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HP iPod To Appear September 5?
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jacobj said:
Maybe Apple has added a second manufacturer, and that one will only make the one for HP. If Apple ever wanted to increase the output of theirs, they could easily do that. A lot of companies have two manufacturing partners. Either that or the current manufacturer has started another line.
Why force a price point? If HP wants to give it away for free, Apple still gets their money. That buyer might even buy some music from iTMS. I fail to see how Apple loses in how HP prices it. If HP sells it at a loss with no purchase required, Apple might see a drop in revenue from decreased sales of the iPOD. If HP is responsible for support though, then that helps recover some of the loss by lower overhead. Apple still sees iTMS sales though. The price Apple gets from HP for every hPOD sold is the same regardless of what HP sells it for.
Confirmation: CNET says HP's iPod will roll (EDIT
Friday
And there's TVs too!!
The CNET story is here, citing "sources." TVs are 42-inch plasma (ED and HD), 30-inch LCD, and 26-inch LCD.
EDIT:
The story also confirms that HP will be using the 4th-generation iPod, 20GB for $299 and 40GB for $399.
Also, more bluetooth printers.
EDIT:
The story first said the new product announcements were Sept. 5 but now it says Friday.
FridayAnd there's TVs too!!
The CNET story is here, citing "sources." TVs are 42-inch plasma (ED and HD), 30-inch LCD, and 26-inch LCD.
EDIT:
The story also confirms that HP will be using the 4th-generation iPod, 20GB for $299 and 40GB for $399.
Also, more bluetooth printers.
EDIT:
The story first said the new product announcements were Sept. 5 but now it says Friday.
HP iPods -- To Be Unveiled Friday!!
They updated that story ... the HP iPods are now being unveiled on Friday ....
... TOMORROW?!
Updated CNET Story
Porchland said:
They updated that story ... the HP iPods are now being unveiled on Friday ....
... TOMORROW?!
Updated CNET Story
I don't know ... I guess there's a difference between "unveiled" (ie, "here it is, lookie lookie") and "on sale" (ie, "in stores now")?
Maybe we'll just see it tomorrow, and it'll be in stores on Sept. 5 ... just a guess.
EDIT: Actually, it looks like there isn't a reference to Sept. 5 at all. Hmm.
Maybe we'll just see it tomorrow, and it'll be in stores on Sept. 5 ... just a guess.
EDIT: Actually, it looks like there isn't a reference to Sept. 5 at all. Hmm.
JoePike said:
Hey Joe. How many HP products have you EVER owned? If you can count them on one hand please drop the attitude. HP, at least in the past, made/s some seriously solid products. I'm still running a LaserJet printer from the early 90's that can still keep up with the best that is out there today. Talk to any tech about a LaserJet 4SI and ask them what they think and then you will have your answer on HP and their products. I have a HP Pocket PC that is 2 years old that has gotten the snot kicked out of it. Dropped, spilled on, crunched and it's still running like a champ to date.I have an HP camera that I toss in the glove compartment for random pictures. Its got through 100* to 30 weather over the last three years in that glove compartment and it is as solid today as the day I got it. We have HP servers lining one wall of our server room that are ROCK SOLID. In the 6 years we've had them we've had an occasional hard drive go bad that gets hot swapped but other then that running solid for 6 years with several air conditioning outages that has pumped the temp in there up to 100*-106* or so and still running flawless. We have a ton of laserjet's in my office that does some serious paper output and I can say without fail that at minimum 100,000 pages before I even have to consider touching any of them with a maintenance kit.
HP does more with tech then Apple ever has. With a few notable acceptations. Specifically their home consumer computers are for ****. Complete and total ****. The Pavilion line is the worst computer line I've ever seen short of the Presario. Beyond their computers their hardware has always been solid.
But otherwise if you look at its history you will see more firsts come out of that company then just about anyone else stopping short of comparing them to IBM. Over the years I've stated one comment on HP and I still believe it holds true today: "They make some dang good hardware, and some REALLY crappy software." Unfortunately their current PDA line leaves a whole HECK of a lot to be desired and I chalk that up to their head PDA/laptop lead jumping ship to go to Dell.
So please Joe get a clue before making baseless comments on a company you probably haven't spent squat on.
