I am extrapolating a further possibility - Apple will create an interent phone service to bypass all that satellite dancing with expensive phone companies. People could now use wi-fi areas to communicate easily anywhere in the world and avoid all the little kingdoms of cost.
I've used free wifi dozens of times in office buildings, restaurants, airports, etc.
You've NEVER found free wifi spots? You really need to look harder - they're everywhere.
No. No chance. You have to be connected to a wi-fi network to even possibly make voip calls. Nobody would replace their phone with this.
So will it work with a 1G iPodTouch too?
Microphone support would be nice. I'd like to use JOTT, voice notes and Skype (if AT&T ever lets Apple include it -- not likely).
This is pretty sweet. I know the touchmods guy made an ipod Touch mic that plugged in the dock connector and required a jailbroken iPod, but this appears to work natively through the headphone port and without jailbreaking!
Thinking not is of as much value as thinking so, except there is a possibility, a great opportunity, for Apple to make money using their M.O. if they are preparing to create a phone-data service.
Yes opinions don't matter unless you know someone's past experience well enough to trust them. So lets get down to the actual reasoning. Anyway I agree there's a great possibility and opportunity for Apple to do some great VoIP stuff. No argument there.
Although it's a great opportunity which I'd love to see happen, what I disagree with is that the iPodTouch is evidence that Apple is doing something. We're describing a back door way of making this work, cobbling together a solution Apple will use the front door if they do it. It's certainly well within their reach to announce a really cool product set at MacWorld...
.... but for now, if they were planning on software enabling the iPod Touch they would have put the speaker near the ear and added a microphone at the base. For most people its not viable to take a bluetooth stereo headset, connect to the iPod touch via modded firmware & software (to change the Nike+ chip), and then run an app on the iPod Touch (in the background?) to get a working VoIP phone.
I think it's great they allow it. I'm now wondering about background apps (ie: can you get phone calls).You can stick any 3.5mm headset into the headphone jack and use it as a microphone and headphones. So VoIP is a definite yes, just not without a headset. Apple is actually coming out with two for the iPod Touch themselves!
I was replying to "Lesser Evets" who was asking why Apple added Bluetooth and presuming a greater plan. However, I confused this with the post above by "br0adband" who was talking about bluetooth stereo headphones with Mic at MacWorld.BTW- Why are you going on about adding things and using Bluetooth? You know a headset works as headphones and a microphone, right?![]()
I was replying to "Lesser Evets" who was asking why Apple added Bluetooth and presuming a greater plan. However, I confused this with the post above by "br0adband" who was talking about bluetooth stereo headphones with Mic at MacWorld.
I'm not anti the ideas, and I agree VoIP could be very effective and is very close to what is being offered - but it's too big a leap with the current products for Apple to have it as their hidden plan... too kludgy. Not with the current products anyway... hope to see something better of course.
I think yer right. I remember my old iPods, and none of them could do it with just the headphones jack. MACRUMORS GUYS- POST THIS ALREADY!![]()
It wouldn't avoid any cost really.
1. You'd still have to charge for calls outside your network. Most VOIP companies already have free calls within their network.
2. The real cost isn't VOIP itself but Wifi - Anything between £3 and £10 an hour - payable in one hour chunks. One day I'll find this mythical beast 'free wifi' but never have yet.
3. That's if you can find wifi, and it is actually working, and they've not blocked everything but port 80. Hotels seem to delight in having the most hideous firewalling policies they can dream up.
4. Since when have apple *ever* done anything cheap?
why doesnt shazam update its program :/
there is one program that you should look into... although it looks like you might not be able to save what you record?! But the developer says they are working on that so maybe they could give you an answer as to when that will be the case. BUT, it's called 4 Tracks Lite and is basically a 4 track recorder for the touch. Check it out...
It's hard to call something a recorder when it won't save, but with a save feature I will be all over this one.
Other than that the biggest problem I see is a microphone. I was thinking about taking a generic headset/mic, cutting the cable, and splitting it off to two 1/8" female connectors (one headphone the other mic). I have a xlr>1/8" mic cable so I could use a 57 or whatever to record instead of some nasty computer voice mic. I wonder if that is already made.....
Speaking of GPS on iPod Touch, wasn't there a dongle type of GPS that someone developed? I wonder what happened to it.![]()
I believe that unless "money is no object" it would not be justifiable to buy an iPhone and ditch some $3,000 over a 3 year contract with AT&Tjust to benefit from better coverage possible through cellular transmission... Grant you the iPhone has GPS