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Originally posted by SPG
Since you can already get an iPod for windows, I don't exactly get the need to make a blue one.

Yes - why bother with this ugly hPod thing?

Carly Fiorentina has been taking public speaking tips from Steve Jobs, too!

I wonder where this is all going to go?
 
i think this is great news!
this mean that millions more people will have an ipod and, even better, itunes. more profits for apple and selling more ipods will mean that they can bring the price down and still sit comfortably in the realm of profitability.

though it wil be interesting to see how hp prices their ipod. hopefully the 2 companies, apple & hp, will have similar prices.

-dornball
 
hp branded
 

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Re: WMA on iPod

Originally posted by PDubNYC
as I tried to submit, Thurrott is reporting on winnetmag.com the following:

"Exclusive: HP Working to Get WMA on iPod......

The company will be working with Apple to add support for Microsoft's superior Windows Media Audio (WMA) format to the iPod by mid-year. You heard it here first."
http://winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/41423/41423.html

That could open up the audience for the iPod significantly, in my opinion

Superior WMA?! is that a joke?
 
if i had to pick between the colors apple chose on the minis:eek: and the hp blue, i'd take the hp blue


quote:Originally posted by mrsebastian
from the picture it looks like **** course it could look better in real life and we'll see. i'm wondering however what the storage capacity and pricing will be?
 
WMA on iPod

regardless of your opinion of Thurrott or whether WMA is a superior format, I think that it would be nothing but a good thing to support multiple formats. I have friends that have their music in WMA format (keep your knee-jerk reactions to yourselves) and that is the only thing holding them back from buying an iPod.

Bottom line, more formats=more customers for Apple.
 
Who would you rather have "controlling" your music? A company known for buggy, bloated, and security-challenged software? Or a company famous for innovation, easy-of-use, and products that are on everyone's wishlist? :D
 
Ugly, but I'm sure someone will find it pleasing for them.

But it really is just a blue iPod... I was picturing a bit of a form change or something.

scem0
 
Black would have been a nicer color, but really, I am not too worked up about the color as I like the white iPod the best.

I think this deal is great, but I am left questioning one thing, as many have. Why is there going to be an HP iPod when the current iPod is already Windows compatable. If it were up to me, I would have had a time period, just like last fall for student who bought a laptop, where if a person bought an HP computer the could get a huge discount off of an iPod. Many would buy the iPod and the Apple symbol would get flashed around more in the PC community.

In all, I think the move, whichever way approached, is a great thing for Apple.
 
I hope Carly is not just blowing smoke and it was Apple that brought this to HP. It would mean that Apple is aggressively looking for partners to adopt their technology instead of just hoping the consumers stay with them. The more PC vendors that put iTunes and iTMS on their desktops the better. The more companies that adopt AAC instead of WMA the better still. And the move of companies like HP to market Apple products which will bring more financial resources to Apple's continued R&D is the best hope for the future in all of this.
 
Originally posted by Maclarny
Hmmm...now that I tihnk about this new HP iPod I have some concerns. Doesn't this seem a lot like when apple started liscensing it's own OS to ther companies. Could Apple be pitching off a really good product only to have their own profits get sucked away?

Little bit of difference here. I didn't see anything that said Apple sold them rights to make their own, they are selling them the iPods.

So apple is making money on every HP transaction. Where as last time Apple licensed the software - which has a minimal cost most likely and the clones were able to make all they want on the hardware
 
I'm disappointed. Not by the announced HP deal-- that rocks. I'm disappointed that the Apple rumor mill still hasn't produced an HP-buys-Apple rumor yet! Slackers!

I'm sure Fiorina is getting bored not having a nice big battle with her board over an acquisition, and is probably all set to spice things up again.

So what's next? Just to stoke the rumor fire, I'm gonna guess an HP-branded xServe G5 cluster that they'll install as part of a service contract.
 
Re: WMA on iPod

Originally posted by PDubNYC
regardless of your opinion of Thurrott or whether WMA is a superior format, I think that it would be nothing but a good thing to support multiple formats. I have friends that have their music in WMA format (keep your knee-jerk reactions to yourselves) and that is the only thing holding them back from buying an iPod.

