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That is my question

Is HP going their own way for a mobile OS? If so, than M$ has something more to worry about. Apple on the Apple front, Android sucking in developers, RIM still strong in Biz...Where does M$ fit now?

I think the biggest loser in all this is M$. Their mobile footprint is getting smaller by the moment.

Hmm... is HP really going to go against M$ & Win Mobile phone 7? That won't please the other Steve much at all. Or is HP just buying patents & engineerers? Interesting. Grab some popcorn.
 
It already exists in the HP Slate. Sadly, it's not a very good product. Windows 7, a great desktop OS, is just not suited for tablets. A modified version of webOS for a tablet could be really interesting, though.

Although, with Dell getting serious about the smartphone market (with their new Thunder, Flash and Smoke phones), HP may feel the need to match their competitor.

Have you used an HP Slate to have a frame of reference? If so could you possibly put up a review online so the rest of us can read it and make a determination for ourselves?
 
One loser buying another loser. :p

Don't HP have the biggest share of the PC market in the US? This is not any indication of the quality of those devices of course, but it does mean that they are not losers.

I don't see WebOS useful for ANYTHING other than a phone. It pretty much requires a constant internet connection. It's a WEB-OS. Unless you have a monthly 3G account for your tablet you'd be SOL. I couldn't imagine paying a monthly bill for my phone and tablet... A waste if you ask me.

But maybe they will make a tablet with a USB port that you can tether to your phone so you don't need two accounts. Or your tablet will become your new phone.

If you can't imagine paying a monthly bill for your phone and your tablet, I take it you won't be buying a 3G iPad then?
 
I'd rather see Palm and all their ideas burned to the ground than to see them go to an unimaginative derivative, box-maker like HP. :(
 
Maybe...

Interesting how everyone is talking about competition for the iPad when it's less than clear what that even means. The iPad is what it is. Integration with iTunes being very important and access to the Apps.
I think it will be very, very hard for any other company to make a touch tablet that finds a market. Maybe cheaper ones in the education market. But HP has little consumer strength so this must be an Anti RIM Anti-Android purchase. What's good for Apple is - a bunch of competitors slicing up the market Apple doesn't have. None of them strong enough to dent the Apple Mobile OS platform. And M$ still pretty much absent in the mobile realm.
A girl in my office just came in this morning with her new pre. It's actually very impressive i really enjoyed the little time I had with it. HP really scored with this one. If they add a web OS option to the slate, iPad may have some competion.
 
"struggling to reinvent itself as a smartphone company after being a major player in the PDA market"?!

Are you kidding? The TREO dominated the smartphone market for longer than the iPhone has.

But the smart phone market was so tiny back then and the TREO failed to make it grow much, so what does "dominating the market" even mean in that context?
 
But maybe they will make a tablet with a USB port that you can tether to your phone so you don't need two accounts. Or your tablet will become your new phone.

If you can't imagine paying a monthly bill for your phone and your tablet, I take it you won't be buying a 3G iPad then?

Interesting. The tethering idea is interesting. I just don't know how WebOS works without an internet connection. Although I like the idea. :) If they partnered with Sprint a good solution would be to advertise it with Wifi sharing to the EVO 4G.

As for the tablet being the new phone... Then you're just talking about a phone. Haha. The EVO 4G is what I see that being. A slightly bigger screen than the iPhone but still phone sized.

And iPad 3G, no way. :) If I did buy an iPad I'd get the Wifi one. If I'm at home I can use it on Wifi. I probably wouldn't take it out and about because I have email and internet on my iPhone and would just use that.
 
Slow because -

Slow because - it is not clear how they would sell them. To whom, to do what. A me-to product would be tough to pull off given the components and Apple media integration. I'm not saying the iPad is the BEST THING EVER, but that a knock-off, is a difficult thing to see. Can anyone go head-to-head with media integration and the number of Apps on the Apple Mobile Platform? Not really. So you end up with an internet device (hopefully with a good browser) that also has -- what? It has to do something more or add value. The market for iPad like devices just isn't that big (I know other disagree) in time it will be. But right now, who would run to Best Buy to buy a touch tablet device that basically does something kind of like the iPad? Does it run Word? Does it offer iTunes? It plays movies, that you have to rip onto it. I'm just saying...

Cool.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. It seems like there should be a lot of those from many companies. Why so few? I don't know.
 
if HP makes the slate with webOS properly integrated with it... ill buy it in a heartbeat... Ive been worrying about palm lately and have been looking into android via the EVO as a next phone to replace my Pre, but now I will have to wait and see what comes out in the next year... I just hope that between the 2 companies they can finally put out GOOD hardware to accompany the great OS.
 
As for the tablet being the new phone... Then you're just talking about a phone. Haha. The EVO 4G is what I see that being. A slightly bigger screen than the iPhone but still phone sized.

Dell have a new range of Android tablets coming out I believe with 3G in them. They are smaller than the iPad but bigger than the iPhone. The smallest one is just about able to fit in your pocket but only a big pocket, say the inside of a jacket. They are called Dell minis or maybe Dell Streak when they are available.
 
Slow because - it is not clear how they would sell them. To whom, to do what. A me-to product would be tough to pull off given the components and Apple media integration. I'm not saying the iPad is the BEST THING EVER, but that a knock-off, is a difficult thing to see. Can anyone go head-to-head with media integration and the number of Apps on the Apple Mobile Platform? Not really. So you end up with an internet device (hopefully with a good browser) that also has -- what? It has to do something more or add value. The market for iPad like devices just isn't that big (I know other disagree) in time it will be. But right now, who would run to Best Buy to buy a touch tablet device that basically does something kind of like the iPad? Does it run Word? Does it offer iTunes? It plays movies, that you have to rip onto it. I'm just saying...

someone who does not want to conform to the BS closed ecosystem that apple has created. Palm has been so open and allowed so many people to "tinker" with its OS, and the tinkering they have done has led to great improvements in the 10 months its been out through multiple software updates.. not just one each year... Apple's iron fist control over iPhone OS is terrible for anyone who actually wants to control their device (legally)...
 
Really?

2009 revenue:

Apple - $42.91 billion
HP - $114.55 billion

Yes, I know, figures aren't what they seem but HP is hardly a loser, fanboy.... But if it ain't Apple, it's craple, isn't it? ;)

Every HP laptop my friends or I bought were worthless. Harddrives burning out, backlights dying, bugs in HP bundled software... Wasn't worth it. Everyone ended up trashing or returning their HP's and getting Apple's. I've had better luck with Acer laptops...

Although, the HP's always look really nice, have nice specs and are well priced... I'm always tempted but past experience always reminds me why I don't buy. :)
 
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