I think it's awsome that this deal is happening, though I'd never get an HP iPod. I'm quite happy with my new 20giger which I got today :-D
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Perhaps it's going to be called a HiPod. Pease note the capitalization.
Back in 2002 many of us were questioning Ms. Fiorina's judgment in the acquisition of Comapq. In my eyes, this redeams her. Right now, this will bring the Apple experience to a much larger audience. In the future, this will be more than just iPods. Once the shareholders wrap their minds around this, they will be very excited. With the proper license, I think an HP branded Mac system would be killer! Remember, The Woz worked at HP before starting Apple with the other Steve. The genealogy is closer than you think.
Edit: 1992-2002? I'm always in the wrong decade.
Back in 2002 many of us were questioning Ms. Fiorina's judgment in the acquisition of Comapq. In my eyes, this redeams her. Right now, this will bring the Apple experience to a much larger audience. In the future, this will be more than just iPods. Once the shareholders wrap their minds around this, they will be very excited. With the proper license, I think an HP branded Mac system would be killer! Remember, The Woz worked at HP before starting Apple with the other Steve. The genealogy is closer than you think.
Edit: 1992-2002? I'm always in the wrong decade.
Who cares about the color, its not like any of you Mac people (myself included) has to buy one. I think the fact that a major PC company is supporting Apple Computer on anything is a breakthrough. I am willing to bet that any new idea Apple has to make money like the iTMS that they will make it so both windows and mac users have access to it. I never thought they would make so many inroads into the PC market as they have in the past few years. I don't buy HP products and I don't like the color, but I love where Apple is going with this. Consumers are smart enough to know who makes the iPod and if they love the thing then next time they will get an Apple one because they want a prettier color.
Re: Re: WMA vs AAC
Exactly, Apple has a real stake in AAC and everyone else, has thus farwith the wierd exception of Realhooked their stars to WMA. If Apple can retain the market with AAC this not only breaks WMA's hold on music, it may also break its hold on burgeoning media and bring Quicktime to the forefront. If this happens it looks a lot less important to use Windows Media Player at all, which means sites like C|Net and NPR may revert to Quicktime. If this trend can continue, then the Mac is suddenly in a much better position.
Exactly, Apple has a real stake in AAC and everyone else, has thus farwith the wierd exception of Realhooked their stars to WMA. If Apple can retain the market with AAC this not only breaks WMA's hold on music, it may also break its hold on burgeoning media and bring Quicktime to the forefront. If this happens it looks a lot less important to use Windows Media Player at all, which means sites like C|Net and NPR may revert to Quicktime. If this trend can continue, then the Mac is suddenly in a much better position.
This is one of the things that came to mind when I heard this iPod deal.
Ironically, with Microsoft's help optimizing Virtual PC to work with some special video chip in the HPiMac or just a really fast iMac, they can sell OS X systems that come with VPC and sort of be like those dual boot systems from long ago. The PC side would only be marketed as a compatibility layer and not a true PC, they would sell you on the idea of using all the iApps plus you can keep using all that crappy software you had on your PC too. (except games)
Originally posted by jrv3034
CompUSA without what intelligence?
I know it sounds unfeasible, but it's true.
Stepping into PC World - or the vast majority of specialised retailers in the UK - exposes the customer to a variety of stereotypes.
Firstly, there is a layer of people who are vaguely knowledgable (i.e. they know where the power switch is, or what an angle grinder is supposed to do).
Secondly, there is a layer of bluffers whose incompetence can be uncovered in a few choice questions by the cognoscenti, but who are totally capable of sucking your average customer into a world of FUD and upselling.
Thirdly, there is the "High Fidelity" group: Anyone who's seen the film will understand the reference; there's a couple of sneering smartass types, a socially deficient nerd and a manager totally incapable of controlling the whole sorry mess.
When I'm Prime Minister, practically every single last one of them will go up against a wall
Eight pages and no one has (visibly) linked this? You guys are falling down on the job.
As the Apple Turns had two excellent scenes on this whole HP iPod thing:
http://www.appleturns.com/
They're currently on the front page, not sure how to get a "date-independent" link.
--Cless
As the Apple Turns had two excellent scenes on this whole HP iPod thing:
http://www.appleturns.com/
They're currently on the front page, not sure how to get a "date-independent" link.
--Cless
because casual, cool people choose apple, or at least a linux or BSD. but the bad news, just think, the Mac BU of MS must attract the most casual, most cool, of the windows world.
to any windows users, she was cool smooth and hip, and he was exited to be there.....