Bottom line, more formats=more customers for Apple.

I agree that its good for compatibility, however audio tests have proven AAC the winner in terms of quality.
 
Re: WMA on iPod

From a marketing perspective, there are good reasons to play WMA, because that would pull Microsoft's last rug out from under them. If I were SJ, and if I wanted to stick it to Microsoft in the music world I would...

1) Build up the iPod into the most popular music player (done)

2) Build up the ITMS into the most popular online music store (done)

3) Let them criticize the only "flaw" being that it doesn't play Microsoft's proprietary format (done)

4) Suddenly allow the iPod to play WMA via a firmware update, in a final death blow (pending?)

When I look at the business model Apple has chosen, I don't see why this wouldn't work. We all are aware that the ITMS breaks even or at best makes a small profit, and the money is in the iPods. You don't want to sell music in WMA format, because you want the iPods to sell... but why not let the iPod play WMA? The only thing I can think of is that Microsoft would want a royalty or licensing fee, but if Apple came to them now, Microsoft can't deny them or gouge them without being dragged into court after their statements about "choice" being so important. Plus, I imagine if you just want a license to decode instead of encode, it wouldn't cost much.

I personally believe that the ITMS is the best music store out there, and I know SJ agrees. Let customers try them all with their iPod, and they will use the best service (or a combination of them all), but the important thing is...they have an iPod.

Now is the perfect time for the death blow, with the upcoming Pepsi promotion and the new HP crossover. Apple can completely take over the market by opening the iPod to WMA, and Microsoft has basically challenged them to so they can't get in the way. Microsoft's predictable behavior has them in a real pickle, but they've walked themselves into a trap.
 
Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Um - let's not get too high and mighty here. HP's PC's may be a dime-a-dozen, but they have been inovators in a lot of markets since 1939 (and a garage start-up just like Apple)

I also like HP stuff and have been using various HP printers and scanners for years.
However, her statements in the video clip clearly contradict themselves. In the opening she says how HP looked at Apple's system and found it superior, then she goes on about how Apple "came" to HP because of HP's engineering and integration skills. As is the iPod and iTunes runs on Macs and Windows, HP is doing nothing but repackaging it.

BTW, none of your stats you posted have anything to do with innovation... and no, I am not saying Apple invented the player market either, they just made a very successful one.
 
It has been my experience that HP printers don't play well with Mac OS X, though. My family's all in one doesn't work with Panther, only Jaguar, and my girlfriend has tried two different kinds of HP printers, one of which came with her iMac when she bought it at CompUSA as a package deal. I always assumed that HP just didn't play well with Apple, so this is a bit of a surprise.
 
Hmmm, I suppose Microsoft would want the iPod to play WMA, because their control of the format means they will be collecting royalties from every non-Apple online store for each song sold... and one royalty per iPod. They just wouldn't be the market leader, and I know ultra-competitive Bill's ears are steaming at that very thought. They will make bad business decisions just so they can "win" something.

Wow, a win/win situation in my book... anyone else know why Apple would not want to support WMA at this point in the game? One or two years earlier and I would understand, but the time is ripe.
 
Well, that thing does not impress me much. The "real" ipod looks much cooler. Moreover, its blue colour cannot beat the pink of the mini ipods ;-)
 
Originally posted by Mr.Hey
Apple will move to the all new concept design of the iPod mini and will abandon the current design; allowing HP to continue to market the pervious while making money off both (brilliant).

Now that's interesting. I love it when a strategy appears more like a game plan. Cunning, very cunning indeed.
 
If Apple was ever sold or merged with anyone I think it would be IBM.

Just my opinion.

I rather see press pic then this video capture.

But it looks almost like a blue granite style colour. I like it. I would buy one if I was in the market for one. Is it me or does the back of the HP iPod look like it says 10GB??

I could see HP selling G5 PM's and PB's in the near future but only with a name change and colour change.

I wonder if Compaq will end up being part of the HP iPod and iTunes deal later on??


I could see the iPaq dropping it's current OS and picking up a OSX mini OS.
 
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