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Would be a great feature if you can have multiple virtual monitors, but not holding my breath. Have you ever used your iPad as an extended screen for you MacBook? Great while on the road but disconnects all the time, even with a cable attaching the iPad to the Mac.
 
Okay, it very much is being presented as a professional type device. I’m a VR skeptic (and you’ll pry my mechanical keyboard from my cold dead hands), and I’ve got some RSI related concerns, but if Apple’s targeting professional applications for their AR and VR, I’m cool with that. It’s more the whole “let’s live in the Metaverse!” idea people keep pushing that I distrust. I recognize that VR has legitimate value in certain professional markets, and I suppose they needed a VR answer for the Mac platform for professionals who could benefit from AR/VR. They’re definitely not taking this in a Metaverse direction (yet), which I remain highly skeptical of. This isn’t a headset you live in, thank goodness.

I’m not in the target audience for this, it doesn’t really benefit my workflow any, but it’s a good thing for people for whom it makes sense. I’m a software developer, I’m one of those computer professionals who absolutely needs a keyboard, and I prefer tactile keys, no less. I can’t imagine how awful of a typing experience typing a program in thin air would be! And I practically live in a terminal window all day, so this headset does nothing for me. But it probably makes tons of sense for, say, photo or media editing.
 
I am curious to see how the VisonPro would act as a display for design work using Photoshop/Illustrator/AE/C4D. If the extreme proximity of the internal google display to the eyes would cause eye fatigue way faster than traditional monitors.
I'm looking for an alternative to the XDR display due to the crazy price.
 
I am curious to see how the VisonPro would act as a display for design work using Photoshop/Illustrator/AE/C4D. If the extreme proximity of the internal google display to the eyes would cause eye fatigue way faster than traditional monitors.
I'm looking for an alternative to the XDR display due to the crazy price.
Well, eye fatigue when looking at a computer has more to do with the muscles of your eyes getting tired of fixed focus. I’d hope that the Vision Pro has features for reducing eye strain, if you’re intended to use it for longer periods of time. I reckon they could subtly move displays or adjust focus length to help prevent eye strain.
 
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I wonder if Apple Vision Pro can display the screen of a Mac mini that is not connected to a monitor.
 
Too much bandwidth for wireless. I think they could have allowed the mac to project multiple low quality display streams, but only the one you focus at is at 4k.

It would be nice to support a direct physical connection via thunderbolt 4 cable to deal with the bandwidth issue.
Just use Wifi 6. You use Bluetooth for the initial handshake and WiFi 6 for the actual data. Everything would need to be on the same network.
 
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If there are multiple compatible Macs, how will it identify which one you are looking at?

It knows where you're looking, right? Look at the one you want to 'mirror', tap your fingers... boom!
It knows what is on the screen. If the view on the screen is the same as monitor 3 on Mac 2, that's the one. It could even blink the screen faster than most humans can see, with a special code.
Sounds like early on, maybe a couple of generations in, the Vision Pro could just BE the Mac? It’s got an M2 chip. It’s got the apps. I’m hoping to just move over to it fully at some point. Not control my Mac from it.
I suspect it can operate as a Mac, but there are times when you want to do stuff with your laptop or desktop. I guess you could copy the files to the vision, edit them, then copy them back, but that would be a pain.
Okay, it very much is being presented as a professional type device. I’m a VR skeptic (and you’ll pry my mechanical keyboard from my cold dead hands), and I’ve got some RSI related concerns, but if Apple’s targeting professional applications for their AR and VR, I’m cool with that. It’s more the whole “let’s live in the Metaverse!” idea people keep pushing that I distrust. I recognize that VR has legitimate value in certain professional markets, and I suppose they needed a VR answer for the Mac platform for professionals who could benefit from AR/VR. They’re definitely not taking this in a Metaverse direction (yet), which I remain highly skeptical of. This isn’t a headset you live in, thank goodness.

I’m not in the target audience for this, it doesn’t really benefit my workflow any, but it’s a good thing for people for whom it makes sense. I’m a software developer, I’m one of those computer professionals who absolutely needs a keyboard, and I prefer tactile keys, no less. I can’t imagine how awful of a typing experience typing a program in thin air would be! And I practically live in a terminal window all day, so this headset does nothing for me. But it probably makes tons of sense for, say, photo or media editing.
You can use a hard keyboard and trackpad or mouse if you want. You also have the option of using the virtual device.
I am curious to see how the VisonPro would act as a display for design work using Photoshop/Illustrator/AE/C4D. If the extreme proximity of the internal google display to the eyes would cause eye fatigue way faster than traditional monitors.
I'm looking for an alternative to the XDR display due to the crazy price.
They can set the focal dept to whatever they want. I am kind of hoping that it has a variable focal depth depending on how far away the object is. That is a very big ask. Perhaps on the next version.
 
I believe I read somewhere that it also runs macOS apps. Anyone find more info on if/what macOS apps are natively supported?
I don’t think they’re natively supported. More likely, a macOS app can be made compatible with Vision just like it can be made compatible with an iPad. A developer has to go through the effort and then make it available on the appropriate App Store.
 
Only the other day I was thinking how absolutely appalling my MacBook Pro's display is.

No, I didn't. Apple has perfected its displays.

A solution in search of a problem... This is going to become as big a catchphrase as "There's an app for that".
 
It would make much more sense if you could connect the mask to the mac with a cable for two reasons:
- it would improve the reliability and bandwidth of the connection
- it would replace the (anyway) existing cable to the battery, using the mac as a power source

Just imagine the workflow: you arrive to your coworking space, let your mac (with 100% battery) in your bag pack, just get the visionPro and plug it to the closed mac in your bag, get your magic keyboard and start working on a triple monitor for maybe 6-7 hours.
 
I prefer the look of David’s NeuroVisor!

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Only the other day I was thinking how absolutely appalling my MacBook Pro's display is.

No, I didn't. Apple has perfected its displays.

A solution in search of a problem... This is going to become as big a catchphrase as "There's an app for that".

A 16" display isn't 'perfect' when the piece you are creating is intended for an iMax cinema screen.
 
A 16" display isn't 'perfect' when the piece you are creating is intended for an iMax cinema screen.
You really think Paramount/Universal etc are going to be making movies using the Apple headset? Is it even colour accurate, for example?
 
Sounds nice but I regularly have 10 Apps open on my Mac, will they each r=take up their own space in my virtual reality? Will I be able to move the one I am working in to the centre, and will I be constantly twisting my neck to look for the App I need?
 
During the Keynote, I could swear there was a virtual keyboard in one of the views. As for the mouse, would it create a virtual mouse, and when it detects your hand covering it, any movement of your hand would translate to mouse movements? Open your hand wide (fingers spread) would disconnect you from that interface? Developers are gonna have fun with this new platform!
There was a virtual keyboard mentioned and shown during the office demonstration. The eye tracking and high resolution gesture tracking eliminates the need for a mouse
 
If the Vision Pro can replace my Mac, I would buy it. I'm not going to buy this if I still need a separate Mac. I'll get a nice monitor then instead.

It has a M2 in it. So theoretically possible it has everything I need. As a webdeveloper, I need IntelliJ, terminal, Docker etc.

So it either needs to be able to run MacOS natively (very unlikely). Or run MacOS apps natively and have some sort of Finder (also I don't think this would happen). OR 3rd party apps for VisionOS that would allow me to do all my work, and possibly change my workflow a little bit (most likely).

Then there is of course the current greedy state of Apple, that will probably do anything in its power to sell you this thing alongside a Mac, iPhone, iPad and whatever. In the Steve Jobs era Apple wasn't so afraid of cannibalisation.
 
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