Fairplay isn't Apple's DRM
Fairplay isn't Apple's DRM, they are liscensing it from a company named Veridisc, and it's not an exclusive deal, anyone can use it
Veridisc's website http://64.244.235.240/
Fairplay isn't Apple's DRM, they are liscensing it from a company named Veridisc, and it's not an exclusive deal, anyone can use it
Veridisc's website http://64.244.235.240/
Never underestimate the power of blue.
In a poll conducted right here, a solid 43% picked blue as their most wanted iPod color! Nothing else came close.
If the Cylon Red control button lights are replaced with either white or blue, I'm buying like three dozen of 'em (or at least one anyway).
In a poll conducted right here, a solid 43% picked blue as their most wanted iPod color! Nothing else came close.
If the Cylon Red control button lights are replaced with either white or blue, I'm buying like three dozen of 'em (or at least one anyway).
This is hardly like the whole "clones" situation. I imagine Apple's margins will be slightly smaller, but keep in mind this is no different from the original iPod except a different color and a different logo stamped on the back. The hardware, software, even button layout is all exactly the same.
I think its kind of a weird partnership, since HP (like most other PC companies) is striving towards the same "digital hub" that Apple is. It's good for Apple, though, to establish market share--hook first time users. The very worst thing that could happen now is to have Apple's store get excluded because its not WMA. Then all the other stores would crowd out Apple's business since users would start having WMA libraries and would be loathe to switch over.
So in the short term its great, but only for a couple years at most. Apple will be competing with HP in many other arenas, and Apple's ultimate goal is to sell Macs. I'm curious to see where this ends up.
Smurfpod!
Yes! Yes! Yes! ROFL
Originally posted by hokka
The perfect nickname for this hPod would be:
SmurfPod
Yes! Yes! Yes! ROFL
AHEM!
I think you mean MEGAhertz hard drives.
This an apple forums after all, and most of us are still on g3/g4's.
Nice find. I haven't been visiting AtAT enough lately.
Here are links to both stories:
Who? When? Whuzza? (1/09/04)
Skip Copying, Go For Cloning (1/08/04)
that is excactly how i think it is
as an additional term i could think of HP paying apple a fixed price for each one of these HPods and even if they sell it for less that wouldn't hurt apple because they'll get their money directly from HP ;-) in my opinion this is a very smart move...No, I think Apple is just selling the iPod through different channels and under a different name. This is very different to selling the iPod OS and then letting HP make the hardware. Apple is making the hardware and must obviously be making a required profit margin. It is probably not as high as selling the iPod via the online store, but it is probably closer to the margins from selling at Target or similar places.
This will also drive iTMS
Although there are concerns about the iPod itself, it probably tells us a couple of things.
1. Apple has a 4th generation iPod in the works. Hopefully, with the iPod Mini's scroll wheel.
2. Apple is really pushing the iTMS
The first one is obvious, but I think the second is more important. HP will ship iTunes as the standard player with all of their computers and will sell the HiPod to go with them, probably even as bundle with printers.
This means you will see the HiPod in Walmart and that has to be good for sales.
Jobs mentioned in his keynote that Apple were working on eliminating the other hard disk iPods and this is probably his strategy. By selling a basic 3rd generation iPod at a baseline profit margin they will build the iPod/iTMS brand name and so increase the use of iTMS, which in turn will drive sales of the latest iPods because they will be the combination to have.
Did anyone see that thing Gates was touting by Creative. It looks like an ARCHOS rip-off. I wonder how many virus will be available by the time it ships in Q3 2004.
Although there are concerns about the iPod itself, it probably tells us a couple of things.
1. Apple has a 4th generation iPod in the works. Hopefully, with the iPod Mini's scroll wheel.
2. Apple is really pushing the iTMS
The first one is obvious, but I think the second is more important. HP will ship iTunes as the standard player with all of their computers and will sell the HiPod to go with them, probably even as bundle with printers.
This means you will see the HiPod in Walmart and that has to be good for sales.
Jobs mentioned in his keynote that Apple were working on eliminating the other hard disk iPods and this is probably his strategy. By selling a basic 3rd generation iPod at a baseline profit margin they will build the iPod/iTMS brand name and so increase the use of iTMS, which in turn will drive sales of the latest iPods because they will be the combination to have.
Did anyone see that thing Gates was touting by Creative. It looks like an ARCHOS rip-off. I wonder how many virus will be available by the time it ships in Q3 2004.
I am pretty sure the original style writers were based on Canon Technology. The one I had was the similar to the BJ-10. I remember Canon cartridges were cheaper. I think it did one page per minute "high" quality and 2 pages at "Draft."
Didn't Apple get the laserwriter technology from Xerox about the same time they got the GUI technology?
From what i gathered from the article, the bigger deal here is HP installing iTunes on their pcs and laptops in the future. In doing so, they allow the casual pc user to discover Apple software and perhaps the iPod itself, when they were previously oblivious to its existence.