How can I uninstall Snow Leopard or Vista ll?

[calderone]

The bloated Snow Leopard ISO won't even fit on a single-layer DVD

[ Windows 7 ISO: 3GB ]

Oh boy, let's compare the size of our ISO. Smallest one wins… I am not concerned with the ISO. It could be on a damn blu-ray, if it runs better, it runs better.

 

[rhett7660]

The bloated Snow Leopard ISO won't even fit on a single-layer DVD

[ Windows 7 ISO: 3GB ]

And this matters how?

 

[jmpage2]

The bloated Snow Leopard ISO won't even fit on a single-layer DVD

[ Windows 7 ISO: 3GB ]

Ummm, OS X 10.6 uses file level compression that Windows can only dream of (storing data in the resource fork of the file attributes). That's why when you install SL you recover 10-20GB of disc space.

Only someone with little knowledge of an OS would call OS X 'bloatware'.

 

[Infrared]

Ummm, OS X 10.6 uses file level compression that Windows can only dream of (storing data in the resource fork of the file attributes).

Windows has supported transparent file compression since 1995.
OS X is only 14 years behind?

That's why when you install SL you recover 10-20GB of disc space.

I have an 8GB Leopard installation. After installing SL the OS will
occupy -2GB or less of disk space? Cool

 

[jmpage2]

Windows has supported transparent file compression since 1995.
OS X is only 14 years behind?



I have an 8GB Leopard installation. After installing SL the OS will
occupy -2GB or less of disk space? Cool

Umm, storing data in the resource fork (and only in the resource fork) is nothing like Windows compression. In fact, OS X 10.6 actually speeds up substantially because it requires fewer disk passes to access the compressed files and a trivial CPU load to decompress them at usage time. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit before copping an attitude.

 

[Infrared]

In fact, OS X 10.6 actually speeds up substantially because it requires fewer disk passes to access the compressed files and a trivial CPU load to decompress them at usage time.

The other way to require fewer disk passes is to have a less
bloated OS to start with.

 

[cmaier]

The other way to require fewer disk passes is to have a less
bloated OS to start with.

True. Which is why it's doubly-nice that SL is a lean OS.

 

[jmpage2]

The other way to require fewer disk passes is to have a less
bloated OS to start with.

A new install of Windows 7 is ~7GB. A new install of OS X 10.6 is ~7GB. Considering how much more OS X does out of the box (integrated Exchange support, iTunes, etc) I'd say that you are being pissy for the sake of being pissy.

 

[cmaier]

Feh. To make windows bearable you need to install cygwin. That adds a bunch of disk space. It ain't an operating system if you can't run tcsh on it. Heck, my mac came with perl and vim preloaded as part of the OS. In the same amount of disk space, windows gives us .bat files. Yeah, right.

 

[jmpage2]

Feh. To make windows bearable you need to install cygwin. That adds a bunch of disk space. It ain't an operating system if you can't run tcsh on it.

Or a real terminal, ssh, etc.

I agree. Windows 7 is a bit of a joke (although a huge improvement for Vista users).

Windows 7 'bloat' is related to trying to fix about 1 million Vista issues that never should have existed in the first place.

OS X 'bloat' is related to completely new architecture that unlocks cpu and gpu capabilities in new ways for developers.

But since Win7 has DirectX I guess it wins.

 

[boswellr]

Uninstall Snow Leopard

I would like to uninstall snow leopard. Someone said to erase and then install. What does this mean? Is it that I should put something in the trash. I don't see snow leopard as something which could be trashed. Should I go through a restore? I do not mind reinstalling programs but I am having so many difficulties with Snow Leopard working with programs including Quicktime, Photoshop CS4 that I would rather wait until the bugs have been fixed.

