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Personally doesn't bother me at all if it's is missing. I've had my 6 for coming up on 2 years now, and I don't actually think I've even tried a set of headphones in it. In fact, I bought a wee blank thing to plug the socket and stop dirt getting into it.

However, that's just me. I can totally understand why others are pretty unhappy about it being omitted.
 
I've decided not to bother with the iPhone 7 this year after hearing about the lack of headphone jack. I ended up just going with a new-ish iPhone 6S Plus because the price point gave me lots of money left over. I went through an iPhone reseller that offers an extended warranty.. I've only had my new phone for a few days but so far so good. Definitely recommend https://www.getorchard.com/us/iphone-6s-Plus-for-sale/
 
It doesn't affect me at all. All of my iPhone headphones are still in the original packaging. I used to use a Aux cord in my previous car, but after I got a new car it has USB and Bluetooth.

I do however, understand why the lack of the headphone jack would be a bigger deal to others.
 
It's annoying TBH, it will be sold under the pretense that there will some great improvement because of it's deletion but everyone knows it's just a way for Apple to generate more revenue.
 
The 3.5 analog jack is an audio industry standard and it's ubiquitous in every piece of audio gear ever. It's less hassle and more reliable than BT and you can connect older equipment. Personally I use it and know many who do. I think it will be missed.
 
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Honestly I just don't like all the new fancy audio stuff.

I don't like bluetooth audio. I like it when there is no latency, no interference, and I don't want to have to spend a whole minute connecting my headphones wirelessly. Sure you could compare it to Wifi VS Ethernet, but that's a case where you have to connect devices that are far away, so of course Wifi is more convenient. And it works well, seamlessly, and everyone has adopted the software, while not the same is done with BT Headphones. If it's faster and if isn't a problem for me, why should I pair a device instead of just connecting to the headphone jack and that's it?

I also don't like using Apple's proprietary connector. What about everything else I have? Apple probably won't adopt USB-C on their mobile devices so that means I can ONLY use my headphones with Apple products 2012 and later. I can't even use my old 30-pin iPods and stuff for them. Let alone every other product to exist.

So honestly I'm closed until I can have my portable consoles, smartphone, computer, and the device of every single person on earth be compatible with a single pair of headphones. My EarPods currently work with a GameBoy Color for ****'s sake. It'll be such an inconvenience if I have to have two pairs of headphones when some new wireless (or crappy wired) standard will be introduced and all my old devices be incompatible with it. It's like removing RGB analogue from consoles in 2002 when HDTVs are not even a standard. Apple should have waited. Also, the fact that they are going to (according to rumours) supply Lightning EarPods instead of wireless EarPods is just beating yourself with a hammer.

and consider any situation where you can't access bluetooth headphones. I don't want cheap headphones but they can be a necessary evil if you've forgotten any headphones at all.
 
The 3.5 analog jack is an audio industry standard and it's ubiquitous in every piece of audio gear ever. It's less hassle and more reliable than BT and you can connect older equipment. Personally I use it and know many who do. I think it will be missed.

Yeah, I guess the question is how many use their phone in such a manor? I use both bluetooth and the 3.5mm jack all of the time, depending on the location and the equipment around me, and I certainly wouldn't want to carry around an adapter (unlike with my Macbook, which already has a bag, so an extra adapter is no biggie.) However, I have no idea whether I'm in the minority.
 
I see it as adding complexity where none is called for. Right now we have a compact, low-cost, and very simple plug that is probably as close to idiot-proof as possible. Supposedly it will be replaced with two alternatives - one is plug where fairly complex circuitry will be built into the plug itself or some part of the cord, and another is wireless. Both are more prone to failure due to damage, compatibility issues, software bugs, and not using it right.

There are many areas of the smartphone that can use improvement. The headphone port is one of the very few that I think did not need any meddling with at all.
 
This isn't analogous to removing the floppy/CD drive from the Mac, it's analogous to removing the keyboard from iPhone. Blackberry defined their business by catering to those who didn't want to change.
 
