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I am extrapolating a further possibility - Apple will create an interent phone service to bypass all that satellite dancing with expensive phone companies. People could now use wi-fi areas to communicate easily anywhere in the world and avoid all the little kingdoms of cost.

It wouldn't avoid any cost really.

1. You'd still have to charge for calls outside your network. Most VOIP companies already have free calls within their network.
2. The real cost isn't VOIP itself but Wifi - Anything between £3 and £10 an hour - payable in one hour chunks. One day I'll find this mythical beast 'free wifi' but never have yet.
3. That's if you can find wifi, and it is actually working, and they've not blocked everything but port 80. Hotels seem to delight in having the most hideous firewalling policies they can dream up.
4. Since when have apple *ever* done anything cheap?
 
I've used free wifi dozens of times in office buildings, restaurants, airports, etc.

You've NEVER found free wifi spots? You really need to look harder - they're everywhere.
 
I've used free wifi dozens of times in office buildings, restaurants, airports, etc.

You've NEVER found free wifi spots? You really need to look harder - they're everywhere.

if i walk like a km into the city i find a free wifi spot like every 50 meters...
 
No. No chance. You have to be connected to a wi-fi network to even possibly make voip calls. Nobody would replace their phone with this.

I would!! During the week, I'm always at college where there is a WIFI network or at home where there is one too...

Perfect world!!
 
1G Touch Microphone Support?

So will it work with a 1G iPodTouch too?


Microphone support would be nice. I'd like to use JOTT, voice notes and Skype (if AT&T ever lets Apple include it -- not likely).
 
This is pretty sweet. I know the touchmods guy made an ipod Touch mic that plugged in the dock connector and required a jailbroken iPod, but this appears to work natively through the headphone port and without jailbreaking!

Touchmods did a whole lot more than just make a microphone. They also released two FREE applications that allow VoIP calls to be made over both the iPod touch and the iPhone.

For the past 8 months, I've been using my iPod touch to place VoIP calls from Japan to the United States on a daily basis.
 
Thinking not is of as much value as thinking so, except there is a possibility, a great opportunity, for Apple to make money using their M.O. if they are preparing to create a phone-data service.

Yes opinions don't matter unless you know someone's past experience well enough to trust them. So lets get down to the actual reasoning :). Anyway I agree there's a great possibility and opportunity for Apple to do some great VoIP stuff. No argument there.

Although it's a great opportunity which I'd love to see happen, what I disagree with is that the iPodTouch is evidence that Apple is doing something. We're describing a back door way of making this work, cobbling together a solution Apple will use the front door if they do it. It's certainly well within their reach to announce a really cool product set at MacWorld...
.... but for now, if they were planning on software enabling the iPod Touch they would have put the speaker near the ear and added a microphone at the base. For most people its not viable to take a bluetooth stereo headset, connect to the iPod touch via modded firmware & software (to change the Nike+ chip), and then run an app on the iPod Touch (in the background?) to get a working VoIP phone.
 
so someone will make a Voip app for it over WiFi ;)

voip phone calls on your ipod touch 2g. lol cool
 
Yes opinions don't matter unless you know someone's past experience well enough to trust them. So lets get down to the actual reasoning :). Anyway I agree there's a great possibility and opportunity for Apple to do some great VoIP stuff. No argument there.

Although it's a great opportunity which I'd love to see happen, what I disagree with is that the iPodTouch is evidence that Apple is doing something. We're describing a back door way of making this work, cobbling together a solution Apple will use the front door if they do it. It's certainly well within their reach to announce a really cool product set at MacWorld...
.... but for now, if they were planning on software enabling the iPod Touch they would have put the speaker near the ear and added a microphone at the base. For most people its not viable to take a bluetooth stereo headset, connect to the iPod touch via modded firmware & software (to change the Nike+ chip), and then run an app on the iPod Touch (in the background?) to get a working VoIP phone.

You can stick any 3.5mm headset into the headphone jack and use it as a microphone and headphones. So VoIP is a definite yes, just not without a headset. Apple is actually coming out with two for the iPod Touch themselves!

BTW- Why are you going on about adding things and using Bluetooth? You know a headset works as headphones and a microphone, right? :confused:
 
You can stick any 3.5mm headset into the headphone jack and use it as a microphone and headphones. So VoIP is a definite yes, just not without a headset. Apple is actually coming out with two for the iPod Touch themselves!
I think it's great they allow it. I'm now wondering about background apps (ie: can you get phone calls).

BTW- Why are you going on about adding things and using Bluetooth? You know a headset works as headphones and a microphone, right? :confused:
I was replying to "Lesser Evets" who was asking why Apple added Bluetooth and presuming a greater plan. However, I confused this with the post above by "br0adband" who was talking about bluetooth stereo headphones with Mic at MacWorld.

I'm not anti the ideas, and I agree VoIP could be very effective and is very close to what is being offered - but it's too big a leap with the current products for Apple to have it as their hidden plan... too kludgy. Not with the current products anyway... hope to see something better of course.
 
ill be more excited when i see line in recording supported from the firmware or alternate firmware so i can have 8 or 16gb of space to record aiff of my mates bands, mixes etc from the soundboard or hook up an external powered mic for quality recording
 
I was replying to "Lesser Evets" who was asking why Apple added Bluetooth and presuming a greater plan. However, I confused this with the post above by "br0adband" who was talking about bluetooth stereo headphones with Mic at MacWorld.

I'm not anti the ideas, and I agree VoIP could be very effective and is very close to what is being offered - but it's too big a leap with the current products for Apple to have it as their hidden plan... too kludgy. Not with the current products anyway... hope to see something better of course.

