HP iPod Photo

[plinkoman]

yea, it's great that they can sell more, with more marketing and more distributers, and its great that iTunes comes on all hp computers, but in the end i think it will hurt apple more then it will help. a year ago, i was the only person i know who had an iPod, but now most of my family, and most of my freinds have an iPod, most got them very recently for chritmas, or right after with money they got, but guess what, not a single one of them has an hp logo on them. apple can sell iPods just fine without the help of hp, hell, look at the mini, its the most popular iPod right now, and theres no hp version of it. but this definately hurts apple though, the whole iPod, then switch to mac thing is useless when the customer thinks it is actually manufactured by hp. i've heard people come up to me knowing i have an iPod and saying, "oh, did you know that the iPod is actually made by hp?"

and even if there is to be an hp version, i'd rather it be like it is now, just the regular iPod, no mini, and no photo, and no special editions. just enough to get iPods on the shelves of more stores, and iTunes on all hp's, but not enough to make too many people not think of apple when they think of iPod. people are frickin stupid sometimes, apple needs to keep that in mind if it ever wants the iPod to lead to mac sales.

 

[swissmann]

Are they going to do the mini as well I wonder?

 

[sushi]

i was in radio shack the other day and i overheard a woman asking a salesman about the HP ipod... "whats the difference between this one and the one made by apple?" the guy quickly replied "well the apple ipod only works with an apple computer while the HP works with both." she said "oh its a good thing i asked, i have a pc at home"

i had to bite my tongue to not walk over to the counter and tell him he was full of sh*t.

Yeah, I hear ya. Stupid salespeople are out there.

But look at it this way, Apple just got another sale.

Sushi

 

[virividox]

i dont see the problem at all with hp selling ipods, as long as ipods get exposure and more apple stuff is bought then im all happy

 

[sushi]

apple can sell iPods just fine without the help of hp

True.

But Apple can sell a whole lot more with the help of HP. And that is good when you want to establish a standard across the computer market (PC and Mac).

i've heard people come up to me knowing i have an iPod and saying, "oh, did you know that the iPod is actually made by hp?"

Yep, people can be stupid at times.

Even the website says the "Apple iPod + HP".

Sushi

 

[nagromme]

Of course it's good that HP is selling the iPod. The more models the better. HP's a reseller of Apple iPods with Apple logos and the whole works. But they sell in LOTS of locations that never carried iPods before--and they reach blindered PC audiences that Apple doesn't directly touch much. That means a LOT more sales... and a lot of new people exposed to Apple quality.

The Photo model makes sense for HP too, since they like to tie photography in with their printer line too. And it's a great product--I couldn't be happier with my Photo.

 

[dontmatter]

Yet another piece of good news.... this is just great, this stream of good tidbits, growing and growing until.... huge macworld, gotta be huge with all these rumors from TS. And then finnancial results, which had better be huge too, with christmas and all.

It's a good day to be a mac user, that's for sure.

 

[GFLPraxis]

i was in radio shack the other day and i overheard a woman asking a salesman about the HP ipod... "whats the difference between this one and the one made by apple?" the guy quickly replied "well the apple ipod only works with an apple computer while the HP works with both." she said "oh its a good thing i asked, i have a pc at home"

i had to bite my tongue to not walk over to the counter and tell him he was full of sh*t.

You should have, man!

 

[GFLPraxis]

Well, i know what my next iPod is going to be.... Unlike Apple, HP actually offers a decent warranty on it. And seing as how i now work on the service line for the iPod+HP i can setup my own repairs and whatnot..

btw... If any of you out there have an iPod+HP and call for support and speak to a guy named Eric, thats me

Great! I know where to direct all my friends with stupid questions that don't understand anything about computers! Have fun

 

[wPod]

um, so, when does the HP mini come out? i just dont see how this is advantageous to HP. im sure apple isnt giving them a very good price on the iPods b/c apple enjoys making a huge profit off of the iPods. so what benifit is it to HP? why dont they just sell iPods through their dealers? like being an apple certified dealer? business is a wierd thing, thats why im going into engineering

 

[Doctor Q]

Today I talked to guy I (thought I) knew. He knows I like Apple products so he brought up iPods, saying "I don't have a Mac so I can't use an iPod." What th!? How could he go this long, with all those cross-platform iPod ads, and not know they work with a PC???

I explained the facts to him, but it made me think that having HP selling iPods is good for people who aren't paying close attention, and maybe even impulse buyers who don't research, they just react. Some of those people won't automatically think "some Mac thing, not for me" when they see an hPod, as they might do with an iPod.

 

[Trowaman]

Today I talked to guy I (thought I) knew. He knows I like Apple products so he brought up iPods, saying "I don't have a Mac so I can't use an iPod." What th!? How could he go this long, with all those cross-platform iPod ads, and not know they work with a PC???

