HP Claims Innovation Over Apple With 'World's Thinnest Laptop'

[Mindcrime]

Account says "joined today"...

Click the name frogger2020. In the popup it says "Member Since: Sept 11, 2006."

Additionally, look the join date right under his/your/my avatar to the left. frogger2020's is Sept 11, 2006. Mine is Oct 24, 2003.

EDIT: Nevermind, I got two conversations mixed up. My bad. This post has nothing to do with the one I was trying quote earlier (which I failed to quote properly)

 

[allanfries]

Actually, looks Interesting. Even kinda cool. But unless it runs OS X, not interested!

 

[mildocjr]

Actually, looks Interesting. Even kinda cool. But unless it runs OS X, not interested!

It's HP, we can always format it with FreeBSD

 

[Kaspersky]

Beautiful!

 

[Candlelight]

Both the HP and the MacBook are crap. They can keep their thin underpowered designs.

 

[mildocjr]

Send in the haters!

 

[Will do good]

Not bad

 

[Brad9893]

Tell that to Apple.

I never meant to say or insinuate that Apple was good in that regard these days. They are a little too preachy for my tastes: everything is either revolutionary, or there are snarky comments like "Can't innovate my ass!"

I'm just mentioning how it should be in my opinion.

 

[JaySoul]

I have a mid 2012 13" baseline MBP. I have an SSD in that thing and I honestly wish it would die so I could justify a new one but it runs absolutely flawlessly. Do you still have a spinning disk? Have you done a fresh OS install since getting it?

I've got a 750GB spinning disk, that's probably the main culprit. But I even have 16GB RAM, it's just infuriatingly slow.

My previous MacBook (white 2007) seemed much better, didn't slow down until right near the end.
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I like Windows 10 pretty much too, still has GUI schizofrenia though and I don't just mean that there's touch GUI elements here and there mixed with non-touch GUI, but that many (third party) apps still looks as if they were made for Windows 95.

My MacBook Pro from 2011 that I have at work is fast and stable for me running OS X El Cap. Have put a SSD in it though, and it helps a lot.

Yeah I said to someone else, my MBP has a 750GB spinning disk, maybe that's the main problem... I may just have to switch an SSD into it at this rate.

 

[ZipZap]

Add a touch screen and bye bye macbook.

 

[JaySoul]

yeah, from my anecdotal experience and others' around me, macbook (pros at least) from 2010-2012 have held up extremely poorly, if making it this far at all. the GPU/logicboard problems are legendary as far as i'm concerned. went through 2 returned/dying laptops in that period and the third one that remained is, as of last month, completely useless. a 3-4 year lifespan on a mac isn't cool.

This is what I'm trying to say, but good lord people get so defensive on this forum sometimes, it's embarrassing! I returned to 27 notifications after my post, with most berating me!!

My previous 2007 White MacBook was fantastic, much better I thought.

 

[sir1963nz]

This is actually a very good looking laptop. Too bad it runs windows

Thing is, anything you can do on this HP, you can do on a Toshiba, a Dell, Samsung, etc etc etc etc

It is still just another Windows machine , just in a different wrapper.

Not sure how robust those hinges will be.

The ports on the back rather than the sides may be a PITA if you plug stuff into the USB a lot.

If the battery life for a normal user meets/exceeds their rated life then thats nice, but too many machines over promise and under deliver, Apples seems to under promise and over deliver. If HP has its **** sorted on this, good on them.

Would I buy one, no. I have had to set up my Mother-in-laws Windows 10 box and it was a horrible horrible experience.

The lack of "target mode", Migration Assistant, were especially missed.HP, just like all the other Wintel manufacturers are constrained by what Microsoft is willing to do, or allows them to do. It makes real innovation much more difficult.

 

[JaySoul]

There is literally no way that you are not trolling or do not live in a parallel dimension. You have exactly described, in reverse, using a windows machine and a Mac. I have a ten year old mac pro that runs like it's brand new, and I have a 2 Year old XEON workstation that crawls, crashes, and generally misbehaves.

Again, this is the kind of comment that ruins this forum sometimes. I'm trolling because my MBP isn't performing well enough.

My previous MacBook was fantastic, as was my 24" iMac. Oh, and my Apple TV still works fine after 4 years. My third gen iPad is in perfect condition. My 2006 iPod Classic actually still works flawlessly.

