This BS has to stop, does Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft sound like big brothers because you can't install whatever you want in their video game systems?
They don't, do they?
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HTC Cites Patents Obtained From Google in New Lawsuit Against Apple
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This BS has to stop, does Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft sound like big brothers because you can't install whatever you want in their video game systems?
They don't, do they?
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meh all those arguments of who copied who r pointless, let alone on a board of one of the parties. this just ends up as a endless argument with no winner, why bother trying to change anyones opinion. its not up for us to decide ^^
all i can say is that i'm glad for apples involvement in the phone industry, other wise id still be paying 5 bucks for 1mb of data ^^ but i cant say i dont admire or miss certain features that android has to offer like widgets. both have their flaws but im glad we have both to chose from
meh all those arguments of who copied who r pointless, let alone on a board of one of the parties. this just ends up as a endless argument with no winner, why bother trying to change anyones opinion. its not up for us to decide ^^
all i can say is that i'm glad for apples involvement in the phone industry, other wise id still be paying 5 bucks for 1mb of data ^^ but i cant say i dont admire or miss certain features that android has to offer like widgets. both have their flaws but im glad we have both to chose from
Common sense, a rarity in these forums now days.
Anyways, I always respect your posts, as you inject logic into these forums, which in recent years have been overrun by extreme zealots.
Apple doesn't employ anyone to make it's products, it out sources that. And in doing so it demonstrates it's support for a communist regiem who has deplorable human rights records, just like a lot of western companies.
Perhaps you should remember that when you talk about the jobs a western company has generated....
Forcing the blockade of a launch of a 7" tablet stating consumers will confuse it with you 9" tablet is not innovating or patent trolling. It is a direct attempt to prevent loss of market share, and displays your incapability to innovate instead to keep that share.
Perhaps you should remember that when you talk about the jobs a western company has generated....
Forcing the blockade of a launch of a 7" tablet stating consumers will confuse it with you 9" tablet is not innovating or patent trolling. It is a direct attempt to prevent loss of market share, and displays your incapability to innovate instead to keep that share.
The multiple "Go HTC" claims are bugging me.
The bully analogy is ridiculous. Try saying that when everybody is copying answers from your test, and when you try to complain to the teacher, the teacher says "Now now nobody likes a tattletale."
Say you're an artist. You drop an album with a bunch of killer hooks. Like Queen's "Under Pressure" caliber stuff. You're successful and make money.
People start releasing albums with songs that copy elements of your songs. Lyrics, melodies, "ting ting ting t-t-ting ting. TING TING ting ting t-t-ting ting. It's a totally different song" kinda stuff, worse really, because they're actually staying in the same genre as you, not only copying you but watering down the things that make you distinctive.
Would anybody have your back? Or would people be saying "hey, competition is good, you need to play nice and share." Not exactly the fundamentals of capitalism there.
Seriously, this whole thing about claiming apple is a bad sport is tantamount to communism. Like Hitler. Godwin's law invoked, can the discussion be over yet? Kthanks.
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Clearly Apple isn't worried about the new 7" tab since the first one was such a smash hit. It's a matter of defending your patents/trademarks; if you're not diligent in defending them at every turn, you lose your right to defend them at all.
Apple clearly has no problems innovating. but if they didn't defend their patents/trademarks, the plagiarism would only get worse.
everybody else seems to have trouble innovating, so if Apple can enforce their patents and keep the industry on their toes, that's when we will see more innovation. The longer the competitors are allowed to copy, the less true innovation we will see.
but by all means. keep on saying that "competition is good" and that "apple is stifling innovation"
it amazes me how many people deny their love for apple. Who in their right mind would go to a company user site to ridicule said company? I would never waste my time going to a company user site that I'm not interested in.
embrace your feelings wikis, just do the
Steve invented the phone, not Alexander Graham Bell. Apple invented mankind, hence the lawsuits against everyone, even though they copied many things from other companies, it's ok because it is Apple and Apple can do no wrong. The rest of the world is messed up, not Apple.
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You have the choice not to use their product therefor they cannot be 'Big Brother' in the context of the book 1984.
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You have the choice not to use their product therefor they cannot be 'Big Brother' in the context of the book 1984.
to imagine that the founders of google were taken under the wing by Steve Jobs himself. Imagine what they could still be doing if they had continued to work together, rather than split up over these patents.
