How do you like your steak?

[jsolares]

Marinating for me depends on the cut and how tender the meat is, or just let it rest in the fridge for a couple more days.

We don't usually have any of the cuts you guys do, unless it's imported meat from the US, my favorite is puyaso, picanha in brasil, i think it's top sirloin cap or culotte, cut well, with only olive oil and a bit of sea salt and it's the best ever.

 

[anjinha]

I'll eat it no matter how it's cooked. I prefer a warm rare, but if it's well done, it's still better than most other meats. Yeah, it's "ruined," but it's even more ruined if no one eats it.

There's an awesome place here called the Spain that sells cut steak—so tender I cut it with a spoon—in an amazing mushroom sauce.

I kind of like that everyone has a different preference for steak. It's fun to try to cook them to other's specifications. It's a challenge.

The best steak I've had was at this place called Alexander's Steakhouse in Cupertino (there's one in San Francisco as well). It's basically a fancy steakhouse with some asian influences.

I had this filet mignon with a green olive tapenade there that was out of this world! I miss it.

Marinating for me depends on the cut and how tender the meat is, or just let it rest in the fridge for a couple more days.

We don't usually have any of the cuts you guys do, unless it's imported meat from the US, my favorite is puyaso, picanha in brasil, i think it's top sirloin cap or culotte, cut well, with only olive oil and a bit of sea salt and it's the best ever.

I love picanha!

 

[bdodds1985]

where do you come up with this stuff? BACK TA WORK YOUUU!!

 

[zync]

The best steak I've had was at this place called Alexander's Steakhouse in Cupertino (there's one in San Francisco as well). It's basically a fancy steakhouse with some asian influences.

I had this filet mignon with a green olive tapenade there that was out of this world! I miss it.

Whenever I get to San Francisco, I'll be sure to make a stop there!

 

[(marc)]

I don't get the vegan/vegetarian argument—especially if it hinges upon not harming living things, because plants are alive too. They just can't scream. We were made to eat meat. Period. Anything else is less efficient.

And if the animal is already dead, I think it's wrong to not eat it. Then it died in vain.

Check out MR's finest vegan threads here and here.

 

[iJohnHenry]

How do you like your steak?

Holding a rabbit down.

What?

Really??

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Rare, rare, rare......

When I was a kid, I really couldn't stand steak - it was hard to eat, and could be said to have been as tough as proverbial shoe leather. Now, I must admit that I didn't realise that this was because it was over-cooked, as, in Ireland in those days, that was how everyone ate things.....murdered meat, assassinated vegetables, and awful salads, it must be said that our culinary specialities failed to set the world on fire.

Then, as an awkward clever teenager, I was sent on a sort of cultural exchange to spend a month with a charming, civilised and extremely kind French family who lived in the centre of Paris. That visit absolutely blew my mind, utterly transformed my world view, and comprehensively re-arranged my mental furniture. It also taught me that you can listen to classical music at meal-times, and, in addition, it gave me a taste for rare steak and strong coffee which I have never lost.

 

[B777Forevar]

Medium rare

 

[Jaffa Cake]

This post is very well done.

That's quite rare around MR these days.

Rare? No, it's Blue.

 

[lewis82]

I'd say halfway between medium and medium rare. You have to consider that I have eaten well done meat for the most part of my life as it's how my mother cooked it. Now I'm progressing towards the Perfect Steak altough I don't believe I'll go lower than medium rare.

 

[KnightWRX]

The problem with you KnightWRX is that you don’t discuss. You dictate….

Dictatorship requires subservient followers. Just... I dunno, don't adhere to what I say ? How hard is that ?

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That's quite a generalization. Usually I don't disagree with you, but this is a ludicrous comment. It's not really bad. We're not a food mecca, but don't act like you can't find anywhere to have an amazing meal. If you can't, you're not looking hard enough.

Why did you leave out my 2nd paragraph where I stated there are some places in the state to get a good meal. In fact, one of my favorite places is a State side restaurant :

http://cubalibrerestaurant.com/

I ate there 3 times already. Considering all the locations are over 8 hours away from where I live, I think that means it's a pretty amazing place to me.

But frankly, you do have to agree that good food in the US is not the norm. There are quite a few gems out there though, some microbreweries are on par with our stuff in Quebec, some restaurants are a cut above, but the average is below anything I've tasted and seen elsewhere.

 

[charlieroberts]

Blue Rare

 

[Tower-Union]

I like to be introduced to the Bovinae, then run him/her past the table and I'll hack a piece off!

 

[Ddyracer]

Medium, although i don't mind medium rare at times.

 

[SpaceKitty]

Well done. Can't stand to see bloody meat sitting on the plate.

