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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/hp-were-doubling-down-on-webos-palm-that-was-the-whole-po/

We just spoke with both Brian Humphries, HP's Senior VP of Strategy and Corporate Development, and Palm CEO Jon Rubinstein, and came away with a pretty positive picture for the future of Palm. The money quote is that HP plans to be "doubling down on webOS," and that was confirmed in speaking with Palm's honcho, who says that "that was the whole point." Not only that, but we've confirmed on both ends that Jon will be staying on with the company, along with much of the existing Palm hierarchy. There are plenty of transition details to work out, but Jon says there will be lots of time for all that during regulatory and shareholder approval. The word is that Palm's existing hardware roadmap is basically untouched at this point by this acquisition, but the good news on the HP end of things is that the company sees webOS as a "prized asset," and they intend to "scale it across multiple connected devices." That sounds like tablets to us, and HP didn't beat back that assumption. On the Palm hardware end, Jon is very fond of saying "scale," referring to the money and manufacturing resources at HP's disposal, but he also says that he sees Palm working hand in hand with HP on devices. One point that both companies were less clear on was the Palm branding itself -- you know, whether Palm will stay Palm. Both Brian and Jon said those kinds of details would be worked out as the acquisition went forward, but offered no concrete comment on it otherwise.

Money-wise we asked if Jon thought HP could provide the sort of "ammunition" to beat Apple, Google, and Microsoft at their own mobile game, and Jon says "I don't think HP would do this unless they were willing to make the kind of investment necessary to win." HP calls webOS a "compelling operating system," but that Palm didn't have the money to compete and "scale it across multiple form factors," and that it's exactly HP's financial wherewithal, brand, and corporate culture that it brings to the table. HP and Palm won't comment specifically on the forthcoming device roadmap, but HP did confirm that it had tested the platform "to make sure it scales." They keep saying "scale," but all we're hearing is "tablet."


The phone industry is just a whole lot more interesting than any other tech sector for me at this point haha.
 
Can't wait to see what comes out of Palm now.

The Palm Pavilion POS-9000

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HP's idea of innovation:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/hp-slate-leaks-its-way-into-the-wild-meh/

But hey, acquiring Palm changes everything! We all know how prescient and avant-garde HP is, after all.
 
Palm was a major player in both the PDA and smartphone arenas. The intro paragraph to this post downplays their success with the Treo family.

Oddly enough, HTC had a hand in the Treo design haha.

I hope they leave palm mostly untouched (at least for now) and treat them as a different arm of their company HP shouldn't "corporate" the brand too much.
 
Now instead of just crappy HP notebooks and computers we'll also get crappy HP phones too! Yay!

Say goodbye to webOS as you know it folks.
 
This really isn't surprising at all considering Dell's recent smartphone and tablet announcements. This way HP can quickly play catchup and immediately has two decent smartphones (the pre and pixi) without having to do any r&d. The WebOS is very solid and like others have stated with more money behind it it could become a solid competitor. Or the hardware could always be used to run android. Not a bad buy at all. Palm had solid technology but no cash. HP has cash and no solid technology. God I hate HP machines lol.
 
No doubt apple has the best marketing when it comes to mobile phones.. no one can even come close, but when you compare what palm has now versus their creepy pale chick, and verizons pathetic attempt to market a phone to middle aged women when it should have been directed toward 20-30 year old men the new ads are finally something that shows off webos in a decent light.

check out:

http://www.precentral.net/palms-movies-ad-makes-it-set

http://www.precentral.net/french-palm-ad-does-webos-right

Never saw those, and they are much better.
 
Why spend a billion dollars on a company when you could have gotten android for 0 dollars? :confused:
 
Can't wait to see what comes out of Palm now.

Isn't that really the biggest question with this deal? There is no denying that WebOS is a cool OS _now_, but with OS4 coming soon they are going to lose one of their major competitive advantages (not to mention the other features). If HP thinks they can simply slap WebOS onto some devices and call it good, then they just wasted $1.2b. I see them either treating WebOS as an OS and doing incremental updates and it will die in 3-5 years or perhaps they actually have plans to really build up an "ecosystem" around WebOS and attempt to provide a complete experience (e.g. app store, hardware, support) effectively mimicking Apple. I only see the latter having the remotest chance of being effective.

Short term I think they would benefit greatly by getting carriers to offer no contract plans since one of the biggest impediments of WebOS has been the dread of locking into a phone with no life and being stuck for 2 years.
 
How does the UI multitask? I always thought that it ran processes remotely or something...

If that's not the case then it would probably run fine on a tablet. Frankly, I think it's a beautiful OS.

