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George Strait gives good advice.

What I usually do is get a piece of paper, a legal sheet of printer paper cut in half should work nicely, and I write the following on it:

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Do you love me, do you wanna be my friend?
And if you do
Well then don't be afraid to take me by the hand
If you want to
I think this is how love goes, check yes or no:

Yes []
No[]

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Has never failed me yet.
 
Some great advice given here. Thanks!
The idea of just spending some time only the two of us and not telling her how I feel yet is a great idea.
The question now is, where do I ask her out to so that it doesn't seem like a date and that it won't be to strange?
 
The question now is, where do I ask her out to so that it doesn't seem like a date and that it won't be to strange?

Well, really, it will be a date, right? Why go to all the trouble of creating a complex date-look-alike scenario?

And... as for strange, avoiding the "so, I asked a bunch of people on an internet forum what I should do, and..." opening salvo. :)
 
I think you're still confused Hold. Asking her to go and do something is asking her out on a date. That's the point, going on a date is getting to know someone better. It's not a committment or professing your love. Going out with someone is how you see if you have fun, make a connection, and want to pursue the person further. If you go on a date and things don't click then it's okay, you haven't ruined your friendship.

For date ideas look here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/846959/
 
My momma always said, "If you can't keep it in your pants, keep it in the family". Advice I took to my wedding.

My father said, "Don't be a dummy, *** on her tummy". Again, advice I didn't take and now I have a 7 month old running around it's a blessing and a curse.

Not sure if this is the proper place for this advice, but it's good advice anyway.:D
 
Recently she was overseas and asked me if I want her to get me something. There was a great deal over there on Crumpler bags so she got me one.
Since she came back she didn't say anything about when I should come and take it.
Could this be a sign that she is waiting for me to make a move?
Would it be ok to text her the following:
"So do we need to go out somewhere together before you give me the Crumpler?"

I think that might be good. Then I can go over the thread that mscriv posted for where to actually go.

However before I actually ask her, is there anyway for me to try and find out if she sees me as more than a friend?
Because as I said her two best friends share an office with me and she will tell them that I asked her out and if she sees me just as a friend I fear my daily routine will be a living hell of awkwardness. Or am I just worrying to much?

I am aware of the fact that I am over thinking this but as pathetic as it may be for a twenty one year old, I have never had a girlfriend before. It's not like I'm screwed up or anything, I look quite good, work out a lot, have a good job etc.

There were only three girls I ever really liked before, two had boyfriends and the third I didn't act on and then it was to late. I never really wanted just any girlfriend just for the sake of having one.

This girl though is very special and I like her a lot. I don't want to lose out again.
 
Somehow I read this as "girlfriend on girlfriend". I had sage advice and now, after a re-read, I realize my advice won't be all that sage.
 
Recently she was overseas and asked me if I want her to get me something. There was a great deal over there on Crumpler bags so she got me one.
Since she came back she didn't say anything about when I should come and take it.
Could this be a sign that she is waiting for me to make a move?
Would it be ok to text her the following:
"So do we need to go out somewhere together before you give me the Crumpler?"

I think that might be good. Then I can go over the thread that mscriv posted for where to actually go.

STOP OVERTHINKING IT!!!!!

Try this:

"Let's hang out this weekend. What do you feel like doing?"

Seriously... it's really that simple. :)


However before I actually ask her, is there anyway for me to try and find out if she sees me as more than a friend?
Because as I said her two best friends share an office with me and she will tell them that I asked her out and if she sees me just as a friend I fear my daily routine will be a living hell of awkwardness. Or am I just worrying to much?

NO NO NO!!!!

This isn't high school. If she finds out you are doing awkward things like that it really will get strange.

Here, let's review again:

"Let's hang out this weekend. What do you feel like doing?"


I am aware of the fact that I am over thinking this but as pathetic as it may be for a twenty one year old, I have never had a girlfriend before. It's not like I'm screwed up or anything, I look quite good, work out a lot, have a good job etc.

There were only three girls I ever really liked before, two had boyfriends and the third I didn't act on and then it was to late. I never really wanted just any girlfriend just for the sake of having one.

This girl though is very special and I like her a lot. I don't want to lose out again.

Then giddy up! Remember that a girl likes a man that is confident. Don't ask around the office about her feelings. Don't try to find "a plan".

Just.

Ask.

Her.

Out.

The absolutely worst thing that can happen is she says no.... in which case you move on and you've lost nothing.
 
