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So, basically rip off Apple, but do it with the unreliable HP name. Sounds like a real winner to me.


the whole launch reeks of desperation. HP used to be an innovator, now they're reduced to just hoping that we won't recognize the brand when we see it.
 
You mean the world's worst-looking laptop. That colour and hinge are horrible.

To be fair, the colour is not nearly as bad as the gold MacBook's.

As for the hinge and ports on the back, it's not much less elegant than the TiBook was, and that was one of the most praised laptops of its time.

As far as thinness goes, -still- no one has addressed WHY that is the aim! If they all keep pushing that just because of Apple, we're going to keep getting the ugly and the rubbish :(. I really like the look of the Dell 2-in-1s for functionality - function over form needs to start being a thing again.
 
the whole launch reeks of desperation. HP used to be an innovator, now they're reduced to just hoping that we won't recognize the brand when we see it.

What are some innovations that has came from Apple lately?

And I don't mean things that were already coming down the pipe when Steve Jobs died.
 
This thing and the Surface Book have impressed me, I'll admit. It's the inclusion of Windows that still gets me. Hardware isn't much of a differentiator anymore. But Win10 is... well, better, but still miles off what I want.

yeah, I mean it depends how people use it. I live in Adobe CC from the second I boot my machine (it has been just as stable) - and we use Dropbox for work. With Quick Access + Dropbox I pretty much got over the file system issues I had with Windows.

My last Mac travel combo was a 13 Air and an iPad with an Adonis Jot Touch (to sketch and comp with ArtRage). I do not think I can ever go back to that.
 
Apple has gone from being a leader to being a follower since Steve Jobs has departed.

Who's going to clean all that blood up once the bleeding edge has sliced its way through endless victims of early adoption syndrome? Apple. They come along, clean up the mess, hold onto the bits that are left which are worthwhile, whilst the casualties are slid into coffins, nailed up and dumped into the grounds of impatience, to begin their gradual decay into the soil of irrelevant gimmickry.
 
To be fair, the colour is not nearly as bad as the gold MacBook's.

As for the hinge and ports on the back, it's not much less elegant than the TiBook was, and that was one of the most praised laptops of its time.

As far as thinness goes, -still- no one has addressed WHY that is the aim! If they all keep pushing that just because of Apple, we're going to keep getting the ugly and the rubbish :(. I really like the look of the Dell 2-in-1s for functionality - function over form needs to start being a thing again.

I rather like it, kudos to HP for not being afraid to show some individuality. If they released an aluminum laptop everyone would be screaming at how they copied Apple. Innovation is what we need, that goes for color schemes as well. Just releasing the same exact laptop but .001mm thinner every other year can only work so long.
 
Windows 10 isn't bad

Something not being bad doesn't automatically make it good. That's not how making superb products works. Mediocre, any port in a storm, but many millennia FAR away from good.

Microsoft are such a needlessly complex, tasteless and utterly lost company, so it's pretty difficult to give them credit for an OS that was designed by committee by way of delegating design decisions to the general public, using the "Windows Insider" programme. Are you really gonna ask your "insiders" to help you design your product? Talk about rudderless and lost - where's the absolute, forward-looking and utterly rock solid confidence that you see with Apple, at Microflop? They're clueless. Utterly. Look at their naming conventions as an example of complete ineptitude... Golly gosh.
 
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I wouldn't call them an innovation leader. Seems to me Apple lead with USB-C, glass trackpads, and the keyboard thing, not to mention edge-to-edge glass display, etc., etc.

So HP comes out with something a bit thinner, and a different color. Big deal. But, I do appreciate their design, color choice (I like it), and the fact that they've squeezed a Core i5 or i7 in there, and beat Apple to the punch with Thunderbolt 3, now that's damn impressive!

I'm certain Apple has new models with new features in the wings, and I love Apple stuff (typing this on a MacBook Pro), but with the less than stellar function of several Apple products (SW and HW) lately, I would be very tempted to buy this HP laptop (IMHO the 1st decent one they've made), assuming I could rip the nasty-ass WindowsOS off of it and install Ubuntu (don't know if Ubuntu supports TB3 and USB-C yet).
 
