iPad How likely will Apple release an iPad with a stylus like the Note 10.1 2014?

hajime

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Hello, anybody heard anything? Also, will the iPad Pro include a stylus?
 

zhenya

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Highly, highly unlikely, on any tablet.

Fortunately the best stylii on the market today are very good. Have you tried anything better than the rubber bulbs?
 

Krazy Bill

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I don't understand why you're concerned about $10 stylus that you can buy separately today. Or perhaps you were asking if the iPad will be redesigned to better accommodate hand writing?
 

MisakixMikasa

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I don't understand why you're concerned about $10 stylus that you can buy separately today. Or perhaps you were asking if the iPad will be redesigned to better accommodate hand writing?
If you ever owning an Note device or used it or seen it on web site. You know Samsung put lots of Stylus optimization and apps for the S-pen. The user experience is just so fantastic according to users.

The $10 stylus aren't the best thing, they aren't accuract as S-pen. Without stylus digitizer, the writing experience is just horrifying.
 

nabwong

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We have an air, rmini and note 8. Specifically for stylus operation, there is nothing better than note 8. If you NEED to write a lot, especially annotating pdfs, go with the note 8. Otherwise, for casual writing not for productivity, go with ipad.
 

hajime

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I read that no stylus for the iPad can match the S-pen in the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I am torn between the iPad Air and Galaxy Note 10.1
 

nabwong

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I read that no stylus for the iPad can match the S-pen in the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I am torn between the iPad Air and Galaxy Note 10.1
If you ABSOLUTELY need the stylus for productivity, you should go for the note. For fun and media consumption, go iPad.
 

WaxedJacket

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If you ABSOLUTELY need the stylus for productivity, you should go for the note. For fun and media consumption, go iPad.
What does productivity actually mean? How can one be more productive than the other.

Especially considering there are stylists for both products. Your comment to me holds no water.
 

nabwong

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What does productivity actually mean? How can one be more productive than the other.

Especially considering there are stylists for both products. Your comment to me holds no water.
This tells me you have not used the s-pen.
 

zhenya

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I read that no stylus for the iPad can match the S-pen in the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I am torn between the iPad Air and Galaxy Note 10.1
A really good bluetooth stylus like the Adonit Jot Touch 4 is nearly as good as an active digitizer, with the right apps. I have a Surface Pro and I prefer, by and large, the writing experience on my iPad with Goodnotes and the Touch.

PDF markup is very good on the iPad in part because there are so many apps available to cater to every need. On Android or Windows right now, you get the digitizer, but the app selection is fairly narrow, and of those, there are few good ones, so you'd better like what you have.
 

hajime

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We have an air, rmini and note 8. Specifically for stylus operation, there is nothing better than note 8. If you NEED to write a lot, especially annotating pdfs, go with the note 8. Otherwise, for casual writing not for productivity, go with ipad.
Since you have these three platforms, perhaps you could let me know which one has App that is fully compatible with Power Point and Word? I want to annotate PowerPoint files and pdf files.

Somebody mentioned that apps for annotating and viewing pdf files on the iPad are better/faster than those on Android devices. Is this really true?

How is the overall GUI experience? Somebody mentioned about lag issue with the GNote 10.1 Others mentioned that after all the updates, the lag issue has been resolved.
 

Lucille Carter

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Hello, anybody heard anything? Also, will the iPad Pro include a stylus?
Only rumors but I have a friend who knows someone who lives near Apple and the iPad Pro will offer everything you want incuding OSX!

Just got to wait 3 qtr of 2014
 

nabwong

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How likely will Apple release an iPad with a stylus like the Note 10.1 2014?

Since you have these three platforms, perhaps you could let me know which one has App that is fully compatible with Power Point and Word? I want to annotate PowerPoint files and pdf files.



Somebody mentioned that apps for annotating and viewing pdf files on the iPad are better/faster than those on Android devices. Is this really true?



How is the overall GUI experience? Somebody mentioned about lag issue with the GNote 10.1 Others mentioned that after all the updates, the lag issue has been resolved.

We've only had the note a week and my wife has been the primary user. She's away on business with it but I can do a run down this weekend if that helps. Maybe YouTube for now?

I can tell you though that the ipad has a better feel to it, software wise. The android is a bit clunky. We only use it for the s-pen feature and not web surfing or movies, etc. so far we've used ezpdf. More to come.
 

zhenya

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Since you have these three platforms, perhaps you could let me know which one has App that is fully compatible with Power Point and Word? I want to annotate PowerPoint files and pdf files.

