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how can you bend your iPhone 6 under normal usage

fotomarc said:
When I get into my car I put my iPhone into the console. Others put it into a holder on the dash to use it as navigator. The few times I have had to pull it out of my pocket, I can't say there has been so much force it would bend so easily!
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?? pulling it out of you pocket with so much force it would bend would not be normal usage.

Normal usage for the plus would be different than normal usage for the 5/5s due to the size alone.

I don't think people are taking that into consideration when defining normal usage IMO.
 
ckurt25 said:
Exactly what I thought until I bent mine.

Go look at all of my posts. I defended Apple when bendgate hit, I've posted nothing but positive things about Apple over the last few years. I love my 6+ EXCEPT for the fact that it bent so easily. It isn't people misusing their phone, it's a design flaw.

Apple has made them in the past and quietly acknowledged them. The issue they had with the polycarbonate macbooks, and how they handled it, is why I'm a loyal Apple customer today. My macbook developed a crack after about 18 months - well out of warranty. Apple fixed it for free. 6 months later it happened again and they fixed it for free again - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple-Finally-Addressing-White-MacBook-Cracks-109115.shtml

As long as Apple takes care of the phones that get bent, like they did mine, I'll remain a customer. That loyalty would end in a heartbeat should they stop replacing bent phones.
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So what you are saying is that you bent your phone and apple replaced the phone. That doesn't sound like an issue.

btw - Did you have apple care?
 
KdParker said:
So what you are saying is that you bent your phone and apple replaced the phone. That doesn't sound like an issue.

btw - Did you have apple care?
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I guess that would depend on what one's definition of an "issue" is. Is it an issue that it bent easily? I would say yes. Is it an issue that is happening to others? From what I've seen, I would say yes. Is it an issue that Apple is / isn't taking care of is customers? If Apple continues to replace phones I wouldn't call that part of it an issue.

As consumers we have expectations that the products we buy (and pay top dollar for) will hold up to everyday use. The iPhone 6+ is not holding up to everyday use. I would call that an issue. Yes, Apple replaced it but the fact that it happened so easily and the phone had to be returned to an Apple Store isn't something I look forward to experiencing again. I have absolutely no confidence that it will remain bend free for the next 11 months. If I have to go into the Apple Store multiple times to have it replaced, I would call that an issue.

To answer your other question - No, I do not have Apple Care.
 
stormYe said:
how could you possibly apply that much pressure to the device under normal usage? I mean there have been bendgate posts about a week after those phones were released all of which were bent during everyday use
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I sit down with my phone in my pocket. It's now bent.

My friend keeps hers in her purse. Hers bent as well and had it replaced.

It's a thin piece of aluminuum. This isn't rocket science.
 
bjb.butler said:
I sit down with my phone in my pocket. It's now bent.

My friend keeps hers in her purse. Hers bent as well and had it replaced.

It's a thin piece of aluminuum. This isn't rocket science.
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I don't understand this... I don't have mine yet, but this just seems crazy. Yes, you are right. It's a piece of aluminum! Metal! With a sheet of glass on top of it! These are tough materials. How is it possible to bend in your pocket?

I'll admit, I'm slightly worried about this issue and my 6+ that I'm waiting for but, dang, it just seems ridiculous.
 
ckurt25 said:
The iPhone 6+ is not holding up to everyday use.
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...according to you and a relatively small number of others. According to me and several million iPhone 6 Plus owners it's holding up to every day use just fine. So, who does Apple listen to? A miniscule minority of owners who bent their phones and (in most cases) had them replaced or the vast majority who haven't bent their phones?

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bjb.butler said:
I sit down with my phone in my pocket. It's now bent.

My friend keeps hers in her purse. Hers bent as well and had it replaced.

It's a thin piece of aluminuum. This isn't rocket science.
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Nope. Not science at all. A scientist would want to know exactly when and how the phones became bent. "I sit down with my phone in my pocket and my friend keeps her's in her purse" isn't an answer to the question "how and when did the phones become bent?"
 
Surf Monkey said:
...according to you and a relatively small number of others. According to me and several million iPhone 6 Plus owners it's holding up to every day use just fine. So, who does Apple listen to? A miniscule minority of owners who bent their phones and (in most cases) had them replaced or the vast majority who haven't bent their phones?
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Listen, I thought exactly the way you did until late last week. It's happened to a small number in just a few weeks. That number will grow. Apple hasn't come out and said "You're sitting wrong" like they did with antennagate. They are replacing the phones. They'll be forced to continue replacing them until they stop bending. If I would have dropped my phone and the screen broke they would not have replaced it. It bent from normal ever day use and thats why they replaced it with no questions asked.

I hope your phone doesn't bend. It's not a lot of fun getting an appointment at the Apple Store, going in, sitting there, getting a new device, restoring it and configuring it. From what I've personally experienced, I would bet a lot of money this ends up happening to a lot of people. I don't think for a second that Apple will issue a mass recall but I'll be shocked if the 6S+ isn't reinforced so it's less likely to bend.

It's also not about Apple "listening" to anyone but themselves. Replacing phones costs them money. If the amount of money they lose from replacements (and possibly from damage to reputation) is enough they'll spend more time looking at the next phone and designing it so it is less likely to bend.

The one point people keep missing that are saying "my phone hasn't bent" is that it hasn't bent, yet. If you're phone hasn't bent yet it doesn't mean it will never bend. At most you've had it 5 1/2 weeks. I can guarantee there are people with unbent phones today that will end up with bent phones by the time the next iPhone comes out.
 
