Even though he is wrong, it's not really a big stretch to see that he was actually comparing Android to the iPhone OS.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
HTC Cites Patents Obtained From Google in New Lawsuit Against Apple
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Even though he is wrong, it's not really a big stretch to see that he was actually comparing Android to the iPhone OS.
Good to see you are seeing some sense that isn't Apple bias.
Edit WTF... you're on ignore.... how can I still see your posts :/
I think you'll find Apple has started more of these little patent lawsuits than HTC...so based on your own definition of 'patent troll', Apple is worse
Both HTC and Apple are product vendors. They can't be patent trolls.
Nah. He probably just actually read the book and understands what Big Brother actually was.
Good to see you are seeing some sense that isn't Apple bias.
Edit WTF... you're on ignore.... how can I still see your posts :/
It's magical. Just like my sarcasm.
Last edited:
I read the book as well. And I see the similarities, far more than the picture below:
Or this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-YesqzvNk
You're assuming (a) the Android work doesn't predate Apple's work and (b) that they don't share a common ancestor.
Apple decides what software can be installed on iPhones and other iOS devices. Sounds like Big Brother to me.
I think every company has the right to defend their IP. Period.
I don't think it should be allowed to use patents given after a lawsuit was filed. That is a CYA move and there should be some sort of timeframe factored in.
And, if HTC is allowed to use these patents to defend/sue Apple, then any decision should be reversed if they give them back to Google in a few months.
But really, defending your IP is the right you get when you innovate.
I don't think it should be allowed to use patents given after a lawsuit was filed. That is a CYA move and there should be some sort of timeframe factored in.
And, if HTC is allowed to use these patents to defend/sue Apple, then any decision should be reversed if they give them back to Google in a few months.
But really, defending your IP is the right you get when you innovate.
How does HTC have any standing in court? I thought Google bought them. Perhaps Google has licensed them to HTC? In any event, shouldn't Google be the one suing Apple?
Right, but to simply say it was only the capacitive screen that made the iPhone a success, is a bit closed minded IMO. Touch screen interfaces on PDAs and smart phones existed before the iPhone. One could also argue that they borrowed much of the interface from their Newton product that pre-dates the modern Smart Phone.
It was the entire package Apple provided, not just the screen, that made the iPhone the success it was. Multi-Touch interactions, orientation sensors, proximity sensors, software, and arguably attractive hardware made the iPhone stand out as a complete device.
If it was just the screen that made the iPhone such a sucsess, why was the first android phone the clunky G1, and not the more elegant (and much later) Nexus 1?
More on Topic to this thread, As I said in an earlier post, I have no issues with a company protecting a patent they came up with. Companies on the Android platform have indeed made added advancements in Multi-Touch capable OS devices, and should also protect those features as Apple has theirs.
Yep. That's exactly the same as a totalitarian dictator of a ubiquitous surveillance state. How could I have missed that?
Wait, except for the fact that your statement isn't true. You can install whatever software you want on an iPhone. Even Android!
Apple isn't limiting your personal freedoms or keeping you under constant surveillance. There's no political or social oppression going on here. You can choose to not buy Apple products.
They're tech companies. If they choose a vetted App-Store model, that isn't oppressive, it's just adopting a standard.
Either that or you need to put down your mobile device once in a while.
Thanks for the clarification. We really needed that in the conversation.
And yes...Android is clearly a copy of iOS, which first appeared in the 2007 iphone.
How so ?
My iPhone has no widgets, it has no configurable desktops, it doesn't have multi-tasking (only task backgrounding) in user applications. It has these bad notifications that pop over whatever I'm doing all the time and need to be manually dismissed...
Android has all these things. I don't get where you get it's a copy of iOS since it has tons of features iOS doesn't have.
Also, Android is a VM based operating system, where code (written in the Java language) is compiled to bytecode executed by Davlik. While there is an NDK, that is not the preferred method of writing and building apps. Compared to iOS which uses a traditional compiled language that is compiled directly to machine code...
Again, no copying there.
So what is it about Android you find was copied from iOS ?
In this economy
I would ask which company creates more jobs?
Apple Vs HTC?
Sure, apple is making lots of millionaires lately but jobs? Also remember outside of US (other than manufacturing, and the stores) apple does not create any jobs...
Apple wants to keep all the money to itself. Investors are happy but not everyone.
I am not sure whom to support.
I would ask which company creates more jobs?
Apple Vs HTC?
Sure, apple is making lots of millionaires lately but jobs? Also remember outside of US (other than manufacturing, and the stores) apple does not create any jobs...
Apple wants to keep all the money to itself. Investors are happy but not everyone.
I am not sure whom to support.
This is funny, in the threads regarding the dispute between Apple and Samsung HTC is usually used as an example of how you can do something different from Apple, that Samsung didn't have to do it so similar.
Now in this thread regarding the dispute between HTC and Apple all of a sudden HTC is just as much of a blatant copy cat as Samsung is, apperently. Not surprising here though.
Where will it stop? I mean, now you use blackberry and WP as an example of how something can be done different but what will you say when Apple decides to sue MS? My bet is you will forget how you used MS to support Apples case, just as you (you as in Apple fanboys in general) now forgot how HTC was used as an example, and go with the usual "Good! MS should learn to iinnovate instead of copying".
Maaany of Apple's "innovations" are in reality Apple's aquisitions / some one elses innovation. What do we know about the terms HTC got these patents? Why assume they were just given them for free?
That's a good one! "If you don't consider all the jobs Apple creates, than they don't create any jobs."
If I may try to guess, nobody created more jobs than IBM/MS. Then you can also try checking this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_employees
That's a good one! "If you don't consider all the jobs Apple creates, than they don't create any jobs."
you have to consider Apple had their employees in 2007 (before iPhone introduction) vs 2011.
I think (guess) they added about 20,000 employees or less
definitely they do not share their lions of share of profits with the suppliers/vendor/retailers ...
I am not arguing, definitely apple is not like HP/Dell/Lenovo
when you talk about employment, you need to talk about the whole ecosystem.