How to See Which Mac Apps Will Stop Working After macOS Golden Gate

[Icelus]

you can _manually_ install Rosetta 2 in the terminal, as a bandaid. I imagine it will probably still possible in OS28 too as the URL won't go away to maintain OS27 support for a few years.

macOS ships with ARM and x86 libraries. Rosetta 2 uses the x86 libraries and when Apple stops providing them it won't be possible to run applications depending on them.

 

[Siliconguy]

as an Apple user I have gone through so many breaking transitions. From Mac OS 9 to OSX, PowerPC to Intel, dropping 32 bit support, and now dropping Intel support. Apple seems to think it’s no big deal … users will update and so what? But it ignores the fact that many cherished apps, especially games, simply will never update, and it ignores the deeply personal relationship people have with their tools and workflows. It’s a problem that Apple mostly chooses to deal with this way. Windows, for example can run software going all the way back to the XP era. SteamOS can do the same with games. Apple simply doesn’t have the will, and would prefer to let old software die. But it has consequences. Users no longer trust Apple to keep their software running.

The old software is a giant pile of security holes. On a gaming-only machine yeah, who cares. On the machine that runs your financial life, that is a problem.

I have an old Mac around to address the issues you have, and I do see your point, but I also see Apple's even more so with that. See this for the Augmented Idiot,

"Anthropic's Claude Mythos is capable of not just spotting vulnerabilities, but also writing the code to prove they are exploitable. It found thousands of zero-day vulnerabilities across major operating systems, web browsers, and open-source libraries"

Pandora's box has been opened. Unless we have the Butlerian Jihad early we are stuck.

 

[Siliconguy]

Wouldn’t it be better to have the list of Intel Apps under Tahoe before Golden Gate is released, where they will stop working? What use is the list under Golden Gate to me when it’s already too late?

You can get the list of Intel apps by going to the System Information app (in Utilities) and scrolling down to Software/Applications, then look at the Kind column. If it's Intel only it will say Intel. If it says Universal or Apple Silicon the app is fine.

 

[InTeCredo]

As described I went to Generl/About and found nothing that they say is there, i.e Intel based apps. I wonder of someone may create an app to track/list al affected software as it seems the fruit won't help.

Click on Apple icon, then on "About this Mac", then "System Reports" button. Scroll down on the left column to "Software" then click on "Applications". You should see the list of applications installed on your Mac: on the right column, see "Type" (Apple Chips, iOS, Universal, Intel).

I think the article isn't quite clear about where to look for the list of apps and their types.

 

[InTeCredo]

I am not sure why some of people get haywired about switching to Windows if Apple stops supporting the Intel-based apps in macOS. If they have the apps installed on iPad or iPhone, they can install the same apps on Mac. That is unless the developers prohibit their iPadOS and iOS versions from being installed.

 

[2638se]

I would prefer developers just make native Mac games running Metal and let the Windows platform get single digit marketshare. In 2028, it is time for Windows gaming to end and let Macs and Linux get the native games.

Why would I develop any game for Mac when Apple can just nullify all of my work/cost every few years? (OSX, PPC, 32-bit, Intel) Apple assumes all software are developed forever. That’s not how the game industry works.

 

[woolypants]

I've been rocking Linux since 2 years ago

Two whole years! Move aside boys, we've the real deal here.

 

[963852741]

Why would I develop any game for Mac when Apple can just nullify all of my work/cost every few years? (OSX, PPC, 32-bt, Intel) Apple assumes all software are developed forever. That’s not how the game industry works.

You are generalising too much.

 

[Charlie Bonesx]

Someday someone will create an OS that builds upon itself instead of abandoning itself.

If you many never taking out old code and maintaining unnecessary compatibility for decades that OS already exists

It’s called windows

 

[Charlie Bonesx]

So this is where Apple forces me to buy a Windoze machine because I can't carry on using the Mac version of Garmin Basecamp.

It’s up to the developer to update their software

And neither Apple nor garmin are “forcing” you to do anything

 

[963852741]

If you many never taking out old code and maintaining unnecessary compatibility for decades that OS already exists

It’s called windows

Even Windows dropped a bunch of stuff in Win 10 and 11. Can't keep everything forever in hopes of getting into book of world records.

