For once we are agreement. They were probably planning it long before others considered even implementing it.
Of course apple did......in your dream haha
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Of course apple did......in your dream haha
In a sense, yes. It's basically like how Pixar makes movies. At any one time, the company is working on multiple film projects, to be released at different intervals.Just like bezelless, big screen, waterproofing, widget, pulldown notification shade, folder etc are all also a logical progression that apple has planned 20 years ago
Take the bezel less design of the iPhone X for example. Apple has clearly been preparing for the removal of the home button for many years now, from Hey Siri with the 6s (2015), to the removal of the headphone jack (2016), to the introduction of AirPods. Anyone who has been following Apple news all along will have realised that it wasn't a question of if, but when Apple would pull the trigger.
So people who think that Apple saw the Essential phone design, decided to scrap whatever their existing iPhone design was in order to copy that, are clearly off their rocker, or don't understand how Apple works. Because of the scale at which Apple operates, everything has to be locked down way in advance so that time can be given for the company to work out their supply chain and logistics, which for products like the iPhone, can often take up to at least a year.
So yes, at this time, the design for the 2019 iPhone is already more or less settled and Apple is likely already starting to source for components, even as they get ready for this year's iPhone keynote.
Likewise, better waterproofing in iPhones was something that Apple had gradually been working their way up since the 6s as well (where it was water-resistant). Just that Apple only started making it official with the 7.
For larger screens, what likely happened is that Apple saw the trend as early as 2010-2011, but by then, the 4s was already scheduled to be announced, and the iPhone 5 form factor had already been more or less settled (which meant being locked in for another 2 years). So 2014 was really the soonest they could make it happen.
What I believe Apple is up to is that they have a multi-year roadmap in plan for products like the iPhone, where they have listed out what features they want each iteration to have. Take Force Touch for instance. It's clearly not something you can have some random intern crap out over lunch. It likely took many years of close cooperation between software and hardware engineering teams to make this feature possible. So while it debuted in 2015, Apple likely started commissioning it from as early as 2012.
Essentially, think of one giant timeline extending all the way to 2020 and beyond. Apple has probably already decided on the iPhone designs for the next couple of years, complete with what features they want them to have, and have already started working on those features (each of which are often multi-year endeavours in themselves). At the same time, Apple is also slowly laying the groundwork to make all these possible (like how Face ID will ultimately allow for you to control AR glasses via motions and gestures).
They seem pretty innocuous now, but when they all finally come together, it's a marvel to watch.
That's what makes Apple so amazing in my book.
They bought the workflow app last year so this has been a while in the planing.
The purchase was announced last summer so probably took place a few months before. Bixby debuted on the S8 in Feb 2018 but Samsung didn’t demo it / public having accesss to it (voice component) until April.
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Yes it does 4K at 60fps for 5 mins
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Don’t know about that.
Given the same lighting conditions.
The one plus and the phone x aren’t reflecting any glare but the curve on the note 9 and s9 are making the display look smaller.
Still the best screen though on the Samsung
They seem intent on discrediting Samsung and arguing. I’m an iPhone user but they are on my ignore list.Nobody is expecting you to switch platforms. But surely it isn't difficult to praise features not available on iOS/iPhone and admit you would like to see it on your chosen platform, rather "why would I do/want that"?
Seems the latest feature Apple will be copying, sorry implementing is the ability for Siri to run a string of commands with a simple "Good morning" type phrase. Thank Bixby for that
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I noticed the picture used was clever in not showing the impact of the notch
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That particular poster just seems intent on arguing with people. Seems to have been inactive since the intervention of the moderator yesterday, given that there has been plenty of stuff he would normally react to
Fine with apple roadmaps whatever they may be even though nobody knows what they are.
What about others who implementing those features way earlier than apple? They are laggard and copying apple? Samsung has been making phones since apple was in diapers.
So too were Nokia and Blackberry. Look at where they are today.Fine with apple roadmaps whatever they may be even though nobody knows what they are.
What about others who implementing those features way earlier than apple? They are laggard and copying apple? Samsung has been making phones since apple was in diapers.
When it comes to Samsung, I am not really convinced they have a long term vision for their phones, and it shows in the hodge-podge of features they cram into them. They make great hardware, but suck at software and their services are practically non-existent. This in turn limits the extent to which they can integrate their hardware with their software to create truly unique experiences.
For instance, the S4 came with the ability to control your phone with gestures, but it was poorly implemented, users in general just didn’t care, and you don’t hear Samsung talk about it these days.
The ironic thing is that Face ID is theoretically capable of doing the same thing (Apple seems to have a patent for controlling your phone with gestures as well), and it’s highly likely this will be one of the key ways in which users control their Apple glasses in the future. So while Samsung may technically have been first, it will likely be Apple who ends up redefining this area, simply because they did it better.