I explained the facts to him, but it made me think that having HP selling iPods is good for people who aren't paying close attention, and maybe even impulse buyers who don't research, they just react. Some of those people won't automatically think "some Mac thing, not for me" when they see an hPod, as they might do with an iPod.

you sir just made a light go off in my head. IF there are more people like this thinking that the iPod only works on macs and they see a bunch of iPods out there, it must make them think, a lot of people actually have macs, which may lead them to checking one out. In short, the iPods may make the stupid look at macs b/c they are none the wiser. The halo effect working another way.

 

[logich]

HP influence on the iPod photo

I personally think that the development iPod photo may have been stongly encouraged by HP as part of inking the deal with Apple to resell iPods.

HP wants these devices to hook directly to printers and cameras to lower the barriers to digital photography... and thus sell more ink.

Preview photos on the iPod and then print them as 4x6 or 8x10. That's HP's kind of business incentive.

 

[Doctor Q]

The introduction of another HP-branded iPod is also a good sign that HP is happy with the previous deal and with their sales. If things weren't going well, they wouldn't be coming out with a new line.

 

[t300]

Do we REALLY need this? There is just no point, really...

 

[yukon8170]

printers

Since HP is now coming out with iPod photos, dont you think the next logical step would be for them to develop accesories that transfer pictures from your HP digital camera to your iPod or from your iPod to your HP photo printer?

just thinking

 

[CrackedButter]

Couple of points

I think it is a good idea that HP get one.

I don't understand why HP gets theirs 9 months from now, why not sooner.

People are certainly dumb after all this time if they think about the ipod the way they do, it shoudn't even be geek knowledge how an ipod works.

 

[bartelby]

Maybe it's to give HP time to design some more of those nice stickers they had for when they released their first iPods.

 

[Poff]

It will bring even more business.

Why would you want to hide your porn just because Jesus is coming?

 

[asif786]

the fact that hp are both carrying on and expanding the ipod deal means one thing - it must be doing damned well..

the HP iPod sold 121,000 units in its first quarter, it's going to be interesting to see how many it sell in it's second quarter.

At this rate, Creative's $100m ad campaign is pretty much going down the drain!

/asif

 

[b-randomly]

So now there will be two sizes for Apple iPod+HP skins -- the regular, and the iPod photo+HP size.

But seriously, who cares? And why did this get demoed at International CES? If it's not coming out for half a year, it should make little difference -- although I am interested to see if they have any planns for connectivity to their printers (I think somone pointed this out before). Not that I'd get one, because I'm more than happy with my Apple iPod, thank you.

 

[c0n]

i reckon it will be between 500 and 600
in the uk it will probably be way over the exchange rate , like everything apple!

Jesus Is Coming Hide The Porn!

brilliant sig!!!!

 

[danny31292]

i would be embaresed buy my ipod from hp. seems so wrong

 

[dotmike]

The HP + Apple collaboration is an excellent thing IMHO.

It could even lead to a situation where, say, 3-5 years out, we see HP computers coming with Mac OS X 10.7 Lynx...

Reading between the lines of corporate activity, I have a feeling that Carly Fiorina doesn't like Bill Gates much. She was openly hostile to his promotion of the Tablet PC, and overtly supporting the very non-Microsoft music store could even be thought to be generating a bit of bad blood.

I see everything good coming from this. As loyal Apple supporters, we should give far more encouragement to HP than we should to Dell.

And also, we should take all those a**holes around here boasting about their 1680x1050 DELL monitors, and kick them out! Frickin' turncoats.

 

[mojohanna]

I think it is a good idea that HP get one.

I don't understand why HP gets theirs 9 months from now, why not sooner.

People are certainly dumb after all this time if they think about the ipod the way they do, it shoudn't even be geek knowledge how an ipod works.

I havent read the whole thread yet but there is one point that everyone seems to be missing..... In order for this to work, Apple needs to do one of two things.
1. port iPhoto over to windows. This may take the 9 months

2. update the iPod firmware/software so that it can use a 3rd party app to be able to sync photos from a PC. This could also take 9 months.

IMO, Apple will not dilute the message or the goal it is trying to achive and it wil port iPhoto over to PC's. Allowing a 3rd part app like a photo editor/syncer, would seem out of line with what they have done with music.

This also allows for time for HP to develop cameras that will be able to dump directly to an iPod photo and develop printers that will have the ability to have and ipod photo plugged directly into them. Now there would be no need for the stupid little screens for editing on a printer.

I can see this. Take iPod photo to grandmas house. She does not have a the savy to operate computer and pull photos and print etc. You plug your ipod photo into grandmas HP printer and select what photos to dump to printer. Print said photos for grandmas grand kid collection and move to top of grandma's inheritance list!!!!

(yes HP, I do charge a fee for advertising ideas!!!)