No sauce, just a little pepper on that steak and I'm happy!

 

[zync]

Check out MR's finest vegan threads here and here.

I didn't mean that I don't understand the argument. I meant that I don't buy it.

It's not healthier, contrary to what vegans believe. It doesn't have much to do with suffering, because then eating meat that was hunted would be fine and so would eating honey. And I'm sure plants feel things, they're still made up of living cells, so it'd be just as wrong to cut/rip live plants out of the ground.

For some reason people feel guilty about eating animals, even though those same animals might eat you if given the chance. There's a food chain, and it's natural. Now, I'm not for cruelly treating animals or killing additional animals when demand is less than supply, but if they're already dead, it's wrong to not eat them in my opinion. And since we're omnivores, it's unlikely that the vocal minority—vegans, vegetarians, etc.—would ever have enough of a market swing to stop even the smallest meat supplier. So to not eat meat that comes from places that treated the animals cruelly is equally egregious because not only did they die in vain, but they suffered in vain too.

I'd also like to point out, since you so smugly alluded that anyone who isn't a smug atheist might have to justify their beliefs that atheists are guilty of the same conceit as evangelical Christians. Both purport that they're correct and that there's no other possible explanation and yet neither can prove it—it's based entirely on belief. I'm agnostic because it's impossible to know and thus irrelevant.

 

[zync]

Why did you leave out my 2nd paragraph where I stated there are some places in the state to get a good meal. In fact, one of my favorite places is a State side restaurant :

http://cubalibrerestaurant.com/

I ate there 3 times already. Considering all the locations are over 8 hours away from where I live, I think that means it's a pretty amazing place to me.

But frankly, you do have to agree that good food in the US is not the norm. There are quite a few gems out there though, some microbreweries are on par with our stuff in Quebec, some restaurants are a cut above, but the average is below anything I've tasted and seen elsewhere.

Because it felt like an afterthought and you were championing a Canadian business.

In my neighborhood, there's a ton of microbreweries and excellent restaurants. So, no, I don't have to agree. Good food is abnormal if you don't know where to look. This past summer I travelled all along the east coast and found delicious meals in every city I visited.

I'll have to try this Cuba Libre place you're raving about. I'm an hour and half from Orlando. I'm skeptical since the company is started in Philly, called Cuba Libre, and there isn't one in Miami or Tampa.

I'm also skeptical of anyone's recommendations of Hispanic food. My grandmother's recipes are top-notch and some places that people love are just horrible. There's this cheap 24/7 place here that all sorts of non-Hispanic's love that uses horrible parboiled rice. It's disgusting. If you can't get rice right, you should close.

Perhaps Tampa's food is abnormal. Certainly there are people that talk about how horrible food is in the area, but when asked they often only know of the existence of chain restaurants. And I think that's where the US reputation stems from. If most of the locals don't even know there's good food around, why would anyone else?

Tampa is a mix of Cuban, Spanish, Italian, German, and other Eastern European immigrants. And that led us to the Cuban Sandwich. Contrary to naming, the Cuban Sandwich was invented in Tampa. So if you've had a real one and enjoyed it, you're welcome.

Then you have St. Pete—full of Russian immigrants—and Tarpon Springs—one of the largest Greek communities outside of Greece. We've got a decent amount of culture and a bunch of great food, but none of them are chains. Although Outback was started here.

tl;dr
Our reputation may be that our food isn't that great, but if you actually find out where the people who know what they're talking about go, then you'll find good food. I think this is true of everywhere—Quebec, Tampa, Paris, Dublin, wherever.

 

[Michael383]

I like my steak medium rare.

 

[laurim]

FYI- The red juice from a rare steak isn't blood:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/04/the-red-juice-in-raw-red-meat-is-not-blood/

I prefer medium rare. Sometimes I like just a bare steak (especially if it has good marbling). Other times I like it au poivre (peppercorn crusted) or a nice bleu cheese crust or a simple red wine reduction with mushrooms. It's all good!

 

[zync]

FYI- The red juice from a rare steak isn't blood:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/04/the-red-juice-in-raw-red-meat-is-not-blood/

I prefer medium rare. Sometimes I like just a bare steak (especially if it has good marbling). Other times I like it au poivre (peppercorn crusted) or a nice bleu cheese crust or a simple red wine reduction with mushrooms. It's all good!

I always wondered about that. Now I have a handy reference to explain it. Thanks.

 

[iBlue]

I don't want to turn this into something else, but the same can be said of what Europeans accept as quality in other areas like tiny bathrooms, ancient plumbing, and ancient infrastructure.

I live in a 1000 sqft. bungalow, so I'm not judging, but there are obviously various drawbacks to living in either place.

