Not really.
Building it in so your mouse can get stuck going from one side of the screen to the other would have been terrible.
Agreed. Finding a pointer is no big deal. You do it all the time, notch or not. Just start moving the mouse around.
Not really.
Building it in so your mouse can get stuck going from one side of the screen to the other would have been terrible.
I keep seeing people say this. I must be using my Macbook Pro wrong. In my case, this space is used most of the time."the middle of the menu bar is totally unused space"
Here’s a better idea…
The mouse point zaps/teleports tot he opposite side when just about to pass the notch. Seem less intuitive and predictable.
I imagine screenshots will be handled just like on the iPhone. Won't show the notch...I can see many advantages to hiding the mouse behind the notch.
But now I have to wonder, will screenshots show the notch, or reveal the hidden space behind it?
More accurately, the touchbar never lived.So, touchbar is officially dead?
No it wont, it doesn't show the notch on iphone screenshots so it will probably be the same on the mac as well.Ohhh, good question. Man that'll screw up a whole lot of enablement content.
Zoom meetings too....
It'll reveal the space behind it - just like a screengrab on the iPhones.I can see many advantages to hiding the mouse behind the notch.
But now I have to wonder, will screenshots show the notch, or reveal the hidden space behind it?
I have no issues with the notch.
I absolutely don't understand all the notch haters who outdo each other at finding ever more extreme ways to express their disdain for the notch. I mean, seriously, how much can you hate such a relatively insignificant detail
It still seems ludicrous to me that people are complaining about getting more screen real estate.
If you have the choice between no notch with less screen real estate and a notch that can either allow for more screen real estate or look the same as if it weren't there, then the latter has only advantages and no disadvantages. The notch is all upside, no downside.
This is the only way to have a good 1080p webcam without a thick ugly forehead bezel with wasted space. Best solution because of camera physics I'd imagine.Why ruin that beautiful new screen with a notch? Seems like a very poor decision.
Apps never show their content in the notch / menu bar area. They just appear in the safe area below the notch. in normal windowed app view, the menu is in the notch area and the content is below. In full screen mode, the app’s content is in the safe area below the notch. The menu area is black. If you move the cursor to the menu area the menu appears. It’s a fairly elegant way to handle things. This even makes full screen mode better because it is easy to access the menus if you want to. I’ve seen a lot of users that triggered full screen mode before and then didn’t know how to get out and could not find a menu to let them do so. This is better.If they make the mouse see the notch then moving around the top of the screen and hitting it when you don't want to will be dumb design. If they keep it the way it works now and you don't know where your mouse is because its behind the notch, its dumb design. Someones going to come up with an app that has its menu hidden behind that notch, that's dumb UI. How about the give the user an option (gasp) to have the screen go down past the notch on a per app basis. That way the notch isn't a problem when your in the app you don't want the notch in. But that would be too easy a solution and opens up apple to screen burn in problems. I don't care, its the price they pay for not thinking things through and just having the users put up with whatever they do. Just make settings where the user can make their screen work any way they want.
Yes, automatic teleporting like that would be much less intuitive, though it could be a little game that you and the mouse play with the notch. 😊
Apps never show their content in the notch / menu bar area. They just appear in the safe area below the notch. in normal windowed app view, the menu is in the notch area and the content is below. In full screen mode, the app’s content is in the safe area below the notch. The menu area is black. If you move the cursor to the menu area the menu appears. It’s a fairly elegant way to handle things. This even makes full screen mode better because it is easy to access the menus if you want to. I’ve seen a lot of users that triggered full screen mode before and then didn’t know how to get out and could not find a menu to let them do so. This is better.
There will never be menu items covered by the notch. The OS draws the menus, not apps. It knows where the notch is. If an app has many more menus than most, the OS will just skip that area and finish drawing the menu items on the other side. That will usually be seldom used menus like Window and Help, anyway.
The mouse pointer should just ignore the notch. It is an area that the point can move past or through but should not block the pointer or cause it to do weird jumping actions. It’s just a non-clickable area. If you have a second monitor above the MPB screen you don’t want to have to dodge around the notch. It’s just a blank part of the screen. You’re mouse is not going to get lost behind the notch in any significant way. If you have moved the pointer to that location, you know where it is. If you forget, we all just move the mouse around anyway and then you’ll see the pointer. It’s not a black hole.
I think we should all take a breath and move on. If you get a chance to play with one of these new MBPs, try it out and I think you’ll see that Apple actually has thought through how this works and knows how to make this something we can live with. If it is like the notch on the phone, most of us soon start ignoring it anyway.
Eventually they may figure out a way to have the camera behind the screen and won’t need the notch anymore, but that technology is not ready yet and i think this is a reasonable compromise for now to give more screen space and a better zoom camera.