It would be so much better if they took up each others challenge, and released great products and services, rather than try to get money off of each others latest creations.
It would be so much better if they took up each others challenge, and released great products and services, rather than try to get money off of each others latest creations.
Going by this analogy, none of the OS (including Mac OSX) would have had a UI (mouse pointer based). Clearly all of them were "inspired" by Xerox.
Really? So do please tell me exactly what patents a 7" tablet breaches then? Apple has no patents on the internals of it's devices, it doesn't make them to begin with, iOS looks nothing like Androids latest tablet OS, in fact we should remember Apple has had to resort to hiring one man who has made a rip off version of Androids notification system for jail breaked iPhones, just to give people what they want, real innovation there..
And as for looks, it's a 7" tablet, it is physically smaller, it cannot possibly be confused with an iPad! Unless you are going to state Apple holds a patent on square objects? :roll eyes:
And another point on Apples innovation, it has taken them several years to catch up hardware wise with other smartphones, in some respects it still hasn't, Nokia for instance has far better cameras, when the first iPhone was launched it had one of the worst cameras on the market, it lacked 3G, it's bluetooth was a joke and it still lacks some stack support.
If I remember correctly, Apple might have enough pocket money to take over someone like RIM. I mean, they only have to take 25% + 1 share and can block every major decision - e.g. attacking
BTW: That is not far-fetched: Microsoft owns a big chunk of Apple (that is why
Companies suing each other is just part of business,....
Like going to the Sushi bar for informal lunch meetings or drinking bottles of scotch/whiskey with your rivals.
So Microsoft (Xbox) is Big Brother.
Nintendo (Wii) is Big Brother.
Amazon (Kindle) is Big Brother.
Etc.
Good grief, you people have no clue what the concept of Big Brother is all about. If there's any corporate entity with Big Brother potential, it's Google. Open your eyes. And, you know, maybe read the book?
You'd think all these companies would eventually realize how much money they're throwing away on lawyers filing these ridiculous suits against each other (and really, is there a clear winner here? Everyone is suing everyone else practically!) and just stop this nonsense.
You should know that innovation leads to litigation. Furthermore, for you education, one of the biggest patent battles of the twentith century was between an auto manufacturer and what many on this board would call a patent troll. The troll in this case was an engineer that invented interruptable windshield wiper action. It was completely ripped off by the auto industry who figured that they were too big to sue. It took decades but eventually the engineer did win.
If you want innovation ten the patent system is the way it can be encouraged. The engineer didn't need to go into the car manufacturing business to have a legit claim to his invention, but he did need to litigate to force big industry to pay him for his work.
If I remember correctly, Apple might have enough pocket money to take over someone like RIM. I mean, they only have to take 25% + 1 share and can block every major decision - e.g. attacking
The first part of the above quote is rediculous. In addition, it's likely illegal as well.
As for Apple's suit against Samsung: Apple is suing the part of Samsung that builds consumer equipment. They buy their components from a wholly different division. It's akin to suing the tobacco company for lung cancer, that owns Kraft cheese and still buying Kraft cheese. RJR and Kraft are two different divisions.
If I felt like listening to a group Monday Morning Quarterbacks gassing on and on about something they barely have knowledge on, I'd first go get a lobotomy. Many people on this board expect a much better grasp of the subject matter than what you find bearable.
Unless you want to find yourself on the wrong side of many board member's
"ignore" button you should consider what that might feel like.
Good thing you don't like Google then because they track everything you do so they can sell your info to their advertisers.
Oh wait. You do like Google. Whoops.
And it's really clear Xerox had no idea what they had, their GUI's are still horrendous.
Well, Apple is trying to force others out of the market by patent-trolling, so that consumers cannot buy a 7" tablet which looks less like an iPad, than the iPad looks like Samsung's own 5 year old LCD photo frame....
Obviously not exactly Big Brother, but definitely a Big Bully. Apple has been pushing the envelope in obtaining all sorts of patents which would never have been allowed a few years ago, then threatening competitors with expensive lawsuits if the use stuff like a black bezel or elastic scroll.
Smaller companies trying to compete simply cannot afford to fight, even if they stand on firm ground legally.
The end result is that competition is stifled and consumers are deprived of legitimate product choices.
Apple does a lot of good things, but this is not one of them.
