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How do we know were not in a coma and everything around us is made up?

just give us all a slap. that'll wake us up... We'll have to, unless we like pain.
I don't think any of this is a fantasy...

Being in debit is something real enough..
 
You know you're not in a coma, because really weird and inexplicable things would be happening if this was all made up. You would be constantly surrounded by irrational and illogical events in which people seemed to act as if propelled by sheer randomness rather than real information. The fact that nothing weird and strange is happening, at all, is evidence that you're not dreaming or living in a simulation. Your mind would make up some really crazy things. Like the Presidential Election would result in an inexplicable and bizarre result, for example. If you were dreaming.
 
You know you're not in a coma, because really weird and inexplicable things would be happening if this was all made up. You would be constantly surrounded by irrational and illogical events in which people seemed to act as if propelled by sheer randomness rather than real information. The fact that nothing weird and strange is happening, at all, is evidence that you're not dreaming or living in a simulation. Your mind would make up some really crazy things. Like the Presidential Election would result in an inexplicable and bizarre result, for example. If you were dreaming.
I think the point might be is that if we are talking about reality, what is that exactly? We think we know what it is, but along the lines of a dream, or a coma, we could exist as an avatar in an elaborate simulation, with consistent rules. If we are persistent beyond, what we understand as a mortal life, the question, why or how is our memory wiped or controlled so we are only aware of our present circumstances?
 
just give us all a slap. that'll wake us up... We'll have to, unless we like pain.
I don't think any of this is a fantasy...

Being in debit is something real enough..
Maybe a kick with a slowed down version of "je ne regrette rien" by Edith Piaf.
 
Wouldn't Wally be the only one in a coma as this is his dream sequence. We would all be in different comas having different experiences so it would not work. Now a computer simulation is possible. But that would mean we don't exist at all and are just bits in a computer program.
 
Wouldn't Wally be the only one in a coma as this is his dream sequence. We would all be in different comas having different experiences so it would not work. Now a computer simulation is possible. But that would mean we don't exist at all and are just bits in a computer program.

Just because we might be bits in a computer program wouldn't mean we didn't exist. Unless we're assuming the laws of physics as we understand them (whether we're bits or not) are inapplicable if we're living in a simulation.
 
Just because we might be bits in a computer program wouldn't mean we didn't exist. Unless we're assuming the laws of physics as we understand them (whether we're bits or not) are inapplicable if we're living in a simulation.
If we are living in a simulation can't the bits be deleted? So someone might get deleted and those bits used for something else.
 
If we are living in a simulation can't the bits be deleted? So someone might get deleted and those bits used for something else.
Isn't that what happens anyway, simulation or not? The atoms in our bodies were part of other things, living or not before and will be after.
 
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If we are living in a simulation can't the bits be deleted? So someone might get deleted and those bits used for something else.

True, but as @decafjava has noted above, we at least think that's already what happens in what we imagine is "real life" and not just a simulation.

So I guess we're back to asking what is "existence" or maybe just time for another watch of Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. I'd do anything to avoid re-watching most of that thing so I do hope this thread can sort things out in some other way. :rolleyes:
 
True, but as @decafjava has noted above, we at least think that's already what happens in what we imagine is "real life" and not just a simulation.

So I guess we're back to asking what is "existence" or maybe just time for another watch of Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. I'd do anything to avoid re-watching most of that thing so I do hope this thread can sort things out in some other way. :rolleyes:
The more I watch Men In Black the more I think the plot could be true. Combine that with the plot from the Matrix and it will really blow your mind.
 
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