectly explain why Trump was rude for confronting a journalist with a statement like „your question is incredibly stupid and so are you“, while Trump can’t and won’t.
This is a glorified man child, people flock around him for influence and he lets them have it for every dollar they donate to him, from presidential pardons to other personal favors done in his name he then can not recall in any detail.
Stop lying to yourself, this is an old, corrupted man.
 
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Not Apple related but we just had on one of those bogus Trump propaganda commercials touting his "everything" energy policy that includes fossil, nuclear, solar and wind. Then, LOL, you remember seeing this just yesterday and realize that he is lying again. That's what he does. That's ALL he does.

 
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If you’re supporting Trump then you should know all about hate.
I didn’t say anything about supporting him, but you’re obviously on a tear here. No need to get angry or spread hate towards me. Best wishes and I hope you feel better soon.
 
No blinders here. It amazes me how the left side of the political spectrum claims to be hate-free, but only if you are exactly like them. Otherwise, the hate is rampant. Just look at here and what MacRumors is becoming.
Deflection. And the assumption that if you’re against the Trump regime you must be leftist. No, all you have to be to be against Trump and his regime is a rationale thinking person regardless of what side of the political centre you are. Note there are a lot of people on the right also against him. And more and more voices are rising of those who regret voting for him.
 
Deflection. And the assumption that if you’re against the Trump regime you must be leftist. No, all you have to be to be against Trump and his regime is a rationale thinking person regardless of what side of the political centre you are. Note there are a lot of people on the right also against him. And more and more voices are rising of those who regret voting for him.
Cool beans.
 
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DEI for one example.
1. That's not necessarily not America first. American DEI hires instead of non US is still America first.
2. Who would you say is the biggest beneficiary of DEI historically? Here's a clue, it's NOT a minority.
 
China will be the toughest to bring to the table but it will happen. They need us more than we need them as they export 5 times more to us. In the end, this was the right move for the U.S. as we've been taken advantage of for decades and it's time to have that come to a halt.
Do you buy this rhetoric? You could also say that the US is 5x more dependent on China because it needs those things it imports.
We have to realise that with the system China has, it can plan a lot longer than democracies with 4 year terms.
 
Trump is way smarter than John Oliver. lol
Any person who‘s brain wasn’t diluted by US media and has average empathy skills understands that this is not true.
Yes, we are doing this so we stay the leader. I'll all happen.
Once again, the leader in what?
Going to be the best thing we've done in decades.
It’s not even the best thing done in the last 48 months.
Nobody serious would disagree that the US needs to put their trade policies in check, but Trump found the perhaps single worst way to go about it.
Exciting times really.
True. It’s exciting to look at and listen to all the people that were whining under Biden about the economy and censorship now be completely fine with the word „woman“ be removed from official government documentation and adopt the standpoint that „you don’t lose anything when you lose money“. Seriously. Had Biden or OBAMA done NOTHING controversial but these 2 things your folks would still not let anyone hear the end of it.
And if they had given the privat person that single handedly donated the most amount of money to them a government institution where they can declare this and that as fact without any broader understanding of what they are doing and basically zero accountability, while cutting veterans healthcare and firing random people without any due process, just to then go on about how „they don’t need that person in government, they just like them personally“, people would have lost it, rightfully so.
How can you be so compliant with the obvious hypocrisy that’s taking place?

iTs nOt bAD wHeN mY SiDe dOeS iT. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

@macpro2000 you’ve put yourself on the sidelines with these remarks, my god, wake up!
 
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China will be the toughest to bring to the table but it will happen. They need us more than we need them as they export 5 times more to us. In the end, this was the right move for the U.S. as we've been taken advantage of for decades and it's time to have that come to a halt.
Ohh ok, as if US hasn’t been taking advantage of other nations too, such as allowing Apple to become so reliant on China in the first place rather than letting Apple invest in infrastructure in the US over decades so that we at least have any semblance of hope of domestic production. But nope. Good luck trying to coerce other countries to give up their advantages just to “gain access to US market”, which btw, doesn’t have as many rich customers as you’d thought.
 
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This is all not okay. We are living in a literal banana republic. The dumbest timeline ever.
And the very same timeline where US used to be able to manufacture all sorts of things, even, surprise, semiconductor products, onshore, and in huge scale. Wonder where those jobs went after 1990.
 
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