 

[HLdan]

I would like to uninstall snow leopard. Someone said to erase and then install. What does this mean? Is it that I should put something in the trash. I don't see snow leopard as something which could be trashed. Should I go through a restore? I do not mind reinstalling programs but I am having so many difficulties with Snow Leopard working with programs including Quicktime, Photoshop CS4 that I would rather wait until the bugs have been fixed.

How does SL have problems with it's own media player made for it? Adobe has already announced that CS4 is fully compatible with SL. Instead of getting rid of SL, (which I'm assuming as you didn't say you wanted to reinstall it) maybe you should do an erase and reinstall. You can do this in Disk Utility from the install screen.

 

[cmaier]

I would like to uninstall snow leopard. Someone said to erase and then install. What does this mean? Is it that I should put something in the trash. I don't see snow leopard as something which could be trashed. Should I go through a restore? I do not mind reinstalling programs but I am having so many difficulties with Snow Leopard working with programs including Quicktime, Photoshop CS4 that I would rather wait until the bugs have been fixed.

I believe the Leopard install disk has an "erase and install" option. If not, you can use disk utility to erase your disk, then just install leopard from the install disk.

 

[jmpage2]

I would like to uninstall snow leopard. Someone said to erase and then install. What does this mean? Is it that I should put something in the trash. I don't see snow leopard as something which could be trashed. Should I go through a restore? I do not mind reinstalling programs but I am having so many difficulties with Snow Leopard working with programs including Quicktime, Photoshop CS4 that I would rather wait until the bugs have been fixed.

1. Make a Time Machine Backup of your current system.

2. Insert your Leopard (not snow leopard) disc.

3. Reboot the computer and hold down the "C" key until the OS X installer starts.

4. Choose Disk Utility and choose to erase and install onto your primary 'Macintosh HD' partition.

5. Once Leopard is reinstalled run system update.

6. Run Migration Assistant and import your data and apps from your Time Machine backup.

 

[soms]

So....you are blaming Apple for issues you are having with 3rd party apps/printers? That makes a LOT of sense...





no wait, it doesn't.

Give it some time. Your 3rd party people will update drivers in the future.

 

[heatmiser]

1. Make a Time Machine Backup of your current system.

2. Insert your Leopard (not snow leopard) disc.

3. Reboot the computer and hold down the "C" key until the OS X installer starts.

4. Choose Disk Utility and choose to erase and install onto your primary 'Macintosh HD' partition.

5. Once Leopard is reinstalled run system update.

6. Run Migration Assistant and import your data and apps from your Time Machine backup.

Folks like you make this forum bearable. It's amazing how many people respond to a request for help by telling the requester to get used to the problem. I logged in just to say good job.

 

[calderone]

Folks like you make this forum bearable. It's amazing how many people respond to a request for help by telling the requester to get used to the problem. I logged in just to say good job.

I logged in to say good job too, your quoting skills are impeccable. To respond negatively to a helpful post takes skill, tru™ skill.

 

[finister]

I hate Snow Leopard

I, too, want to uninstall and go back to Leopard so I can get videos to play again without hassle (on Quicktime 7, which is WAY better than Snow's new player). HOW DO I DO IT? Everyone says to erase and reinstall Leopard, but I am new to Mac and don't know what you mean by "erase". If you erase a platform, how do you boot?
I need steps to do this. HELP!
Lee

 

[cjmillsnun]

pebkac

You could be right.

 

[cjmillsnun]

I, too, want to uninstall and go back to Leopard so I can get videos to play again without hassle (on Quicktime 7, which is WAY better than Snow's new player). HOW DO I DO IT? Everyone says to erase and reinstall Leopard, but I am new to Mac and don't know what you mean by "erase". If you erase a platform, how do you boot?
I need steps to do this. HELP!
Lee

Quicktime 7 is an optional install in Snow Leopard, Look in your Utilities folder

 

[cjmillsnun]

Sorry, but that's also FUD. I used Vista 64 from Beta 2 when it was very buggy, but starting with RC2 it was not. There were problems with older hardware, but not with the latest generation. Used with newer hardware and 2GB of RAM it ran very smoothly and, in my case, much better than XP.

