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I've heard others say that the resolution is a bit like looking at 720p monitors (~@7:30) with the meta quest pro. And the passthrough is not quite good enough to like read papers or your phone screen (@4:30).

The displays are fine. They are not Mac quality but not 720 either. Meta
I wish we could plug a Thunderbolt/USB-C cable from the Vision Pro into a Mac to have zero delay (latency) and an unlimited power supply. Since you will always have that cable attached to the VP, why not plug it into a Mac and benefit from it?
Well, We know it can power by USB C so who knows what will come.
 
Same here. I thought it would just be another stupid headset until I watched the keynote. I had planned on getting a new MacBook Pro at the end of the year. After seeing this, I am now considering a Mac Studio Ultra and a Vision Pro. If you start to look at the Vision Pro as a new type of display, this gets a lot more interesting. Although, I suspect the 2nd or 3rd version will be radically better.
Absolutely and if you can maintain a high enough bandwidth connection between VP and MS, you're free to roam around your workspace, which might be a home office or home. This creates lots of options for accessing very high power computing without being completely tethered to a desk.
 


Apple Vision Pro is a standalone hardware device that has its own processors and does not require a connection to a Mac or an iPhone to operate, but it is able to interface with other Apple devices. With the Mac, for example, the Vision Pro can serve as a Mac display.

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Apple says that there's a Mac Virtual Display feature that works wirelessly with the Mac. You can bring your Mac's display into Vision Pro and "place it anywhere in space." You can see each of your Mac apps individually, arranging them in a way that works for you.

According to Apple, the Vision Pro is meant to serve as a "private, portable 4K display" when used with a Mac. Connecting is as simple as looking at a compatible Mac while wearing the Apple Vision headset.

apple-vision-pro-mac-desktop.jpg

You can connect Mac accessories to the Vision Pro, including the Magic Keyboard and the Magic Trackpad for input purposes. Attaching Bluetooth accessories allows for a typical Mac workflow to continue to be used, with the display replaced by Vision Pro.

Vision Pro is set to launch in early 2024, so we won't know more about how it functions as an actual Mac display replacement until closer to that date. The headset is priced starting at $3,499.

Article Link: How Apple Vision Pro Works With the Mac

Really hope that they add support for TB/USB-C input from *any* device by the time it launches...

For $3500, I really need more flexibility than wirelessly mirroring a recent Mac display?

All these sit-down/standing Office/Zoom use demos seem... out of touch? Who in their right minds is dropping $3500 to have Office software strapped to their heads? Really? Who wants to be TRAPPED inside a Zoom call strapped to their faces, rather than being able to mute the mic and walk away to use the facilities or leave earshot to scream/swear about how this could have been an email in frustration? Never mind drop $3500 for the privilege of being trapped in those god awful meetings?

I can almost see/understand photo/video editing use, but I wonder if that's going to be problematic with eye-strain/fatigue, etc? And, will that add enough to the editing experience to justify the cost? At that point, you're using a $3500 display added to a $6999 Mac in your editing space? Is it going to offer enough to that use case to justify the expense?

But, using the VisionPro for AR/VR education/training (medical, automotive, etc) or hand/eye/reaction training exercises, or other fitness applications? Where were those demos? Something groundbreaking? Insanely Great even? Like playing soccer in AR/VR with players from teams featured on AppleTV+? Or taking turns with top pit crew members from a motorsports team with their training exercises? (lots of hand/eye, repetition, running, then fine motorskills then running then fine inputs...)

But, until those are available, until there's an insanely great real killer app for this thing, I want to use it with ALL the hardware I already own, especially the Racing/Flight sim I built? Eliminating the triple 27" monitor setup from the space that's honestly obnoxiously way too small for it? That would be a real world value right now? At least until Apple or a third party comes up with something insanely great to justify dropping even $1999 for this thing?

Shrug.
 
The biggest functional miss IMO is a video out, it would be great to use this as a standalone computer when I get tired of lugging it around on my head. Of course this completely goes against Apple's strategy of convincing consumers to purchase multiple devices so it would never happen, but one can dream.
 
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Apple Vision Pro is a standalone hardware device that has its own processors and does not require a connection to a Mac or an iPhone to operate, but it is able to interface with other Apple devices. With the Mac, for example, the Vision Pro can serve as a Mac display.

apple-vision-pro-mac.jpg

Apple says that there's a Mac Virtual Display feature that works wirelessly with the Mac. You can bring your Mac's display into Vision Pro and "place it anywhere in space." You can see each of your Mac apps individually, arranging them in a way that works for you.

According to Apple, the Vision Pro is meant to serve as a "private, portable 4K display" when used with a Mac. Connecting is as simple as looking at a compatible Mac while wearing the Apple Vision headset.

apple-vision-pro-mac-desktop.jpg

You can connect Mac accessories to the Vision Pro, including the Magic Keyboard and the Magic Trackpad for input purposes. Attaching Bluetooth accessories allows for a typical Mac workflow to continue to be used, with the display replaced by Vision Pro.

Vision Pro is set to launch in early 2024, so we won't know more about how it functions as an actual Mac display replacement until closer to that date. The headset is priced starting at $3,499.

Article Link: How Apple Vision Pro Works With the Mac
any idea what aspect of this is adding the most weight?



-3D Glass?

-Cooling?

- Cameras (?)

-??
 
I think we'll need to see how this plays out.

Weight and cords come to mind as potential irritants.

The device will have added weight to your head. Sit back in a chair, sure, but there will be weight on the front of your head that you will need to resist with your neck. Maybe it's good to lean back fully to get any added stress off your neck.

