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So,... Either you are still buying CDs or you only listen to very old music. Assuming you are not a dinosaur, still listening only to oldies then the cost of a few CDs a month is more than the cost of Apple Music.

Actually, I do know someone like this. He is pretty much stuck in the late '70s and early '80s and listens to the same 20 or 40 hits from that era, over and over and over again. Someone like that really has no need for subscriptions.

I've got a year of free Apple music because I bought both a Homepod and a Mac. I may just buy one or more new Homepods. They work well with Homekit. I might never have to actually buy a music subscription
You can’t buy music on iTunes anymore?
 
I’m not singling out any particular demographic. How many people in this thread and the Netflix thread have said:”I can afford this but…” I don’t think being hyperbolic about this is the way to go, but that’s me.

If people want this service and it’s worth it to them, then they will find a way to absorb the price increase.
People are allowed to complain when things get more expensive.
 
"You do know that..."

Cracks me up when people start a response with a very pretentious, "You do know that..."

It's a great warning that everything that follows is foolish prattle.
It cracks me up when people single out a few words from a response without addressing anything that was actually said.

It’s a great indicator that they didn’t have anything worth saying.
 
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If people want this service and it’s worth it to them, then they will find a way to absorb the price increase.
The problem is that almost everything has gone up and continues to go up year after year. At some point you have to decide what you can justify keeping and what you should cut loose.

For me personally, I wasn't using most of the services included with Apple One Premier so I'd rather drop down to a plan that I do use, like the 2TB iCloud+ plan.

Had Apple not increased the price of Apple One Premier, I would have kept it longer. But two price hikes in the past two years has me deciding that it just isn't worth it to me to keep anymore.

And that is the question Apple is going to have to ask itself, was it worth the price hike if it means people like me are going to cut their spending by 2/3? Going from $400 a year to now only getting $120 a year from me?

Maybe Apple isn't going to care that they are losing my $280 per year... idk. All I know is that I'm not going to miss having AOP.
 
So,... Either you are still buying CDs or you only listen to very old music. Assuming you are not a dinosaur, still listening only to oldies then the cost of a few CDs a month is more than the cost of Apple Music.

Actually, I do know someone like this. He is pretty much stuck in the late '70s and early '80s and listens to the same 20 or 40 hits from that era, over and over and over again. Someone like that really has no need for subscriptions.

I've got a year of free Apple music because I bought both a Homepod and a Mac. I may just buy one or more new Homepods. They work well with Homekit. I might never have to actually buy a music subscription
I had a couple free trials for Apple Music, what it told me “I’d like” based on the songs in my libary (ripped music from vinyl and CDs) was pure garbage, I really don’t need any service to “curate” music for me…
 
Cancelled.

They moved from the category of "I don't watch often but its convenient" to "WTF am I paying for this for the 11 months of a year I don't watch it"..... just like Netflix did 3 years ago. Heck, I've never returned to Netflix even to temporarily watch it.
 
If people want this service and it’s worth it to them, then they will find a way to absorb the price increase.

Exactly.

Also... If someone can't handle an AppleTV+ subscription increase of 8 cents per day, I suspect they shouldn't be splurging on an AppleTV+ subscription to begin with. And should be thinking about more important things like purchasing better or more food (just as an example), or paying the heating bill to stay a little warmer in the winter.
 
What a bizarre response, as if iCloud is the only way to backup your phone. I wonder what we all did before iCloud.
Before cloud backups were a lot smaller. Also maybe you didn't have a iPhone with tons of apps/photos/music but in the old days you had to have a computer with enough storage and then wait 30 minutes plus for your phone to sync. As someone else said its all about time and how much your time is worth.

Offsite backup? Yeah you then copied the data to another drive then drove it to a remote location for safekeeping.

So 2TB phone you need a computer with 2TB dedicated to your backup then you need a 2TB external drive then you need a safe place to keep the drive. How valuable is your data? How often are you going to do this? Weekly? Monthly? You also need to regularly check the external drive for signs of failure or it's quite pointless. How often are you replacing it?

Let's not forget prior to this year this was all over USB2.0. Still is on some models.

Like I said I am 100% not against doing backups on your own. It's just not the money saver people make it out to be if you value your time and actually do backups properly. There are many that say one offsite copy isn't enough.

Paying to have encrypted backups on enterprise level redundant storage isn't the end of the world. The hardware doesn't come cheap but there is no magic way an end user can get anywhere near that type of storage array with a offsite pair without paying significantly more than 2TB of iCloud storage.
 
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Hey, Millennials? How's that cord cutting working out for ya? You now have 36 different services charging a minimum of $9.99 a month.

Which comes to about $360 a month....or more expensive than cable was before you all decided to cord cut.

So, again.....how is that cord cutting working out?
 
Hey, Millennials? How's that cord cutting working out for ya? You now have 36 different services charging a minimum of $9.99 a month.

Which comes to about $360 a month....or more expensive than cable was before you all decided to cord cut.

So, again.....how is that cord cutting working out?
No cord-cutter is paying for 36 different services.

The point of cord cutting is to cut out the services/content you don't want and only pay for the ones you do.

If someone wants cable or live tv, they'll pay for it whether it is streaming or not.

The difference is that they can choose the provider (whether it is based on price or offerings or brand) when it comes to streaming live tv.

I don't see how that is a negative.
 
What?! Apple's subscription went up? A whopping increase of over 40%? That's nuts! Okay, I guess I'm canceling my Adobe subscription... Adobe: Please don't go! I'll even offer you the newbie price to keep you around...
 