The problem was in addition to the older hardware that Superfetch took a few days to speed up the system, but by then many had already given up and called Vista garbage. Add to that the indexing that made the harddrive spin almost constantly in the first few days and the terrible marketing from MS. And lets not forget that much of the UI changed which made many users mad.

SL was smart to avoid the UI changes with SL, but as we see the changes in architecture are already angering many like in this thread.

Is it a FUD? I had a Santa Rosa Laptop that was 1 month old and installed Vista in April 07. uggh. It IS a memory hog, it is slower than XP. 7 proves that as they have been able to tweak it and make it work reasonably well again.

 

[finister]

I did the optional install of Quicktime 7. Still does not work with online video or emailed video unless I save it and open it separately. AND...I just discovered that my wireless HP printer no longer is recognized.

AND...I just discovered error 43. The Time Machine doesn't work. Great.

So...If I follow the instructions (nicely written...thanks!) for reinstalling Leopard, what happens to the apps? Do they stay, or is it the equivalent of formatting a drive? Does everything go, and have to be reinstalled?

I sure need some good advice.

finister

 

[Buzby Berkley]

Uninstall Snow Leopard

I too need to uninstall SL. I need to update the certificates on Quicken Mac 2007 and Quicken (spoke with rep) has issues with SL and will not update the certificate. It was suggested I uninstall SL, update Quicken certificates, then reinstall SL. Before the question is asked - Quicken Mac update "may" be available February 2010 and I need the updated certificates now. Is it possible to uninstall SL and if yes, how? Thanks.

 

[calderone]

I too need to uninstall SL. I need to update the certificates on Quicken Mac 2007 and Quicken (spoke with rep) has issues with SL and will not update the certificate. It was suggested I uninstall SL, update Quicken certificates, then reinstall SL. Before the question is asked - Quicken Mac update "may" be available February 2010 and I need the updated certificates now. Is it possible to uninstall SL and if yes, how? Thanks.

Yeah, you format your machine and reinstall Leopard. Why are people treating this like it is some application installed to your machine? It is an Operating System people. Jeez.

 

[ABG]

Ummm... wow. Apple gets held to higher standards than MS does because people expect OS X to be a rock.

Anyone who went through Vista's launch knows that it was a mess. There was no way to do an upgraded installation and there were far more issues with hardware and application compatibility. For months people had to run their applications in XP compatibility mode to have any hope of them working correctly. People who load OS X and do a 15 minute migration of their applications and files have no idea what it's like to migrate OS on an MS platform. They have no idea how good they've got it and would rather sit around here whining that the OS install didn't detect their 100 system hacks and 10 year old software and patch them up so they work perfect.

You and others are completely blowing the problems out of proportion. Yes, a number of applications don't work, mostly older ones or 'system hacks' that you should know wouldn't work with a completely rewritten OS. Yes, there are a few bugs such as 10.6 shipping with an outdated buggy version of Flash.

Seriously though, what flipping planet do you live on to make it out to be a Vista like OS? The overwhelming majority of reviews of Snow Leopard have been positive (unlike Vista) and the fact is that if you have a stock system (or even a near stock system) SL works great!

Maybe Macrumors admins can build a new OS X sub forum for the 5% of SL whiners to get together and gripe and whine about how horrible it is.

What a pile of $h!t. MS builds an OS that doesn't work, MS are flamed. Apple does the same, hey its not their fault its the customers, the third party apps, the other suppliers everyone and everything except them.
I have a stock iMac system and its fallen apart. Just because its OK for you, doesn't mean its OK for everyone else. To call people who have spent thousands on Apple software and hardware whiners when a previously stable system becomes unusable shows a basic lack of intelligence. For the record I also have a MBP and its fine, which is what I expected.

I agree its not Vista II - I don't have this level of trouble with Vista.