I see it as adding complexity where none is called for. Right now we have a compact, low-cost, and very simple plug that is probably as close to idiot-proof as possible. Supposedly it will be replaced with two alternatives - one is plug where fairly complex circuitry will be built into the plug itself or some part of the cord, and another is wireless. Both are more prone to failure due to damage, compatibility issues, software bugs, and not using it right.

There are many areas of the smartphone that can use improvement. The headphone port is one of the very few that I think did not need any meddling with at all.

Yeah, as an owner of several Mac laptops, including a Macbook, I'm all for the idea of modularity for a computer, but a phone is much different. If I want to carry a DVD drive, USB-C adapters, etc. for my Macbook, I just throw them in a bag with my laptop. With my phone, I'm not interested in modular pieces that I'd have to put in my pants pockets.
 
The last time I ever plugged in a pair of headphone in to the headphone jack was probably in college.

I used to use the Aux cable input from my car a lot, but then I got a new car that was equipped with bluetooth and usb input last year, and the headphone jack was since then, never ever utilized.

Therefore, personally the headphone jack is next to useless for me, but I can see how people would miss it.

How did people react when MBA/MBP with Retina Display/iMac came out with no CD rom?

I think it will just be another CD rom thing, where people kinda go, shoot what the hell is apple thinking? and then after a few months/year everyone's just gonna forget about it because they will be able to get adaptors/new bluetooth technology that compensates the loss of sound quality/other alternatives.

What you think?


I hate that. Apple should remember their tradition with musicians and artists who were early adopters. The fetish to eliminate industry standard ports makes life increasingly difficult for people who use audio and video with other professional grade devices. I will for the foreseeable future need 3.5mm analog audio connections any time I want to quickly use my iphone on a sound board or in a rehearsal studio to queue something up for other people. And yes, the same is true for USB ports, audio jacks and, yes, Firewire connections on Macs and MacBooks. I already carry stupid adapters for this.

And If the motivation is to really make the thing water proof, ok, maybe. Though I doubt that that's actually happening. If it's about making it thinner: I don't want it thinner. The 6s is already too thin for picking it up from a table conveniently.
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This isn't analogous to removing the floppy/CD drive from the Mac, it's analogous to removing the keyboard from iPhone. Blackberry defined their business by catering to those who didn't want to change.

And frankly, as much as I'm mostly ok with my iPhone now I still miss the old Blackberry. It was THE perfect form factor and the keyboard remains unsurpassed - especially really on newer versions of the iOS keyboard which is worse than the previous versions with larger buttons.
 
I will for the foreseeable future need 3.5mm analog audio connections any time I want to quickly use my iphone on a sound board or in a rehearsal studio to queue something up for other people. And yes, the same is true for USB ports, audio jacks and, yes, Firewire connections on Macs and MacBooks. I already carry stupid adapters for this.

Exactly. As I mentioned above, at least with my computer, I can put the adapters in a bag, so I can see both sides of the modularity issue. With a phone, though, I have no interest in carrying around more accessories.
 
The word Bluetooth is not even in that article. Connecting your phone to a Bluetooth speaker, whether it be a car or not, is not "syncing", and it's not unsafe. But I guess you didn't even read that vague pointless article before posting it.

Then let's replace "unsafe" with "unreliable". Going between two vehicles, a bluetooth headset, and a professional audio device with bluetooth control already shows being a major pain in the behind and it quite often fails to connect to the next device or back. 3.5mm plug? Always dangling around where I need it. Not to speak of my pricy and prized Shure in ear headphones (though admittedly, I mostly use those on my old iPod with the large hard drive instead of the iphone that simply can't handle my music library - I know, the horror.)
 
And If the motivation is to really make the thing water proof, ok, maybe. Though I doubt that that's actually happening. If it's about making it thinner: I don't want it thinner. The 6s is already too thin for picking it up from a table conveniently.
These probably aren't orthogonal goals, but I'm pretty sure the iPhone 7 will be more water resistant, and not much thinner than the iPhone 6.
 