Somebody mentioned that apps for annotating and viewing pdf files on the iPad are better/faster than those on Android devices. Is this really true?

How is the overall GUI experience? Somebody mentioned about lag issue with the GNote 10.1 Others mentioned that after all the updates, the lag issue has been resolved.
On the iPad, popular apps that will work with those file types are Goodreader, iAnnotate, PDF Expert, and GoodNotes.

There are plenty of others as well.
 

Krazy Bill

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What does productivity actually mean? How can one be more productive than the other.

Especially considering there are stylists for both products. Your comment to me holds no water.
Other devices are specifically optimized for than hand writing recognition. The iPad isn't. Those apps that do exist for the iPad are mere aftermarket innovations making the stylus a mere extension of the finger. Apple had no intention of ever making a stylus-based product with the iPad. Steve Jobs actually laughed at the idea.

I've used 'em all and the iPad can't hold a candle to other non-ios devices in this department. That said, I do use a $10 app called, "WritePad". It does pretty well considering what the iPad really is. Maybe 65-70% accuracy for me which isn't bad. I pretty much compose all my lengthy writing with it and just copy and paste it to where I need it. (I'm a bit old-school I suppose).
 

TWO2SEVEN

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Only rumors but I have a friend who knows someone who lives near Apple and the iPad Pro will offer everything you want incuding OSX!

Just got to wait 3 qtr of 2014
What does living near Apple have to do with anything? Is your friend over there peeking through the windows?
 

zhenya

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Other devices are specifically optimized for than hand writing recognition. The iPad isn't. Those apps that do exist for the iPad are mere aftermarket innovations making the stylus a mere extension of the finger. Apple had no intention of ever making a stylus-based product with the iPad. Steve Jobs actually laughed at the idea.

I've used 'em all and the iPad can't hold a candle to other non-ios devices in this department. That said, I do use a $10 app called, "WritePad". It does pretty well considering what the iPad really is. Maybe 65-70% accuracy for me which isn't bad. I pretty much compose all my lengthy writing with it and just copy and paste it to where I need it. (I'm a bit old-school I suppose).
You haven't tried them all if that's the best you are getting. I have an iPad and a Surface Pro, yet it's the iPad that I have handwritten over 100 single-spaced pages on in the last month alone. Do you think I'd bother if I were struggling with 65% accuracy?
 

Krazy Bill

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You haven't tried them all if that's the best you are getting. I have an iPad and a Surface Pro, yet it's the iPad that I have handwritten over 100 single-spaced pages on in the last month alone. Do you think I'd bother if I were struggling with 65% accuracy?
WTF are you talking about? You use good notes. Do you even know what handwriting recognition is? I'm talking about converting what you write to actual text. Not scrawling hand written gibberish on the screen that can't be used in any other app.
 

zhenya

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WTF are you talking about? You use good notes. Do you even know what handwriting recognition is? I'm talking about converting what you write to actual text. Not scrawling hand written gibberish on the screen that can't be used in any other app.
Ah, I overlooked that word obviously. My mistake. I don't much care about the recognition aspect, just the ability to write neatly and clearly. :(
 

nabwong

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One factor to note is palm rejection which the note does well whereas on the iPad is still not mature.
 

Lucille Carter

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What does living near Apple have to do with anything? Is your friend over there peeking through the windows?
It has nothing to do with it. It was a joke.:) I would have put a smiley face on it but I did not think it would need it because it was so ridiculous no normal person would believe it.

Guess I was wrong!:p

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"I have a friend who knows someone who lives near Apple"
Solid source right there :rolleyes:
Yep and good thinking on your part. The statement I made was so ridiculous I did not think I needed to put a smiley next to it so you know I was joking. I forget I am in a Apple forum!:p
 

TWO2SEVEN

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It has nothing to do with it. It was a joke.:) I would have put a smiley face on it but I did not think it would need it because it was so ridiculous no normal person would believe it.

Guess I was wrong!:p

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Yep and good thinking on your part. The statement I made was so ridiculous I did not think I needed to put a smiley next to it so you know I was joking. I forget I am in a Apple forum!:p
:D

I just like the mental picture of some one climbing up the side of the building looking into the windows.
 
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