Apple is not perfect, but the steady progression of things like HomeKit, Apple Watch, etc show commitment to taking something basic and incrementally improving it, as opposed to other companies who just rush out a feature for the sake of marketing, and then forget about it in the next iteration.
To me, that’s what it boils down to. The huge difference between Apple and everyone else is really in the execution and follow through, and that in turn makes me more willing to invest in Apple’s ecosystem because I know they will continue to support it for the long haul.
Just like bezelless, big screen, waterproofing, widget, pulldown notification shade, folder etc are all also a logical progression that apple has planned 20 years ago
I didn’t say that at all. This a perfect example of the childish back and forth I am trying to avoid. I am fine with all of those things coming to Android first. At the same time, it would be pretty naive to act like Apple knew nothing about such features until Android implemented them and had no roadmap for any of them. For someone like me, I’m not sitting here worried about this feature or that feature and what came first.
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Yea I don’t know where in a timeline the idea came from or who came up with it first. That’s really not all that critical to me. If it was Bixby first, great. I just personally don’t know anything about Bixby or it’s features.
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s8 was launched in feb 2017 not 2018. So Bixby been around longer. However this shortcut capability has been around much much longer since s-voice (note3???) years ago.
Samsung galaxy s and note phones haven't been plastic since 2015. Glass and metal.
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Well iPhone x is limited by iOS. Android is a much more productive mobile OS than iOS.
Galaxy note 9 has an actual desktop mode.
That's not to say is better than the other. But android devices can do more.
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It was a typo sorry. I meant 2017.
I wouldn’t know if it was in s voice as I had it disabled from the original note onwards. S voice was even worse than Bixby. Bixby needs improvement but S voice was unusable.
During era of s-voice, there was no Siri. Just think about that. S-voice was not too intelligent due to its limited response. Just look at Siri now - it can't even do voice tag which s-voice can aeons ago.
There are so many other examples where apple is just following and not the innovator. Many ifans blindly believe everything that came out in iPhone are apple innovations when in fact there are not. Why this pattern with ifans? Maybe it is because Apple marketing keeps blowing its trumpet and spinning stories and ifans lapped it up blindly. Other manufacturers just innovate and deploy those functionalities to its customers then move on to the next one.
To me, there’s a difference between what a device is technically capable of, and what people actually end up using it for.
Dex sounds cool on paper. I guarantee you that nobody is going to use it for anything meaningful ever.
Until apple implements something like it...of course
We'll wait for all the red faces....again for the Nth times duh
Until apple implements something like it...of course
We'll wait for all the red faces....again for the nth times duh
Trust me. Apple is never going to do something like Dex.
Same tired rhetoric about big screen, widget, background tasks, multi window ...and the list goes on and on
Same tired rhetoric about big screen, widget, background tasks, multi window ...and the list goes on and on
So that’s your argument?
On the oft-chance that Apple might end up copying a crap feature like Dex (and Apple most assuredly won’t), everything android does that iOS doesn’t is great...just because?
Good for you, I guess.
Many bot fans blindly believe Samsung invented oled, wireless charging, water proofing, WiFi, cellular technology, sd cards, stylus etc. When Samsung comes out with it, it must have been invented by Samsung.
why this pattern with bot fans?Many bot fans blindly believe Samsung invented oled, wireless charging, water proofing, WiFi, cellular technology, sd cards, stylus etc. When Samsung comes out with it, it must have been invented by Samsung.
I never claimed Samsung invented those.
You just read with your apple glasses.I just said those capabilities were already out there long before apple implemented them. But of course, you would claimed apple is the first to come out with those ideas 20 years ago but hidden away so tightly that no one ever knew about them
I never claimed Samsung invented that.
I just say those capabilities already out there long before apple implemented them. But of course, you would claimed apple is the first to come out with that idea 20 years ago hidden away so tightly that no one ever knew about it
Why is it so important who introduced a feature first? Personally I’m more concerned with which features work best, iOS or Android. There are features on both ends that were introduced first and were pretty crappy. Then they get improved on both platforms. There will always be a give and take. In the end, customers choose which features work best and are more important for themselves. Everyone wins.
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I never claimed you claimed Samsung invented those. You read the post with your android tinted glasses.I never claimed Samsung invented those.
I just said those capabilities were already out there long before apple implemented them. But of course, you would claimed apple is the first to come out with those ideas 20 years ago but hidden away so tightly that no one ever knew about them
I’m just saying these capabilities were out long before android implemented them. But of course the bot fans would be the first to claim that android invented those technologies. But android implements them in a crappy way and as @DNichter points out, Apple cleans up the design and implementation.I never claimed you claimed Samsung invented those. You read the post with your android tinted glasses.
"Apple cleans up design".. This is really funny. Like how apple cleans up notification year after year by copying android...this year is grouping of notifications...
More like how apple set the benchmark for face id and touch id type technology; after android's crappy implementation.