Oh, I get it now. :D Yeah, I agree with you! :)
 
Amazing

More proof why the iPod Touch 2G is the best mp3 player on the market. I just got one, this thing is great, only thing missing is the phone, not anymore!
 
VOIP Aside, Music Recording

Without reading this whole thread, shigzeo is the first person I see pointing out what excited me about this. Recording bands, songwriting, demoing, field recording... this is what I find great about this. There is even a simple 4-track recording app on the app store for iphone that maybe now would work on the touch? I hope someone makes a nice mic to use with the touch.
 
Skype IPT : The KILLER APPLICATION

I think yer right. I remember my old iPods, and none of them could do it with just the headphones jack. MACRUMORS GUYS- POST THIS ALREADY! :D:p

I have refrained from buying an iPod touch because the 1G model did not have a microphone compatible with Skype... Now that the 2G iPod touch has it I am positioning myself to buying one as soon as a Skype application becomes available...

It was about time that Apple provided this functionality as Wi-Fi spots are spreading rapidly... Making local locals and international calls (at the low Skype rates) is a great added value... I believe that unless "money is no object" it would not be justifiable to buy an iPhone and ditch some $3,000 over a 3 year contract with AT&Tjust to benefit from better coverage possible through cellular transmission... Grant you the iPhone has GPS (but iPod can have maps with close enough localization), as for the "missing camera" a 2 megapixels was already too little with the 1st Generation...

I guess if I would wait another year, GPS could get incorporated Plus who knows a better camera...

All in all I consider the microphone inclusion as the MOST IMPORTANT addition to 2G iPod Tocuch, plus of course the $100 reduction (on the 16 GB, and 32 Gb models)... I think the 16 GB would be enough for me... -)
 
It wouldn't avoid any cost really.

1. You'd still have to charge for calls outside your network. Most VOIP companies already have free calls within their network.
2. The real cost isn't VOIP itself but Wifi - Anything between £3 and £10 an hour - payable in one hour chunks. One day I'll find this mythical beast 'free wifi' but never have yet.
3. That's if you can find wifi, and it is actually working, and they've not blocked everything but port 80. Hotels seem to delight in having the most hideous firewalling policies they can dream up.
4. Since when have apple *ever* done anything cheap?

well cable vision is offering free wifi in my town 2 their subscribers (which we are anyway :):):))
 
Speaking of GPS on iPod Touch, wasn't there a dongle type of GPS that someone developed? I wonder what happened to it.:confused:
 
Recording on an ipod touch.

Hello,

I have a new 8GB ipod touch. I have no idea how to use it properly yet, but the one thing I would find it would be really useful for, would be recording music. I'm a musician, and am constantly recording ideas, other musicians, bits of tunes, and would love to use the ipod touch for this.

Can anyone explain in REALLY simple terms how i can do this (and i mean simple)

I've had a look at the Palringo app, and can't access it as i have no itunes account (and no credit card to register). Any way around this?

Thank you!
 
why doesnt shazam update its program :/

Even if they heard about this, it still seems to take a minimum of 3 days for developers to update/make changes to their apps on the App Store. Just wait for it, I'm sure it will come eventually! :)
 
music recording on ipod

there is one program that you should look into... although it looks like you might not be able to save what you record?! But the developer says they are working on that so maybe they could give you an answer as to when that will be the case. BUT, it's called 4 Tracks Lite and is basically a 4 track recorder for the touch. Check it out...

It's hard to call something a recorder when it won't save, but with a save feature I will be all over this one.
Other than that the biggest problem I see is a microphone. I was thinking about taking a generic headset/mic, cutting the cable, and splitting it off to two 1/8" female connectors (one headphone the other mic). I have a xlr>1/8" mic cable so I could use a 57 or whatever to record instead of some nasty computer voice mic. I wonder if that is already made.....
 
there is one program that you should look into... although it looks like you might not be able to save what you record?! But the developer says they are working on that so maybe they could give you an answer as to when that will be the case. BUT, it's called 4 Tracks Lite and is basically a 4 track recorder for the touch. Check it out...

It's hard to call something a recorder when it won't save, but with a save feature I will be all over this one.
Other than that the biggest problem I see is a microphone. I was thinking about taking a generic headset/mic, cutting the cable, and splitting it off to two 1/8" female connectors (one headphone the other mic). I have a xlr>1/8" mic cable so I could use a 57 or whatever to record instead of some nasty computer voice mic. I wonder if that is already made.....


No, it's just like all the other microphone implementing apps other than Spectrum and Palringo- iPhone only.

If it wasnt for iTunes 8, we could still install those on our iPod Touches, but 8 stops you from installing apps that say only "Compatible with iPhone" under compatibility section of the description in the App Store. Sorry to let you down.
 
Speaking of GPS on iPod Touch, wasn't there a dongle type of GPS that someone developed? I wonder what happened to it.:confused:

I think you may be referring to GSP Tracker.

I believe that unless "money is no object" it would not be justifiable to buy an iPhone and ditch some $3,000 over a 3 year contract with AT&Tjust to benefit from better coverage possible through cellular transmission... Grant you the iPhone has GPS

Deciding whether to get the touch or the phone goes way deeper than the GPS receiver. You have to realize that no matter how good Skype is the average cell phone buyer isn't going to want to drive around looking for open wifi hotspots to call home about dinner. Although a service like Skype would be a nice addition to the ipod touch it just isn't going be a deciding factor for the vast majority of buyers. (when deciding between the phone or touch)

Just about everyone I know owns a cell phone but I can't imagine even one of them give up their cell phone for a skype enabled device no matter how much it'll save them.
 
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