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ckurt25 said:
It bent from normal ever day use ...
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But again, "normal everyday use" is not a reason why it bent. There was a specific reason it bent. Whether or not it was "normal" is a subjective point, but objectively there had to be some situation that caused the bending. A specific circumstance or set of circumstances. To that extent it's basically impossible for you to say that a significant number of other people will encounter the same problem since you haven't yet identified the exact circumstances under which the device got damaged.
 
Surf Monkey said:
But again, "normal everyday use" is not a reason why it bent. There was a specific reason it bent. Whether or not it was "normal" is a subjective point, but objectively there had to be some situation that caused the bending. A specific circumstance or set of circumstances. To that extent it's basically impossible for you to say that a significant number of other people will encounter the same problem since you haven't yet identified the exact circumstances under which the device got damaged.
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It was in my pocket when I sat down. If that's not "normal every day use" I don't know what to call it.
 
ckurt25 said:
The one point people keep missing that are saying "my phone hasn't bent" is that it hasn't bent, yet. If you're phone hasn't bent yet it doesn't mean it will never bend. At most you've had it 5 1/2 weeks. I can guarantee there are people with unbent phones today that will end up with bent phones by the time the next iPhone comes out.
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No one is missing that "point." The problem is that it's not really a point at all given the lack of specific data surrounding the CAUSE of the bends.

For example: plenty of people reading this haven't broken their leg... YET! But over the course of the next two years some are bound to break their legs just from living their normal, everyday lives. Therefore legs are obviously inferior in design.

Does that argument make sense to you?

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jpeg42 said:
Don't even waste your time. He won't understand.
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Don't waste your time on members who think it's their duty to warn people about other members.

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ckurt25 said:
It was in my pocket when I sat down. If that's not "normal every day use" I don't know what to call it.
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And you know that's how yours got bent? (Note also that saying specifically how it got damaged is very different than just saying "normal everyday use" and leaving it at that, which is what many people have done and continue to do.)
 
ckurt25 said:
:rolleyes: I'm going to take the advice given and just ignore you, sorry. I know you think you're right, but you're not. Good luck in fantasy world.
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In other words, you refuse to say whether you're sure that's how it got bent or not. That kind of reticence doesn't really help your case much. Neither does the unwarranted smear.
 
Surf Monkey said:
Don't waste your time on members who think it's their duty to warn people about other members.
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I apologize if I derailed your same circular argument. But what is the point if you can't understand that the phone bends in pockets for some people? No one can PROVE it bends in their pockets. They put it in unbent, they went about their day standing up and sitting down, it came out bent. If you can't understand that, it is on you ;)
 
jpeg42 said:
I apologize if I derailed your same circular argument. But what is the point if you can't understand that the phone bends in pockets for some people? No one can PROVE it bends in their pockets. They put it in unbent, they went about their day standing up and sitting down, it came out bent. If you can't understand that, it is on you ;)
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What circular argument? I didn't make one. I asked what the specific circumstances were. The rest? You made that up.
 
Surf Monkey said:
In other words, you refuse to say whether you're sure that's how it got bent or not. That kind of reticence doesn't really help your case much. Neither does the unwarranted smear.
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I've changed my mind, I hope your phone does bend.

I'm 110% sure that's how it bent. It was either that or from placing the phone flat on my desk. Or possibly from the sun rising in the east. I don't know... What do you think caused it to bend? Did I play tug of war with it? Was it from keeping it in my pocket when I played rugby over the weekend?
 
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ckurt25 said:
I've changed my mind, I hope your phone does bend.

I'm 110% sure that's how it bent. It was either that or from placing the phone flat on my desk. Or possibly from the sun rising in the east. I don't know... What do you think caused it to bend? Did I play tug of war with it? Was it from keeping it in my pocket when I played rugby over the weekend?
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Why did you get so defensive and worked up when you could have just answered the question? A "yes, I'm sure that's how it got bent" would have been sufficient.
 
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ckurt25 said:
I guess that would depend on what one's definition of an "issue" is. Is it an issue that it bent easily? I would say yes. Is it an issue that is happening to others? From what I've seen, I would say yes. Is it an issue that Apple is / isn't taking care of is customers? If Apple continues to replace phones I wouldn't call that part of it an issue.

As consumers we have expectations that the products we buy (and pay top dollar for) will hold up to everyday use. The iPhone 6+ is not holding up to everyday use. I would call that an issue. Yes, Apple replaced it but the fact that it happened so easily and the phone had to be returned to an Apple Store isn't something I look forward to experiencing again. I have absolutely no confidence that it will remain bend free for the next 11 months. If I have to go into the Apple Store multiple times to have it replaced, I would call that an issue.

To answer your other question - No, I do not have Apple Care.
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How did you bend your phone? Curious to what you mean by 'easily'.

edit - nevermind - Found your reason in previous post.
 
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Haha I'm just glad more and more people are reporting them bending. Mine is slightly bent and I don't care but it seems like there are a ton of fanboys on this forum, plus other Apple forums, that refuse to believe it.

As soon as somebody says they bent their phone the response is always "you shouldn't have sat on it."
 
There are no known problems with the 6 bending. And even the 6 Plus takes extreme pressure to bend. This obviously isn't unrealistic, but to bend the 6 Plus you would need to weigh 270+ pounds, sitting on a hard chair, for an extended amount of time, putting the right amount of pressure on just the right point on the phone. It isn't likely to happen basically.
 
SuperPolli said:
There are no known problems with the 6 bending. And even the 6 Plus takes extreme pressure to bend. This obviously isn't unrealistic, but to bend the 6 Plus you would need to weigh 270+ pounds, sitting on a hard chair, for an extended amount of time, putting the right amount of pressure on just the right point on the phone. It isn't likely to happen basically.
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But mine is bent very slightly from pulling it out of its case
 
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