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I'm confused as hell about what you are saying. USB C is USB C. The USB C port on the Apple Macbook is the same USB C port used on the Dell XPS 13 and XPS 15, and the same USB C port used on this HP Spectre.

How is Apple's USB C port "smoother to plug it into devices"???

There was a misunderstanding - sorry for that. I meant that apples implementation of a reversible plug, the apple lightning plug, in my opinion would have been great as the new USB Type C.

Sorry for confusing you like hell^^
 
Just you wait until that chrome plating starts to wear and peel off showing the white plastic of truth, underneath... ewwwwww. This is hideous. Really hideous, and also hilariously misunderstanding what style is.

This "style" will soon look tired and dated, it's clothes will become tattered and worn. Next, please....
I think you're getting mixed up wth the iPhone 5S.
 
I don't like this design and am against windows but no one can deny how ridiculous Apple's 12 Inch Macbook looks now with just one port and so much compromise on functionality compared to this thing..
it has all necessary ports,yet much thinner and more powerful than Apple's useless toy laptop.
12 Inch Macbook is a just embarrassing.
 
Something not being bad doesn't automatically make it good. That's not how making superb products works. Mediocre, any port in a storm, but many millennia FAR away from good.

Microsoft are such a needlessly complex, tasteless and utterly lost company, so it's pretty difficult to give them credit for an OS that was designed by committee by way of delegating design decisions to the general public, using the "Windows Insider" programme. Are you really gonna ask your "insiders" to help you design your product? Talk about rudderless and lost - where's the absolute, forward-looking and utterly rock solid confidence that you see with Apple, at Microflop? They're clueless. Utterly. Look at their naming conventions as an example of complete ineptitude... Golly gosh.
If they're so lost why is their share price going up and not down, oh I know, you've got no idea what you're talking about.
If Apple is so rock solidly confident, why is it copying Samsung and Microsoft.
 
Something not being bad doesn't automatically make it good. That's not how making superb products works. Mediocre, any port in a storm, but many millennia FAR away from good.

Microsoft are such a needlessly complex, tasteless and utterly lost company, so it's pretty difficult to give them credit for an OS that was designed by committee by way of delegating design decisions to the general public, using the "Windows Insider" programme. Are you really gonna ask your "insiders" to help you design your product? Talk about rudderless and lost - where's the absolute, forward-looking and utterly rock solid confidence that you see with Apple, at Microflop? They're clueless. Utterly. Look at their naming conventions as an example of complete ineptitude... Golly gosh.

Wow such bitterness, I feel bad for you man, carrying around all that angst and hatred.
 
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If they're so lost why is their share price going up and not down, oh I know, you've got no idea what you're talking about.
If Apple is so rock solidly confident, why is it copying Samsung and Microsoft.
Angst? Hatred? Gosh. If ever there was a compelling demonstration of how sentiment becomes confused and misconstrued via textual communication, you've just shown a text book example of it.

Why would I think about a technology product that heavily so as to warrant it affecting my mood or stealing my lunch? You got the wrong person, I'm extremely happy and ain't no crazy internet opinions gonna affect that in any form. I'm peaceful, full of joy and God loves me, you've got the wrong end of the stick I think, maybe. :)

Gonna go and make me some garlic bread - want some?
 
Bring on the MacBook Pro's Apple! Show em what you got!

HP is like that awkward kid trying so hard to be cool so he can join the cool club. No matter how hard he tries, we all know he will never be let in the cool club.

:cool:

So people buy Apple laptops to be cool?
 
If they're so lost why is their share price going up and not down, oh I know, you've got no idea what you're talking about.
If Apple is so rock solidly confident, why is it copying Samsung and Microsoft.

Would you like some garlic bread? I'm cooking some. Not a pun, I'm asking.
 
If it doenst run OSX why bother saying.... they just dont get it....