But oh, OK, I'm trolling because my MBP isn't up to scratch considering I paid nearly £2000 for it.

Thanks for your helpful input!

 

[sir1963nz]

Add a touch screen and bye bye macbook.

YUCK. A Touch screen on a laptop is a horrid design idea. Being forced to lift your hand(s) to interact with a screen that is poorly positioned to allow that interaction to happen is just out and out awkward and horrid. And with a light device there is always the risk of sending it tipping backwards.

 

[JaySoul]

The lack of fit and finish bothers me. There are two settings programs. Icons and UI elements from the modern UI and classic Windows. And doesn't it display ads on your lock screen?

Ads? No - it displays pictures, but I've only ever seen one pop-up ad which was for Microsoft Office, and popped back down after a few seconds.

It's not perfect as an OS, but performance-wise, it's definitely sped up my 2009 PC. I was going to get shot of it but with 10, it should last me another 1-2 years easily, which is just a nice surprise.

 

[cocky jeremy]

So, basically rip off Apple, but do it with the unreliable HP name. Sounds like a real winner to me.

 

[69650]

I hope Apple decides to increase the MBP screen sizes to 14" & 16". They could easily achieve it simply by reducing the size of the large black border around the screen.

 

[sir1963nz]

Windows 10 isn't bad

Well lets see, the mail client on Win 10 is rubbish, try importing your email from a different client, yep, no import function.
You can however set up an outlook account and then forward all your email to yourself that way. Creating local folders for email... have not found out how to do this yet, you can create folder on an outlook/exchange account, just not locally.

Contacts is real fun, you can bring you contacts across, however it also has this thing call "people", effectively the same things, however again you can not import you contacts into people. However Mail uses "people" to look up email addresses, not contacts. So, yes, you may have all your "Contacts" there, but they are sod all use.

No migration assistant, given the bloody stupid way MS hides various folders for mail etc, this would be useful.

No target mode, makes upgrading a Mac a doddle when combined with migration assistant.

So, to get a functional Windows box, you have to buy additional software, email spam and so on.

Horrid.

 

[tubeexperience]

So, basically rip off Apple, but do it with the unreliable HP name. Sounds like a real winner to me.

Which part did HP "rip off"?

 

[spinedoc77]

Beautiful! I wouldn't get it because of the ginormous bezels though, seems like they at least copied that much from Apple. I also would never buy another laptop without a touchscreen, we aren't in 2012 anymore.

 

[Altis]

So it's thinner, more powerful, and cheaper than the 12" MacBook, with more ports...

 

[OneMike]

Thank goodness Apple only lets you install on their hardware.

Why

 

[spinedoc77]

YUCK. A Touch screen on a laptop is a horrid design idea. Being forced to lift your hand(s) to interact with a screen that is poorly positioned to allow that interaction to happen is just out and out awkward and horrid. And with a light device there is always the risk of sending it tipping backwards.

I'd NEVER go back to a non touchscreen laptop, they are just so incredibly useful. It provides for no abstraction, like a mouse or trackpad would have. Speaking of, I'd rather chop my hand off than use a trackpad, what a horrible freakin invention. I can understand if you use your laptop 3 feet away from yourself, then you still have the trackpad to fall back onto. But if the laptop is fairly close to you, as laptops usually are, then the touchscreen is much more intuitive than the trackpad, especially with things like scrolling, pinching, zooming, etc. If the laptop is on your lap, then that intuitiveness becomes even stronger. I don't get the difference in lifting your hand to use the trackpad, versus lifting it to use a touchscreen, seems like splitting hairs, unless you have a very heavy hand or are very weak, or maybe have an iron hook or maybe a bionic hand which is very heavy.

My wife had the same sentiments, I couldn't make her get rid of her crappy old 2011 MacBook air. She said she would hate touch screens and would never use it. I got her a Dell 13" with a touchscreen and she thanks me every day for showing her another method of interaction. For the life of me I never understood why some fight so hard against having more features, more choice.

Plus I gotta say, you should stop punching your laptops. I've never had one tip backwards with a touch.

 

[imola.zhp]

Thin = Innovation?

I have a sheet of paper, I'm the most innovative person ever!

 

[jca24]

garbage