Honestly, I love Europe, but I could never accept European views on freedom, "safety," anti-gun views, etc. The only thing that saddens me about America is that we're heading down the same path only 50 years out.

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I could make a lot of similar comments about what Americans accept. Everywhere has their ups and downs.
You seem to have a rather generalized view of "Europe" (which is extremely varied country to country). No matter where you go you will find strange customs as well as new and old infrastructure. Europe has a lot of history and is much more cautious about preserving it than America tends to be. Buildings aren't as often knocked down and re-built with the latest quick and flimsy material. There's often logical reason for that as well. Most homes in Britain, for instance, are made of brick and concrete blocks instead of wood. It tends to last longer. There's also a much higher population density per square mile and this is especially true of cities, European and American alike.

Don't assume Europeans are all content with tiny, ancient places with lousy food. Spend enough time anywhere and you realize stereotypes can be as true as they can be untrue.


Now, if I may go marinate my steroid-free rib-eye steaks...

 

[Rampant.A.I.]

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Rare, although I find lesser restaurants in the US hesitate to provide it, but over here I don't have a problem.

However the cost is much different, as a 500g sirloin and two beers tends to run around 500SEK or about 70-75 USD, so they tend to keep in rare, if you want it rare.

Funny, since the USDA requires suppliers to irradiate our meat as part of the packing process!

 

[zync]

I could make a lot of similar comments about what Americans accept. Everywhere has their ups and downs.
You seem to have a rather generalized view of "Europe" (which is extremely varied country to country). It may surprise you to know that no matter where you go you will find strange customs as well as new and old infrastructure. Europe has a lot of history and is much more cautious about preserving it than America tends to be. Buildings aren't as often knocked down and re-built with the latest quick and flimsy material. There's often logical reason for that as well. Most homes in Britain, for instance, are made of brick and concrete blocks instead of wood. It tends to last longer. There's also a much higher population density per square mile and this is especially true of cities, European and American alike.

Don't assume Europeans are all content with tiny, ancient places with lousy food. Spend enough time anywhere and you realize stereotypes can be as true as they can be untrue.


Now, if I may go marinate my steroid-free rib-eye steaks...

You mean how you assumed that my views are generalized because they came in a list of a few items? I'm sorry I didn't properly explain all of Europe in excruciating detail in a paragraph. I've been to a few European countries, my wife has been to others, and my friends have been to still more than that. No, Europe IS a varied place with varied people and varied climates just like the States. And of course there are new and old things just as there are here. My house is of decent age. It'll be 89 this year. Considering America as we know it is only about 300 years old, that's pretty good.

If you'll take note I also said that every place has it's ups and downs. I don't know why you bash my statements while agreeing with them. And if you would have looked at what I was responding to you would have noticed that I was fighting generalization with generalization. The original poster said that he was shocked at what Americans accept as quality, as if we don't know any better. It was insulting.

And you don't have to be condescending and assume that I'm an ignorant American. You're just fulfilling one stereotype while using another.

 

[iBlue]

You mean how you assumed that my views are generalized because they came in a list of a few items? I'm sorry I didn't properly explain all of Europe in excruciating detail in a paragraph. I've been to a few European countries, my wife has been to others, and my friends have been to still more than that. No, Europe IS a varied place with varied people and varied climates just like the States. And of course there are new and old things just as there are here. My house is of decent age. It'll be 89 this year. Considering America as we know it is only about 300 years old, that's pretty good.

If you'll take note I also said that every place has it's ups and downs. I don't know why you bash my statements while agreeing with them. And if you would have looked at what I was responding to you would have noticed that I was fighting generalization with generalization. The original poster said that he was shocked at what Americans accept as quality, as if we don't know any better. It was insulting.

And you don't have to be condescending or assume that you're an ignorant American. You're just fulfilling one stereotype while using another.

I really didn't mean to sound condescending or imply that you're an ignorant American. I certainly didn't think that of you and FWIW, I'm an American. I moved here 6 years ago and I'm forever identifying stereotypes. We both seem to be pointing out flaws in generalization but perhaps not in the best way possible. I blame the hunger this thread has brought upon me.

 

[zync]

I really didn't mean to sound condescending or imply that you're an ignorant American. I certainly didn't think that and FWIW, I'm an American. I moved here 6 years ago and I'm forever identifying stereotypes. We both seem to be pointing out flaws in generalization but perhaps not in the best way possible. I blame the hunger this thread has brought upon me.

Perhaps. The truth is always a shade of grey. I just wanted to be clear that my comments stemmed from anger at insult. Perhaps I should go to sleep. That's probably my problem.