There's also a cord to a battery, and at best two hours battery life. There most certainly will be battery concerns at some point needing to plug in with a cord hanging off your chair/bed charged in to a wall.
Yeah that's all true. I don't think having to plug in an AC cord is big deal if you're stationery anyway. The weight might really create an issue, esp if it's not balanced … ie more weight on the face than the rest of the head, like a helmet. Though if one could recline back on a headrest it might be fine.
 
This feature doesn’t even work reliably when sending a display to my iPad Pro. Why would this be any better? All this crap is still so glitchy.

Would be much more useful with multiple displays.

Can this work with a Mac Mini and a power cable only?

Does the eye tracking with the finger pinch to click input work with the Mac or do you have to use BT devices?
 
As I understand it, this is effectively just a screen share. What would be very powerful is the ability to create multiple desktops on the Mac and left each into VisionPro. My Mac would then effectively be able to access enormous screen area, rather than one copy of its screen, albeit a large scale version.
They should abandon the concept of a desktop entirely and let every window be placed separately anywhere. That would probably require significant changes in macOS, though.
 
Why not allow a wired, USB-C connection straight to the Mac?
Because this is the way other headsets work. Apple's devices need to be "different". Apple believes that wireless devices need always to stay wireless regardless of anything. Have you forgotten the notorious Magic Mouse charging method?
 
Why not allow a wired, USB-C connection straight to the Mac?
Probably bandwidth. We’re talking two 4k displays, for one thing. While I think Thunderbolt 3 is supposed to be able to drive two 4k displays, there may still be bandwidth limitations if these are high refresh rate displays (which they probably are).
 
Why not allow a wired, USB-C connection straight to the Mac?
Most likely because of Apple's belief that wireless devices should stay wireless regardless of anything. Do you remember that you can't use the Magic Mouse while it's being charged? Same reason.
 
The vision pro has amazing tech but I do think it’s a missed opportunity by apple. Many of you think this will be an all in one device that will replace your mac and monitors. Unfortunately this is not the case.

Apple made no mention of VP running mac apps. They specifically said IOS apps, my guess is it’s running a modified version of IOS. Which makes sense since ios already has the AR apps and the SDK and apis to build ar apps easily.

Apple also clearly showed you need a mac to run mac apps.

To me its a missed opportunity since this would have been the ultimate all in one machine. Replace a mac studio and 3 4k monitors I could justify the price.

But all this is is a fancy virtual monitor. Which doesn’t justify the 3500.

I also got the impressive from their website it can only do one screen :(
 
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The vision pro has amazing tech but I do think it’s a missed opportunity by apple. Many of you think this will be an all in one device that will replace your mac and monitors. Unfortunately this is not the case.

Apple made no mention of VP running mac apps. They specifically said IOS apps, my guess is it’s running a modified version of IOS. Which makes sense since ios already has the AR apps and the SDK and apis to build ar apps easily.

Apple also clearly showed you need a mac to run mac apps.

To me its a missed opportunity since this would have been the ultimate all in one machine. Replace a mac studio and 3 4k monitors I could justify the price.

But all this is is a fancy virtual monitor. Which doesn’t justify the 3500.

I also got the impressive from their website it can only do one screen :(
You will have to wait for vision pro 2 and then they will release multiple screens 😂
 
Apple also clearly showed you need a mac to run mac apps.
I did wonder for a moment why didn’t they show it replicating an iPad screen, but then realized it can just run the app the same way an iPad would, no need to replicate it. While everything Apple makes is a fork of macOS, everything BUT macOS is using the iOS/iPad fork. It remains to be seen how far Apple wants to bring the Mac into the future. My guess is not very far, but check back in 5 years.
 
If the screens are mirrored, who cares?
I care if they are running different programs that do different things when I type commands at them on the virtual keyboard.
The person networked into one of them cares.
The person with files on a disk attached to one of them cares.
The person sitting in front of one of them cares.
 
Instead of having multiple virtual monitors, what you really want is place app windows arbitrary in space. Only the window being looked at needs to be rendered at (max.) 4K. The other windows that are not in focus can be rendered at mich lower resolution and frame rate. There most definitely will be a version of Stage Manager that works seamlessly with Vision Pro that provides this. Or maybe a 3rd party app will provide this. It‘s so obvious that it’s hard to imagine this not being part of the v1 product.
 


Apple Vision Pro is a standalone hardware device that has its own processors and does not require a connection to a Mac or an iPhone to operate, but it is able to interface with other Apple devices. With the Mac, for example, the Vision Pro can serve as a Mac display.

apple-vision-pro-mac.jpg

Apple says that there's a Mac Virtual Display feature that works wirelessly with the Mac. You can bring your Mac's display into Vision Pro and "place it anywhere in space." You can see each of your Mac apps individually, arranging them in a way that works for you.

According to Apple, the Vision Pro is meant to serve as a "private, portable 4K display" when used with a Mac. Connecting is as simple as looking at a compatible Mac while wearing the Apple Vision headset.

apple-vision-pro-mac-desktop.jpg

You can connect Mac accessories to the Vision Pro, including the Magic Keyboard and the Magic Trackpad for input purposes. Attaching Bluetooth accessories allows for a typical Mac workflow to continue to be used, with the display replaced by Vision Pro.

Vision Pro is set to launch in early 2024, so we won't know more about how it functions as an actual Mac display replacement until closer to that date. The headset is priced starting at $3,499.

Article Link: How Apple Vision Pro Works With the Mac
Can you use it with iPad?
 
Using Vision Pro as a Mac monitor is one of the top reasons I am saving to buy Vision Pro at launch. I bought a Mac Studio just because I knew that Vision Pro probably wouldn't support my iMac Intel. In the meantime, I will use a cheap monitor for my Studio waiting for launch day!
 
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