You don't have to "find out" anything before y'all hang out/go on a date. The way she reacts to the "date" will tell you if she's interested.

Don't confess, don't dig into feelings, just hang out with her and let it happen.

And btw, it seems like she does like you.
 
Thank you all for the great advice!
I think I will ask her out but I don't know what we should do. I went over a few threads and didn't see any good ideas.

What would be a relaxing place to go to or thing to do?
I don't want to put to much stress on her.
 
Twenty one.

That's cool, I figured you were a little young. If you said 40 I would have reached through the internet and slapped you. Basically what everyone said, just ask her out. Not like middle school where you'd say will you be my gf. Ask her to go somewhere with you. If you like each other something will happen.

Chances are she's probably been waiting for you.
 
Somehow I read this as "girlfriend on girlfriend". I had sage advice and now, after a re-read, I realize my advice won't be all that sage.

I read this as "girlfriend to girlfriend", and was going to suggest a nice shower.

What would be a relaxing place to go to or thing to do?

I don't want to put to much stress on her.

I know you've always been "sheltered" by others, but really, don't you yet know anything about her likes and dislikes??
 
If it's a nice day, there's always a walk in a park. Stuff like the cinema isn't great, as you're sitting in a darkened room not talking to each other (although you two seem to have gone way past the getting to know each other stage).
 
That's cool, I figured you were a little young. If you said 40 I would have reached through the internet and slapped you. Basically what everyone said, just ask her out. Not like middle school where you'd say will you be my gf. Ask her to go somewhere with you. If you like each other something will happen.

Chances are she's probably been waiting for you.

Haha, I glad you aren't going to slap me. It could be that she is waiting for me. Even if she does want to, I don't think she will make the move and ask me out. It doesn't work that way.

As to the other posts, we have been working in the same office for a few months, I have driven her home from work loads of times and we hang out with more friends often. The trouble is, despite knowing eachother for quite some time we never really did anything just the two of us.

When I ask her out, nevermind right now what we will actually do, what will we talk about?

We are past all the getting to know each other questions. I only thought of this right now. When we are with a group of friends things flow well. But one on one, face to face at a coffe shop or something is a bit scary for me.
 
First Date

Some great advice given here. Thanks!
The idea of just spending some time only the two of us and not telling her how I feel yet is a great idea.
The question now is, where do I ask her out to so that it doesn't seem like a date and that it won't be to strange?

First informal date always in a nice reasonably open public space. Museum, or some public event where you have an interest, with a general idea she may have an interest.

Then simply go enjoy the Event as you would normally, but with someone to share it with.

Bottom line, is go out with a loose plan to do something potentially fun or interesting, and don't drool, and remember to wear pants.
 
But one on one, face to face at a coffe shop or something is a bit scary for me.

You know what's scarier? Ending up in the Friends Zone. Very, very, very few of us have ever escaped.

Ask her out!
 
Man up or shut up.

Worst case scenario, it's awkward for the first week after she turns you down.


Just make sure neither your nor her read too much into anything. :)
 
When I ask her out, nevermind right now what we will actually do, what will we talk about?

We are past all the getting to know each other questions. I only thought of this right now. When we are with a group of friends things flow well. But one on one, face to face at a coffe shop or something is a bit scary for me.

Social anxiety is a bitch. If you want to go on a date with her, simply walk up to her and say

"Do you want to go on a date with me this weekend?"

If she says yes, awesome.
If she says no, it'll be awkward for a little while -- like Heilage said. Then you'll get over it.
 
Haha, I glad you aren't going to slap me. It could be that she is waiting for me. Even if she does want to, I don't think she will make the move and ask me out. It doesn't work that way.

As to the other posts, we have been working in the same office for a few months, I have driven her home from work loads of times and we hang out with more friends often. The trouble is, despite knowing eachother for quite some time we never really did anything just the two of us.

When I ask her out, nevermind right now what we will actually do, what will we talk about?

We are past all the getting to know each other questions. I only thought of this right now. When we are with a group of friends things flow well. But one on one, face to face at a coffe shop or something is a bit scary for me.

Never wait to ask a girl out. She will think you don't like her and move on. Take it from a dude, if she says no, sure all your friends are going to find out. But if she says yes, and you end up going out, those friends are going to know WAY more about you; how you are in bed, when you fart, annoying things you do, etc. You're going to get embarrassed either way. So you might as well be happy and embarrassed.

Just ask her out before I do.
 
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