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I highly recommend the tiny Bose Bluetooth adapter, it's pricier than the cheapo Chinese adapters, but it works flawlessly, sounds great, and has a solid build quality.

https://www.amazon.com/Bose-727012-.../B00NTUEDMY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473206860

I believe you're missing the point. Lots of musicians are constantly plugging into whatever is around in various locations, from studio headphones, to mixing boards, to home stereos, to computers, to somebody else's car, etc., and carrying around some kind of adapter in my pocket every day is a non-starter. Plus, I also have some instrument interfaces that allow me to plug into the lighting port and then monitor via the 3.5mm plug, which will no longer be an option.
 
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I believe you're missing the point. Lots of musicians are constantly plugging into whatever is around in various locations, from studio headphones, to mixing boards, to home stereos, to computers, to somebody else's car, etc., and carrying around some kind of adapter in my pocket every day is a non-starter. Plus, I also have some instrument interfaces that allow me to plug into the lighting port and then monitor via the 3.5mm plug, which will no longer be an option.

If your whole life (apparently) revolves around the 3.5mm jack on your phone, then I guess the newest iPhone won't appeal to you, and you'll need to find an alternative.

But if you're expecting Apple to cater to the tech needs of musicians - the only remaining consumers of the vacuum tube - I wouldn't count on it.
 
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If your whole life (apparently) revolves around the 3.5mm jack on your phone, then I guess the newest iPhone won't appeal to you, and you'll need to find an alternative.

But if you're expecting Apple to cater to the tech needs of musicians - the only remaining consumers of the vacuum tube - I wouldn't count on it.

I was simply pointing out that you misunderstood 7enderbender's point. Either way, considering that Apple goes out of their way to promote that they're the brand for creative artists, from graphic design to film production to music, it doesn't seem out of bounds to think that catering to musicians is at least a little important to Apple.
 
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Personally I'm glad they get rid of it. Why? Now everyone will try to make the best bluetooth.
 
If your whole life (apparently) revolves around the 3.5mm jack on your phone, then I guess the newest iPhone won't appeal to you, and you'll need to find an alternative.

But if you're expecting Apple to cater to the tech needs of musicians - the only remaining consumers of the vacuum tube - I wouldn't count on it.


Its also video put out of the loop. We use 3.5 heavily as well. Studio monitors for starters for sound level adjustments. Mic's another one. . Some were using phones with mic as a hand recorder setup. FCP and logic pro, apple's last stands in the professional software realm and all that jazz...



I know, its just an adapter. Adapter can be a source of noise. And...well...with video and audio we carry enough of these really. Straw that breaks the camel's back potential scenario here. Why I will probably ride out my 6 till she dies. Its nice my monitors plug into it on breaks or waiting for doors to open (sometimes you have to be first in for the good spots for video).

I've had enough fun triple checking I have my 3.5 to XLR adapter for my 3rd party mic preamp amongst other cables and doo dads really. And that XLR adapter is biggish piece of metal lol. And yes, I have lost track of it at least once.

3.5 could also be waterproofed, this red herring bit gets old really. that and knowing divers, and the vast industry that is dive housings, when people who live for the water spend as much, if not more, for housings to wrap up electronics I am leaning to well...wrap your stuff up. If not in a housing they are "naked" devices but are dive rated. Its not just for meters under water...its to deal with prolonged (sea) water exposure.

The sea is fun, beautiful...and corrosive as hell lol. Not sure how hard apple went towards dealing with that last one tbh. or prolonged fresh water cleanings and intense wipe downs/PM's after. Even waterproofed/resistant I wouldn't rush in to take 4k vid of a snorkel run TBH. Go pro in its water housing...this is what I'd use tbh.
 
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I will only (barely) warm to it if they include (or even sell), a dongle so you can at least power it and use headphones. If they don't, it's bye bye iPhone, Hello Samsung.

I'll keep my present iPhone for the foreseeable future though.

In theory, it's not a bad idea to consolidate. But having owned a Macbook 12 with that single C port, it's actual utility is questionable
 
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