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How the Mouse Pointer Deals with the Notch on the MacBook Pro
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Probably this does not change the colour of the icons/menu text automatically from black to white so it will not look too good or even quite unreadable.
Nobody seems to have caught on to the most disappointing aspect of this “notch” … Apple did not include a FACE ID module. A notch without FACE ID is just plain stupid. One step forward = Three steps backwards
A tiny black rectangle that lacks FACE ID is a dealbreaker…class is dismissed
Same here, I'm gaining an extra inch of screen over my 2013 15" with a nice 1080 camera, in the same form factor...... a notch is not an issue.
Macs will have it 4-5 years minimum, probably longer.
People will get used to it and stop talking about it in a few weeks, however.
Of course it travels behind the notch. Moving the cursor around the desktop isn’t becoming an obstacle run.
That's just the usual poor quality of writing at Macrumors, though. I doubt Apple's designers framed it like that in ANY way.
Most of the time, there are black bars at the top (where the notch is) and bottom of the screen. So shouldn’t be an issue
Maybe next time just check this before posting misinformation.
Of course the menu colors are adjusted.
It's not a question of screen real estate. It's a question of aesthetics and design. A notch, anywhere, in or on or through, anything, is a fudge.
What happens if you lose the transparency in the Accessibility settings, and then turn on Dark mode?
Open System Preferences > Accessibility > Display and select Reduce Transparency.
Yeah the suggestion it’s a handy hiding place for the mouse pointer wtf 😂
Not every news article needs an editorial “hot take”.
Why can’t they put camera in top as in Dell XPS? https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/laptops/15-new/spd/xps-15-9510-laptop
MBP with XDR screen withou notch would look so much cleaner.
MBP with XDR screen withou notch would look so much cleaner.
The difference is in 2030 we will still be talking about the Notch.Not gonna happen
2020: Covid 19
2021: "The Notch"
You can hate on the notch as much as you want from an aesthetic standpoint, but not in any logical one from a usage POV.
The old 16” screen was 16:10.
The new 16” one is 16:10 *below the notch*. So everything full screen is just as good. There’s no notch in any area where you wouldn’t have had one on the last gen. But also this has more vertical pixels each side of the notch to give you more vertical space and is hence 16.2” and thus a bigger screen. There’s more space! Where the menu bar now lives. Nothing is lost, only gained. Bigger screen vertically and a better camera in a smaller package.
So you can complain all you like it’s fugly or distracting or horrible or annoying, but you can’t complain it’s in any way a reduction in usability or screen real-estate, it’s a win-win in all functional ways, so stop arguing it’s a loss from a function or space point of view.
Don’t forget that this new “bonus area” each side of the notch also has rounded top corners, so that additional strip of screen real estate above the preserved “sacred 16:10 rectangle” would have buggered corners if you were trying to use it for more than your menu anyway! Obviously the bottom corners are perfectly square because that’s the “sacred 16:10 rectangle” area.
If you wanna keep arguing you hate it or it’s ugly, or off-putting or offends your eye visually though, then carry on. That opinion is perfectly valid point of view. But it’s not valid to say it’s somehow taken some of your screen away or removed anything other than your aesthetic love of uninterrupted rectangles.
Also be sure to keep validly moaning they should have fitted FaceID in that space. But again, you still haven’t actually lost anything functionally over any previous MacBook, only gained a better camera than before.
It’s flat out better. Just may or may not be aesthetically challenging depending on your personal taste. And In some cases that’s too challenging for the benefits it gives you. But it’s a good thing for the don’t care either way folks, only bad for people who find it more visually offensive than the benefits it brings (and a wonderful thing for the weirdos who actually like notches for pleasure, regardless of functionality).
The old 16” screen was 16:10.
The new 16” one is 16:10 *below the notch*. So everything full screen is just as good. There’s no notch in any area where you wouldn’t have had one on the last gen. But also this has more vertical pixels each side of the notch to give you more vertical space and is hence 16.2” and thus a bigger screen. There’s more space! Where the menu bar now lives. Nothing is lost, only gained. Bigger screen vertically and a better camera in a smaller package.
So you can complain all you like it’s fugly or distracting or horrible or annoying, but you can’t complain it’s in any way a reduction in usability or screen real-estate, it’s a win-win in all functional ways, so stop arguing it’s a loss from a function or space point of view.
Don’t forget that this new “bonus area” each side of the notch also has rounded top corners, so that additional strip of screen real estate above the preserved “sacred 16:10 rectangle” would have buggered corners if you were trying to use it for more than your menu anyway! Obviously the bottom corners are perfectly square because that’s the “sacred 16:10 rectangle” area.
If you wanna keep arguing you hate it or it’s ugly, or off-putting or offends your eye visually though, then carry on. That opinion is perfectly valid point of view. But it’s not valid to say it’s somehow taken some of your screen away or removed anything other than your aesthetic love of uninterrupted rectangles.
Also be sure to keep validly moaning they should have fitted FaceID in that space. But again, you still haven’t actually lost anything functionally over any previous MacBook, only gained a better camera than before.
It’s flat out better. Just may or may not be aesthetically challenging depending on your personal taste. And In some cases that’s too challenging for the benefits it gives you. But it’s a good thing for the don’t care either way folks, only bad for people who find it more visually offensive than the benefits it brings (and a wonderful thing for the weirdos who actually like notches for pleasure, regardless of functionality).
No issue with it as long as I don't have to watch video with a notch-sized shape missing, then I'm fine with it on any of my devices. If it's not interfering and I get more real estate, then it is great.
Apple just needs to ship it with it black all the way across and not advertise that as part of the screen resolution and then have people figure out a "hack" to enable it and then everyone will be all about it!