 

[Charlie Bonesx]

Why would I develop any game for Mac when Apple can just nullify all of my work/cost every few years? (OSX, PPC, 32-bit, Intel) Apple assumes all software are developed forever. That’s not how the game industry works.

Not exactly every few years.

You are assuming people play the same game forever

That’s also not how the game industry works

Is every windows gamer still playing games from 1999 !?!

 

[963852741]

Not exactly every few years.

PPC-12, Intel-14 and ARM 6 and counting. Not exactly "a few" like he implies.

 

[Squidiey]

Linux is a nightmare of problems. Spoken as someone who has been insalling, managing, and developing for linux for 100 people since the mid 90s. My personal workstation has been a mac since maybe 2010. God it's a dream in comparison.

Linux these days is completely different from its outdated stereotype

Easy distros like Linux Mint and ElementaryOS exist

 

[macbookj0e]

Anyone happen to have the list of non-compatible apps they can share please?

This seems an oversight from Apple. Surely it’ll push a lot of users to other OS’s?

 

[963852741]

Anyone happen to have the list of non-compatible apps they can share please?

This seems an oversight from Apple. Surely it’ll push a lot of users to other OS’s?

Some apps might only have 1 component that's not compatible for example pngout in ImageOptim.

 

[macbookj0e]

Some apps might only have 1 component that's not compatible for example pngout in ImageOptim.

Ok thanks so you mean an easy fix?

 

[Mainyehc]

You can carry on without updating the OS for quite some time, or you can keep an older mac around to run software that hasn't had an update in over a half a decade.

Virtualisation is also an option…

 

[Scott Baret]

Nothing new under the sun. Rosetta 1 broke everything--no more Classic, suddenly gone. The complete disregard for compatibility with a program no longer made that is still useful has long been one of my major complaints about the modern Apple.

Example: MacDraw or even the draw module of ClarisWorks/AppleWorks. Nothing has come along to replace it.

 

[lindros2]

As per the screenshot.
When I voiced concerns about their outdated apps and Chrome blocking access to self signed certs, EPSON support said, “maybe this isn’t the printer for you.”
My response: “maybe this isn’t the job for you.”

 

[963852741]

Ok thanks so you mean an easy fix?

Up to developer of this utility or someone willing to spend the time.

 

[IvyKing]

I've been rocking Linux since 2 years ago

My first experience with Linux came in 1999, and for the most part I prefer MacOS over Linux. There are areas where Linux has more software availability than MacOS.

One reason for the preference of MacOS is that MacBooks are generally nicer to use than most Windows laptops.

 

[963852741]

My first experience with Linux came in 1999

~1994.

 

[IvyKing]

Example: MacDraw or even the draw module of ClarisWorks/AppleWorks. Nothing has come along to replace it.

I would love to have something equivalent to MacDraw added to Pages/Numbers/Keynote.

 

[unkl bob]

Well enjoy windows and their DLLs that haven't been touched in 20 years, Confusing as hell mix of Settings app and the *classic* Control Panel, advertising in the OS, No promise of any hardware or software support in any way. Bits of your machine not working with an update you didn't install. And spending 10% of your time making sure it's all running ok.

Or Linux and all it's lack of software ( sadly )

I'd like to see you get 4 years promised Feature updates from any PC supplier. It's not like the Mac is not going to carry on working for another 10 years.

I have a Mac Pro 2019 ( bought 2020 ) and cost me about £14K all in, still works perfectly ( I even have AppleCare monthly still on it ) and will keep that running as long as Cinema 4D still works on it even it means freezing the OS and Apps and keep it for a a backup.

Oh - The final Intel-based iMac was officially stopped on sale and discontinued on 8th March 2022, not 2023.

"I'd like to see you get 4 years promised Feature updates from any PC supplier. It's not like the Mac is not going to carry on working for another 10 years."
I use a 2012 MBP that works just fine and a 2010 MM that still does amazedly well. Yes, I have 'updated' both to 16 Gb RAM and 1 Tb storage. They're slower, but surprisingly useful. Just sayin'...