HP Announces WebOS-Based TouchPad Tablet, Pre 3 and Veer Smartphones

[caddisfly]

no competition

Competition requires two players to be on the playing field....there is still only one player on the field...HP hasn't even reached the stadium yet, let alone the locker room or the field. They are just woofing thru the media

call me when you ship and I actually can buy this thing, then lets talk about what it can or cannot do

 

[i.mac]

I just finished reading the Engadget stream and I have to admit HP has hit it out of the park with the integration and UI. This is a very compelling system. I really hope this pushes Apple to blow us away again.

Easy to do when 70+ % of your product is a copy of your competition's work.

 

[trellus]

My favorite feature is SMS messages being able to received on the TouchPad. I hope adds this feature to the iPad. In general the phone to tablet integration is amazing!

I agree, though it seemed rather strange (and a bit dumb to me, and I'm actually a fan of webOS) that it seems to require that one or both devices be on the charging Touchstone for that to work. Very strange indeed. I'm not sure why they couldn't simply link up the devices using Bluetooth like RIM did with the link between Blackberry smartphone and Playbook tablet.

 

[i.mac]

Competition requires two players to be on the playing field....there is still only one player on the field...HP hasn't even reached the stadium yet, let alone the locker room or the field. They are just woofing thru the media

call me when you ship and I actually can buy this thing, then lets talk about what it can or cannot do

Well said.

 

[Thex1138]

Clone Wars

So HP demo a device that has an email client, browser and a set of proprietary apps..... demoed at Engadget....
The HP guys can't stopped plugging the word intuitive... that's all nice and good... but once the user is bored with those proprietary apps... life's pretty boring in an HP clone...

So HP cloned the MacBook Pro with a plastic Unibody... now they clone tablet...
They're treading carefully with gestures though... they know that semantics count in the touch interface patents... HP being patent hoarders themselves.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

I can hear the snickering at Cupertino from the other side of the country.

It's competition like this that Apple loves. It's unimaginative enough to not be able to push the envelope and yet can sell enough units to prevent Apple from entering the anti-trust zone.

We've all seen this movie. Next Apple announces special events to preview iOS 5 and iPad 2. But all the copy cats are basing specs off of iOS 4 and iPad 1. TouchPad is going to look dated by the time it ships, which will be after iPad 2 ships.

The other problems wannabes have are 1) consumers are well invested in the iOS platform by now. They are not going to want to rebuy apps for a very similar platform made by another company and 2) Apple is hot currency with retail stores. HP, Dell, are chevy's to Apple's BMW. They have no sizzle for avg consumers.

 

[nickpro]

this makes me REALLY look forward to iOS 5.

 

[lilo777]

Competition requires two players to be on the playing field....there is still only one player on the field...HP hasn't even reached the stadium yet, let alone the locker room or the field. They are just woofing thru the media

call me when you ship and I actually can buy this thing, then lets talk about what it can or cannot do

Are you saying that it makes no sense to discuss just announced products? On a MacRumors site? Oh the irony...

 

[jamesryanbell]

1) Overall, it's merely a massive copy of the iPad.

2) I guess competition is good, but because of the OS, it's not iPad. ...and that's a DETRIMENT.

3) Come up with your own keynote presentation instead of stealing/copying Apple's fonts.

4) Look at the OS layout. Copy. Lame.

This will go the way of the droid (it'll be out there, but always "lesser", and never a game changer).

Next thread.

 

[nitro912gr]

Sounds like good news, competition after all benefits us, the customers.

HP have the potential to match apple, but they have to try harder. Once they where really good as a company, but they lack quality and customer support these days.

I haven't forgot yet what happened to my super expensive HP pavilion with the 7600go gpu, if you wonder what I'm talking about google about that, you will see how a lot of expensive high class HP laptops just melted down...

But I still have faith they can make it back to better days.

Good luck to them, I hope for the best, as I said we win anyway.

 

[gkarris]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/live-from-hp-palms-think-beyond-webos-event/

11:55AM "We're thinking beyond today." Taking webOS to other connected devices, including printers, and some form factors you haven't seen before."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.....

What "form factors"?

(maybe I have seen them...)

Still laughing - I'd like to see a "form factor" used for Hooters Restaurants...

 

[aethelbert]

4) Look at the OS layout. Copy. Lame.

How is WebOS a copy of iOS? The notification system? The traditional palm-style grid launcher? An interactive status bar at the top? Card-based multitasking? Even Jobs has come out to say that WebOS is a good mobile software base.

If you want to make an argument, fine. But back up your point.

 

[Piggie]

Easy to do when 70+ % of your product is a copy of your competition's work.

Yeah, like all car makers copy each other.

I mean then have 4 wheels, a steering wheel. foot pedals for brakes etc, doors and windows.

What a ripp off.

Like these tablets. Who do they think they are. Copying apple's design, they should be all covered in spikes with bits of metal poking out all over the place.

These tablets, look like tablets, with a back casing and a glass screen.

