How is lightning jack not capable of simultaneous charging and data transfer?

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  1. jason0u macrumors newbie

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    If I can sync my phone and charge it at the same time through the lightning connector on my PC, why can you not charge and listen to music at the same time through the lightning connector with the Iphone 7? I imagine there is much more data transferring during a sync than just listening to an mp3.

    The fact that they got rid of the headphone jack is only an issue because people want to charge and listen at the same time, which IS NOT unreasonable to expect by the way. It seems to me that the fact that the lightning connector cannot handle a basic function such as this a few years after it was introduced, shows poor forward thinking and planning on apple's part.

    I foresee a new jack standard in Iphone's future.
     
  2. mollyc macrumors 6502

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    Because there is only one slot?? Belkin announced a Y adapter that will let people charge and listen at the same time.
     
  3. sdwaltz macrumors 6502

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    This.

    It's not that the technology isn't there, it's that what's plugged into the lightning port must be able to charge the phone AND be able to play music.

    I don't see anyone creating any lightning headphones that will be capable of charging a phone battery anytime soon ;)
     
  4. jason0u thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for your input molyc, but as I stated in my question, you can charge AND transfer data on your PC with the lighting connector at the same time, thats "one slot" too. My question was how data transfer is any different than music transfer. Also, if Belkin can provide a solution before people even have phones in hand, why did Apple not already provide a solution.
     
  5. rawlus macrumors 6502

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    So are you asking why headphones can't charge your phone while you listen to them? That is the equivalent of your macbook charging your phone while it syncs data with your phone.

    To do this, someone would need to develop headphones with a battery pack to deliver the charge to your phone.. as the other poster said, I don't see too many headphone manufacturers deciding to build battery packs into their headphones to charge a phone when connected.
     
  6. mollyc macrumors 6502

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    Because Apple doesn't like wires. They *can* make an adapter, they just didn't want to.
     
  7. elistan macrumors 6502a

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    You can't charge your phone and listen to music via lightning headphones at the same time because lightning headphones are not able to charge your phone.

    You can charge your phone and transfer data to your computer at the same time because your computer IS able to charge your phone.

    If you were to ever find a pair of headphones that contains a 2365 mAh battery, then you would indeed be able to charge your phone and listen to music through the headphones at the same time.
     
  8. Canadia69 macrumors regular

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    Lightning is capable of doing both...CarPlay plays my music, shows me my map, calls all while charging
     
  9. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    ...where are you expecting the power to come from? your headphones?
     
  10. mollyc macrumors 6502

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    Music "transfer" requires some sort of amplifier. You can use your computer as an amplifier. You can Airplay music to a stereo for an amplifier, all while having the lighting connector inserted and charging the phone.

    There is no limit in that way for the lightning connector. There is just *only one slot.*
     
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  12. jason0u thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You are all missing the point. If it is possible to do both, then all Apple would need to do is design the lightning headphones with a jumper jack (miniaturized Y-connector) to plug a power cable in, or a power cable with a jumper jack to plug a headphone in. Thought that was obvious....
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    Which sounds to me like a design shortcoming to the lightning port and connector, like I already stated.
     
  13. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    You really think it's a good idea to add a second line hanging off these cables for a use case that most people don't give two ***** about?

    Seriously?
     
  14. Binarymix macrumors 6502a

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    Because that would require a bulky connection to the phone. Until Apple adds wireless charging to the iPhone, you're best to use Bluetooth headphones while you charge your phone.
     
  15. mollyc macrumors 6502

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    Actually, I think you are missing the point.
     
  16. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    It seems like Apple is simply allowing third-party solutions for that, such as the "y-cable" that Belkin has already announced.

    Is it correct to assume that the lightning connection won't pass power and data at the same time?
    I think that assumption is not accurate.
    More accurate would be to state that Apple does not provide an adapter that allows you to do both at the same time.
    Other companies are stepping up, eh?
     
  17. zet- macrumors member

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    Lmao this thread is making my morning. Thanks for the laughs OP! :)
     
  18. jason0u thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You mean something similar to this? [​IMG]
    Ok buddy.
     
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    I think you're the one missing something actually. Someone already said that Belkin sells a splitter. So to answer your question, yes, it is possible.
     
  21. elistan macrumors 6502a

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    Apple can but chose not to and left it up to the aftermarket, like the Belkin device that was mentioned in the very first reply to your question. So I guess are more complete answer is that it IS possible to charge the phone and listen to lightning headphones at the same time, but not with the equipment supplied by Apple.
     
  22. mollyc macrumors 6502

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    That doesn't address the question you are asking though. ONE lighting port can do multiple functions, but SOUND does not come from a charger! Nor do wired headphones provide charging! Get a splitter. Apple wants the world to be wireless, so they aren't making an adapter. Someone else is.

    End of story.
     
  23. Binarymix macrumors 6502a

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    Um, yes, something like that exactly, but with two female lightening ports on the bottom.

    You want that hanging off your phone all the time?
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    Somebody just seems butthurt about the removal of the headphone jack.
     
  24. jason0u thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Actually, it does address the question I'm asking. You are too much on Apple's nuts to admit that all they would have to do is include something such as what they did with the 30 pin connector, and there wouldnt be all of this negative back lash. They did include a dongle for the head phone jack, so don't tell me its because they didn't want to provide adapters.
     
  25. mollyc macrumors 6502

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    You asked why one connector can't do multiple things.

    It CAN. That is the answer to your question. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it isn't the correct answer.
     

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