Nope, it runs processes locally and multi-tasks really well. It's nothing like the Web Apps that Apple tried to force early iPhone adopters to run. It's a common misconception amongst (mainly, it seems) iPhone owners that the apps are like the Web Apps of old on the iPhone where nothing could be further from the truth

The Pre is a great little phone and games such as Need for Speed, etc are just as good on the Pre as the iPhone. With the might of HP behind them, it could well be the biggest competitor to the iPhone in the next few years...
 
This is truly disappointing. HP is garbage, their computers are garbage, and they owe me for two days of important data loss after their faulty computer died on me.

I really wanted HTC to buy Palm. :(
 
And your TV?

Your anger issues aside (by the way if you don't like Apple products why are you on this board? And if you do, you certainly have some self hate about it!) The closed APple system is not a big deal to anyone but - a segment of developers.

I have never heard, my mom, my sister, my brother say "This closed system just isn't good! I hate when things work." If you want to install your own graphics boards the Mac was never the computer for you. But for many people ease of use and a mobile system where security is a number one priority wins the day.

Palm was 'so open' but it didn't help them. And it wasn't just the marketing. It's that they offer a solution to no problem. It's me-to design. There is a market for that. But don't mix up the value of a working system, robust platform and strong security with the ability to install everything you want. When you buy a Honda, you most likely expect it to have the engine Honda designed and spec'd for it.


someone who does not want to conform to the BS closed ecosystem that apple has created. Palm has been so open and allowed so many people to "tinker" with its OS, and the tinkering they have done has led to great improvements in the 10 months its been out through multiple software updates.. not just one each year... Apple's iron fist control over iPhone OS is terrible for anyone who actually wants to control their device (legally)...
 
So great

No one bought them.

Does the market count for anything? It may be a fine little phone in a world of fine little phones. But it wasn't the second coming for gawds sake or HP wouldn't have just bailed their butt out of hock.

Nope, it runs processes locally and multi-tasks really well. It's nothing like the Web Apps that Apple tried to force early iPhone adopters to run. It's a common misconception amongst (mainly, it seems) iPhone owners that the apps are like the Web Apps of old on the iPhone where nothing could be further from the truth

The Pre is a great little phone and games such as Need for Speed, etc are just as good on the Pre as the iPhone. With the might of HP behind them, it could well be the biggest competitor to the iPhone in the next few years...
 
Your anger issues aside (by the way if you don't like Apple products why are you on this board? And if you do, you certainly have some self hate about it!) The closed APple system is not a big deal to anyone but - a segment of developers.

I have never heard, my mom, my sister, my brother say "This closed system just isn't good! I hate when things work." If you want to install your own graphics boards the Mac was never the computer for you. But for many people ease of use and a mobile system where security is a number one priority wins the day.

Palm was 'so open' but it didn't help them. And it wasn't just the marketing. It's that they offer a solution to no problem. It's me-to design. There is a market for that. But don't mix up the value of a working system, robust platform and strong security with the ability to install everything you want. When you buy a Honda, you most likely expect it to have the engine Honda designed and spec'd for it.
You've clearly never used WebOS.

Engadget and Gizmodo (along with many others) didn't sing WebOS as a platform praises for no reason.

Its a worthy platform and far from a "me too." God that line is getting old from iPhone fanatics. Me too's were the samsung instincts. Android and WebOS as well as windows 7 all do things that iPhone does not and offer a compelling experience.
 
someone who does not want to conform to the BS closed ecosystem that apple has created. Palm has been so open and allowed so many people to "tinker" with its OS, and the tinkering they have done has led to great improvements in the 10 months its been out through multiple software updates.. not just one each year... Apple's iron fist control over iPhone OS is terrible for anyone who actually wants to control their device (legally)...

So don't buy an iPhone, simple!
 
God for it

I meant - "Good for it - " The 'it' being the Web OS. But God is for it too.

I'm happy to hear that.

Too bad it tanked.

Good luck with HP. I mean, there's a company with vision.

I hope it proves a wonderful, open, robust platforms for months to come.

And PS. I did play with it. It is fine. Nothing to wet your pants over.

You've clearly never used WebOS.

Engadget and Gizmodo (along with many others) didn't sing WebOS as a platform praises for no reason.

Its a worthy platform and far from a "me too." God that line is getting old from iPhone fanatics. Me too's were the samsung instincts. Android and WebOS as well as windows 7 all do things that iPhone does not and offer a compelling experience.
 
No one bought them.

Does the market count for anything? It may be a fine little phone in a world of fine little phones. But it wasn't the second coming for gawds sake or HP wouldn't have just bailed their butt out of hock.

They marketed it very badly, mismanaged the developers, signed a deal with the wrong phone companies, produced the Palm Pixi which offered much less for only a small difference in price. Palm Pre was a good phone but Palm really messed it all up.
 
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