Amid rumors that Apple is working on ultra-thin 13 and 15-inch "MacBooks", HP yesterday announced the "world's thinnest laptop" in the form of the Core-i powered 13.3-inch Spectre, with a design that the company said offered proof that it is driving innovation faster than Apple.

Created with a focus on "luxury and artisanal craftsmanship", the HP Spectre is 10.4mm thick and weighs in at 2.45lbs, sporting a twin-tone aluminum and carbon fiber chassis with an edge-to-edge Corning Gorilla Glass IPS 1080p display. Apple's 12-inch Retina MacBook is 13.1mm thick and weighs 2.03lbs by comparison.

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The copper and dark gray body has contrast bronze edging and a full-size, recessed backlit keyboard with 1.3 mm travel, and includes a pair of arcing piston hinges that fold flush for a "nearly hingeless look" when the laptop is closed. HP says the design is inspired by high-end furniture details.

The laptop is powered by an Intel Core i5 or i7 Skylake processor, rather than the significantly slower ultra low-voltage Core M CPU specifically designed for ultra-thin notebooks and found in the 12-inch MacBook.

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HP claims this is made possible by the Spectre's integration of Intel's "breakthrough hyperbaric cooling system", which features two ultra-thin fans, a heat-pipe and a copper radiator, allowing the system to not only extract heat but also draw in cool air and direct it over the processor.

HP used two differently sized polymer batteries in the Spectre, making up four cells in total for a claimed battery life of up to 9.5 hours. HP also used a new variant of its logo on the rear of the display to set apart the laptop from its other ranges.

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Other specifications include a glass trackpad, three USB-C ports (two of which support Thunderbolt 3), up to 512GB PCIe SSD storage, a maximum of 8GB RAM, dual speakers part-designed by Bang & Olufsen, and Intel HD Graphics 520. Early indications are that the SSD and memory are soldered onto the mainboard, suggesting HP sacrificed repairability for thinness.

HP says the Spectre will be be available for pre-order on April 25 and begin shipping sometime in May. Prices will start at $1,170. In addition, a Bluetooth mouse, carry bag and leather sleeve that match the design of the Spectre notebook will be sold as accessories.

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Speaking ahead of the Spectre's unveiling at the New York Times' International Luxury Conference in Paris, the company's PC chief Ron Coughlin said that the laptop is an example of HP's determination to lead the way in the PC industry. "For years, Apple has been seen as the innovator and the driver of innovation [but now] HP is really taking over that mantle," Coughlin said.

HP has had to defend its laptops in the past over perceived design similarities with Apple's notebooks, but the company is clearly attempting to push its latest "luxury" model as a trendsetter in the premium PC laptop market. At the CES in January, HP unveiled its more business-focused Elitebook Folio, measuring less than half an inch in thickness.

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A recent DigiTimes report claimed that Apple's upcoming "ultra-thin" MacBooks will "share a design similar to the existing 12-inch MacBook" and be "thinner than [the] existing MacBook Air," but failed to specify which MacBook lineup the new design is destined for.

New Macs could feasibly be introduced by WWDC 2016, which will likely take place between June 13-17 based on scheduling information available from the Moscone Center.

Apple's refreshed Mac lineup is expected to feature Intel's faster Skylake processors and Thunderbolt 3 with USB-C, while the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are also deserving candidates for an overall redesign.

Article Link: HP Claims Innovation Over Apple With 'World's Thinnest Laptop'
 
I certainly am partial to Apple...however, not so blinded as to not see what is out there competing.

This is possibly the best competition Apple has had in a number of years as far as design goes. I have not touched it and cannot vouch for construction quality but the trend of hitting better materials and making computers look like something else than an aluminium or plastic box is a nice change.

Internals seem to be pretty standard, still a bit dubious about USB-C but time will likely push that form in the widespread adoption realm.

The only thing that remains to be seen... will it be rock solid running W10 or will it be flakier than my morning croissant. Gotta say that some people at HPQ have worked hard for a number of months to come up with that...

Ah the good old days...

Bravo HP, now, make the same thing with the rest of your... lackluster brand. 8GB Ram though.... come on!

Yea, they should solder some more in!
 
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