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AppleTV+ is the only subscription I use and it's covered by T-Mobile, along with Netflix, so I plan to keep it. I tried Apple Music and did like it except it kept messing with my iTunes Music Library and I will never use it again because of that. If I didn't have TV+ through T-Mo I'd probably just subscribe for one month after shows I like (Foundation) had finished airing and binge the entire season in a day or two.
 
I've canceled Apple One as well. Just paying for storage once the current subscription expires.

I'd be fine with moving away from Apple Music but it's so painful moving from one service to another with all the playlists I've created. Those "importer" apps never pick the correct songs and I end up with playlists of covers or kidz bop lol
 
No cord-cutter is paying for 36 different services.

The point of cord cutting is to cut out the services/content you don't want and only pay for the ones you do.

If someone wants cable or live tv, they'll pay for it whether it is streaming or not.

The difference is that they can choose the provider (whether it is based on price or offerings or brand) when it comes to streaming live tv.

I don't see how that is a negative.
AppleTV+
Disney+
Max (Formerly HBO Max)
Netflix
Youtube Premium/Etc
Hulu
ESPN+
Amazon Prime Video
Paramount+
Peacock
Funimation
Crunchyroll
Foxnews Subscription
CNN Subscription
MSNBC Subscription
Sirius
XM
Twitter (Formerly X) Blue
Doordash
Uber/Eats

Cable Monthly Subscription
Cell Phone Bill


Tell me you have less than half of these.
 
AppleTV+
Disney+
Max (Formerly HBO Max)
Netflix
Youtube Premium/Etc
Hulu
ESPN+
Amazon Prime Video
Paramount+
Peacock
Funimation
Crunchyroll
Foxnews Subscription
CNN Subscription
MSNBC Subscription
Sirius
XM
Twitter (Formerly X) Blue
Doordash
Uber/Eats

Cable Monthly Subscription
Cell Phone Bill


Tell me you have less than half of these.
i have Apple One Premier, Amazon Prime, Doordash, xFinity Internet-only, and I pay about $30 for my T-Mobile line.

Seriously, do you think everyone's paying for all that at once?
 
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Exactly.

Also... If someone can't handle an AppleTV+ subscription increase of 8 cents per day, I suspect they shouldn't be splurging on an AppleTV+ subscription to begin with. And should be thinking about more important things like purchasing better or more food (just as an example), or paying the heating bill to stay a little warmer in the winter.
Thank you for finally just putting into words that you think poor people don't deserve to enjoy anything but food and shelter. At least you're being honest with us.
 
I was just looking into upgrading the iCloud storage. The site says you can pay more and increase your iCloud storage on the Apple One plans. Is that not the case?

Personally, I don't play games so it's a waste of money to pay $6.99 for Arcade when I'll never use it. It's too bad they think everyone plays games.
Oh I didn’t know if that was an option I haven’t been able to find that out, I may be interested in that.
 
AppleTV+
Disney+
Max (Formerly HBO Max)
Netflix
Youtube Premium/Etc
Hulu
ESPN+
Amazon Prime Video
Paramount+
Peacock
Funimation
Crunchyroll
Foxnews Subscription
CNN Subscription
MSNBC Subscription
Sirius
XM
Twitter (Formerly X) Blue
Doordash
Uber/Eats

Cable Monthly Subscription
Cell Phone Bill


Tell me you have less than half of these.
I feel like I have too many subscriptions, and after my Apple One ends, I will have subscriptions to 8 of the items on this list. I'd have fewer but I am unable to convince my wife that we don't need Netflix and Max lol
 
I actually like Apple News+ for the magazines. There are some excellent British music and media-related publications that are densely-filled with useful content (Future Music, Computer Music, ImagineFX, etc., even History of War), I think mostly put out by Future Publishing. It's just every other Apple service that is not so great, in my opinion. Their own TV shows are so bland, though. Look at the Jon Stewart fiasco. And Apple Music's interface, which I only really use on the Mac desktop, is terrible. Arcade+ games are weak (I have an Xbox and a high-end PC for games). Everything Apple does is very generic and mainstream. I'll probably be jettisoning Apple One after this price hike. Don't use the Fitness stuff. Or Cloud+, either, despite being on my Mac all day and using it for work stuff.
 
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Thank you for finally just putting into words that you think poor people don't deserve to enjoy anything but food and shelter. At least you're being honest with us.
Seriously? I thought no such thing.

That's coming out of your mouth. And is called projection.

I suspect you may not realize that those who you categorize as "poor people" might have different life priorities than yourself. I wouldn't be shocked if that never occurred to you.
 
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I am sure that Apple calculated their margins. With the price hike they will definitely lose some customers, but also will make it up from the price increase of services.

Unfortunately, I don’t think any of their services are groundbreaking, or offering tremendous value for the up-charge. Only true service worth having when you are in Apple’s ecosystem is iCloud. It makes it easy for backups of the whole family.

Of course this is all opinion based right?

AppleMusic — I find Spotify/YouTube Music better.
AppleNews — too many ads, too little news. I can get ads for free on a lot of other news apps/websites.
AppleArcade — why play on phone when there are a lot better mediums and free like (Switch/Xbox/PS5/Gaming PC).
AppleFitness — would be better to have gym membership/in person classes than watch videos at home.
AppleTV — finally big preference here. I get couple services for free, but why limit yourself to one service or any of them. Get yourself Plex and pay $10-$16/Month for private server with Discord bot and you can have any movie/tv show at any time.

Longtime Apple Ecosystem user here, but we don’t need to drink their services Kool-aid. I do hope that their price hikes backfire and they start lowering prices, but even at current prices, it’s hard to justify any of their services other than iCloud.
 
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