I was wonding why Apple's stock went up over four and three-quarter percent today with so litle major news at MacCentral...
Anyone remember UMAX?
I am also wondering why Apple would partner up with a different computer company to sell essentially the same thing. Are these new hPods only for that other portion of the market who still thinks the iPod is a Mac-only product? And as a previous poster stated: who would actually want an HP iPod anyway?
Could be a bad move, but I've been wrong before.
.narco
I am also wondering why Apple would partner up with a different computer company to sell essentially the same thing. Are these new hPods only for that other portion of the market who still thinks the iPod is a Mac-only product? And as a previous poster stated: who would actually want an HP iPod anyway?
Could be a bad move, but I've been wrong before.
.narco
JoePike said:
Yeah, I hate that as well. Its just about as bad as someone thinking "if its Apple it must be good."
*snicker*
tex210 said:those people on slashdot cannot say Apple is a music monopoly.
What in gods name are you talking about? Slashdotters will say anything, and they mean Itunes Store is. Apple still makes the money on sales of the Itunes store, even if its from an HP Itunes app.
Nothing has changed.
narco said:
The only way it really makes sense to me is if they come bundled with the computers. Either that or the blue iPods look seriously cool.
dontmatter said:
Because its not called an Ipod
HP gets to sell their computers and a music player (which will bring ppl to HP) that destorys all other ones in the marke. Its that simple, Apple makes money on the hardware.
i don't get it... doesn't apple want people to buy their ipods, not Hp's... i know some mac haters...dam those people, who won't buy any apple product because its apple but still, if poeple are using it on a pc, then they would buy the pc version from HP is apple gonig to stop making them for the pc....
puckhead193 said:
I can't see Apple hindering the OS on the iPOD to make one work with a Mac and the other a PeeCee. Too much work in coding, testing, etc. When it comes to repairing them, you would rather just have to repair one model then multiple. The plastics normally get replaced, now you add confusion but having different releases as well will really cause problems. The different generations are one thing.
What happens in one has a PeeCee buys the HP and then gets a Mac? Can't use the HP with the Mac?
Lanbrown said:
I don't think it matters whether it's an HP iPod or an Apple iPod - the use on a PC or Mac comes down to how the iPod itself is formatted. So, if the iPod was previously formatted for PC, it would have to be reformatted for Mac - regardless of whether it's an HP or an Apple iPod. That's my understanding, at least...
It's also very cool to hear about the webcast, etc. It's nice to see that HP s making this a somewhat major event, and isn't simply rolling out HP iPods without any fanfare. This will no doubt help sales, give the iPod even more coverage, and be a good thing in general for both Apple and HP.
Reduced Component Costs
One massive advantage Apple gains with the HP deal is further reduction in component costs which increases profitability for Apple. This deal has the potential to double iPod sales (whether Apple or HP branded), just like the huge bump the iTunes Music Store experienced when PC compatibility was announced.
This is a major deal for Apple.
Estimate 1,200,000 iPods and mini's this quarter and add 300,000 HP branded for a total of 1,500,000.
Christmas quarter will be amazing 1,750,000 Apples and 900,000 HP's for a total of 2,650,000.
Music store sales will skyrocket........that's another bonus in the deal.
One massive advantage Apple gains with the HP deal is further reduction in component costs which increases profitability for Apple. This deal has the potential to double iPod sales (whether Apple or HP branded), just like the huge bump the iTunes Music Store experienced when PC compatibility was announced.
This is a major deal for Apple.
Estimate 1,200,000 iPods and mini's this quarter and add 300,000 HP branded for a total of 1,500,000.
Christmas quarter will be amazing 1,750,000 Apples and 900,000 HP's for a total of 2,650,000.
Music store sales will skyrocket........that's another bonus in the deal.
Um, Apple will sell to HP at slightly below retail just like they sell to PC Connection, MacMall or Best Buy. HP makes money on the markup. Apple still makes money, just a little less than if they sell directly from their own stores or website.dontmatter said:
So, do you suppose the hPod will have blue earbuds and wires? Will Griffin make a blue hTrip FM transmitter?
The fact that only 50% of iPod sales are currently to WinPC users says something. With HP onboard selling them, perhaps that number will increase to 80% or something which makes more sense, considering the number of WinPC users. And soon, World Domination!