Copycats.!

 

[gwangung]

Are you saying that it makes no sense to discuss just announced products? On a MacRumors site? Oh the irony...

I think it makes no sense to put any weight behind a discussion, because there's not enough user experience to ground it.

Specs can tell you something, but not everything, and there doesn't seem to be enough in the measurables to say that this is a quantum leap from an iPad---and competition is going to NEED a quantum leap to make the market competitive.

 

[bearcatrp]

Should read "HP announces WebOS-Based iPad"

Only a fanboy would make a comment like this! Grow up.

 

[DougB541]

Yeah, like all car makers copy each other.

I mean then have 4 wheels, a steering wheel. foot pedals for brakes etc, doors and windows.

What a ripp off.

Like these tablets. Who do they think they are. Copying apple's design, they should be all covered in spikes with bits of metal poking out all over the place.

These tablets, look like tablets, with a back casing and a glass screen.

Copycats.!

WebOS copying iOS maybe on the surface. Spend time with WebOS and its doing a lot of things iOS doesn't do.

I used to own a Pre and hope HP succeeds with their rebirth of the OS...it really does have great potential.

 

[fpnc]

No retina display ?...

0815 being sarcastic, I believe.

Didn't read all of the posts.

Is there one complaining:

If it doesn't have a Retina display I am not buying?...

Exactly!!!

So where are all the people who were insisting that the iPad 2 would have to have a so-called Retina display?

 

[Glideslope]

*******, not only do they copy the device, they can't even come up with their own keynote fonts and background...

LOL. The first thing that came to my mind was "why is Scott Forstall on stage"?

Competition is good. However, come on people, try to think for yourselves.

 

[Bytor65]

Only a fanboy would make a comment like this! Grow up.

Hardly. How much more of a WebOS iPad could this be. Same exact screen, same exact dimensions, same exact weight.

If it wasn't for parts of it being colored black, it was be a total match for the iPad.

Out of the 50 tablets coming out, none is a more exact iPad clone than the touchpad.

 

[DeeGee48]

Will Support Flash

In the Appleinsider version of this story it says that the TouchPad will run Adobe Flash. An interesting thought came to me: with the Retina display pretty much dead for the iPad 2, does anybody think that the rumored upgrades in the CPU/GPU might not be for that at all, but rather to enable Flash on the iPad??!! Could Apple surprise everybody with a pre-emptive strike on HP (and a great new feature!) like this, do you think? I'm sure these tech companies spy on each other somehow and 'know' what's coming from their competitors, to a degree. Man, I sure hope so!

 

[Rivix]

Apple fans = whiny whores.

 

[misfit356tsw]

Competition requires two players to be on the playing field....there is still only one player on the field...HP hasn't even reached the stadium yet, let alone the locker room or the field. They are just woofing thru the media

call me when you ship and I actually can buy this thing, then lets talk about what it can or cannot do

So you think that since the HP tablet is not out for YOU to buy, that Apple is not paying attention? Unreleased and soon to be released products frequently have an effect in this industry. Believe it or not, the world does not revolve around you. Your lame attempt at a sports analogy fails.

 

[bearcatrp]

Looks pretty dam good. All this talk of copying from apple is pure fanboyism at it's best. At least you have choices with this tablet instead of what mr jobs thinks you need from a closed system. If that's what you want, go for it. Until all the tablets are out with full testing on each, then we will know who's on top. Apple has the lead with many apps, so it will take time for the rest to catch up. By Christmas should give a good idea how well the tablets fair. Was hoping HP would use a better shell for the phone. Plastic is junk for cell phones. Just hope the price is competitive. Can't wait for a show down with iPad 2 and the rest of the tablets. Going to be interesting. Consumers win with all this competition.

 

[scottsjack]

Sweet Jesus, I can hardly read the MacRumors forums any more. Other than the Mac Pro forum (Mac Pro apparently equalling "adult") there is thread after thread after thread of fanboys who must base much of their personal feelings of self worth on the fact that they own some kind of Apple device.

I doesn't seem to matter what the topic is, if Steve didn't invent it or doesn't like it then it must be bad, substandard or outdated. I think about the "we're all good/they're all bad" folks every time I open a spread sheet on my MP and it takes a while for Numbers to open as opposed to when I open one on my Windows 7 late 2009 mini and Excel 2003 explodes onto the screen almost as fast as I can hit the Enter key.

This thread about HP's tablet is in some ways almost a copy and paste from the thread about Adobe Flash. Man some of the posters are childish!

 

[tigres]

Oh, the other thing I noticed was you and possibly some others have spoken of the "same home button", but I've looked carefully at the pics and I can't see where you're seeing a home button? As I recall from what I've read, there is no home button on the Touchpad? That would certainly differentiate it further if some -- and again go even further ironically in the direction of "Apple" simplicity. ;-)

Watch the vid on engadget. It has the home button exactly where iPad has it. Albeit does not have the square icon on it. Same factory perhaps without the print run.