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HTC Files Complaint Against Apple for Patent Infringement
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I'm personally not too happy about Apple's (perceived) behavior here, but given that Microsoft and HTC just came to an agreement not too long ago about patent licensing for HTC's Android phones, I really can't help to think that Apple has probably been working with HTC behind the scenes to get them to come clean regarding their patents. Or perhaps Apple isn't willing to license the patents at all -- it's their right under our current system -- and has decided that it's had enough with the blatant stealing of their IP.
The thing is, HTC is going to look like the David to Apple's Goliath in this case, but it's not really as clear cut as that. HTC knew that they were likely violating some of Apple's patents in their efforts to catch up to the iPhone. Either they ignored it, or they approached Apple and Apple said no -- so they still ignored it. Either way, they don't come off looking innovative -- they come off looking like a cheap clone maker. Given that, it's not surprising at all that Apple would sue.
One more thing -- Apple's original complaint was for 20 patents. HTC responds back with 5 patents? Is that all their lawyer's could come up with?
Did HTC just bring a knife to a gun fight?
The thing is, HTC is going to look like the David to Apple's Goliath in this case, but it's not really as clear cut as that. HTC knew that they were likely violating some of Apple's patents in their efforts to catch up to the iPhone. Either they ignored it, or they approached Apple and Apple said no -- so they still ignored it. Either way, they don't come off looking innovative -- they come off looking like a cheap clone maker. Given that, it's not surprising at all that Apple would sue.
One more thing -- Apple's original complaint was for 20 patents. HTC responds back with 5 patents? Is that all their lawyer's could come up with?
Did HTC just bring a knife to a gun fight?
I really hope all this crap with HTC, Google, Nokia and others doesn't distract from Apple's R&D and software development for new and existing products.
Though I think there's less than a snowball's chance in hell that HTC's motion to ban the sale of Apple's product(s) will succeed.
Though I think there's less than a snowball's chance in hell that HTC's motion to ban the sale of Apple's product(s) will succeed.
Palm had too many patents in the wings that they could have thrown back at them to force a cross-licensing agreement in court. In this case, Apple thinks that they can do something more than that, hence they pursue the case. Hopefully the court sees reason and they just end up licensing each others' patents.
All this "i sue you.. I sue you back.. I sue you back again... .." coming from a country where people sue huge technology companies because they didn't put
"Do not put your pets/babies in the microwave oven to dry their hair!"
in the user manual.. and actually win the case.
Let the lawyers solve it,.. and the politicians,.. and the bankers.
Succes guaranteed... for the lawyers, the politicians and the bankers.
Poor companies, poor employees and poor consumers who need to pay up for these guys.
Competition is good but sometimes it runs out of control..
"Do not put your pets/babies in the microwave oven to dry their hair!"
in the user manual.. and actually win the case.
Let the lawyers solve it,.. and the politicians,.. and the bankers.
Succes guaranteed... for the lawyers, the politicians and the bankers.
Poor companies, poor employees and poor consumers who need to pay up for these guys.
Competition is good but sometimes it runs out of control..
What is your evidence? My evidence is that under our current patent regimen innovation is proceeding at an astounding pace. Patents provide incentive for companies to do big money research that they cannot recoup without a temporary monopoly. Patent law is a rich body of law that generally produces the "correct" result. What, exactly is your complaint, and what evidence supports it?
until I know what patents are being infringed and how, Im gonna say this is a bunch of money greedy dicks being dicks and holding back any serious progression in the smartphone industry from us end users... they need to just get over this and work on making their phones better, not suing people over patents they probably are not even implementing into their phones... (apple has thousands of unused patents and im sure other companies do as well)...
this is just stupid and only hurts the consumer so I do not support any of it... I hope they all end up losing tons of money over it and nothing ends up getting resolved.
this is just stupid and only hurts the consumer so I do not support any of it... I hope they all end up losing tons of money over it and nothing ends up getting resolved.
Well stated. In fact they have brought a Sling Shot loaded with Tic-Tacs.
If people don't like Apple's behavior, shut up, and purchase from "all the other open choices you have." The openness of Android will eventually be it's down fall, as the humane race simply is another 1,000 years from being able to use this in a responsible way.
Control the Hardware and the Software. The end users experience will speak for itself in the end.
Google is the real problem these days. If you don't see it you are blind.
its all just a move to slow down apples lawyers for a few weeks... thats all... but as I stated above this is just silly... the saddest part, its the new game the tech companies are playing and its not going to end anytime soon.
Well stated. In fact they have brought a Sling Shot loaded with Tic-Tacs.
If people don't like Apple's behavior, shut up, and purchase from "all the other open choices you have." The openness of Android will eventually be it's down fall, as the humane race simply is another 1,000 years from being able to use this in a responsible way.
Control the Hardware and the Software. The end users experience will speak for itself in the end.
Google is the real problem these days. If you don't see it you are blind.
so your saying palm is okay then?
Apple's claims against HTC were pretty ridiculous, so my guess are HTC's claims toward Apple are equally ridiculous. Hopefully the courts throw both of these cases out quickly and both companies are forced to compete. HTC isn't going to kill Apple, and Apple isn't going to kill HTC/Android. Both are here to stay, and both will enjoy lots of success and lots of market share. They might as well get used to playing in the same park now because neither are going anywhere.
Well, I'm no patent lawyer (I'm no lawyer at all), but there's a chance HTC can sue Apple for more damages regarding those 5 patents than Apple can sue HTC with their 20. I don't think all patents are "on the same footing".
The HTC video looks very good. It's a shame their phone cases look like little Dells/Japanese dumbphones from the 90's, and their OSs look like a Windows clone for the most part.
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Patent damages are usually calculated based on a "reasonable royalty." In other words, in a hypothetical negotiation, how much would the infringer be willing to pay to use the invention. This takes into things such as the cost of a workaround (if I can easily avoid infringement, I wouldn't pay much for the right to practice the patent), the importance of the feature (if I omit the feature, will I still be able to sell the phone? Would it be less desirable to consumers?), and other factors.
Hmm, good idea.
Let me go to the patent office and patent it. Then I can sue you all and dominate the world.
Thanks for the clarification. Much more complex than a "one for one" deal, kind of expected it. Guess all those factors give a LOT of room for negotiation in the event of a cross-licensing deal.
Everyone should just get along. I'm getting less and less happy with Apple as they try to start fights
Here's an idea for HTC, Nokia and Apple:
Start assembling your phones in the USA, and no one will be able to ask for an injunction against importing them.
Start assembling your phones in the USA, and no one will be able to ask for an injunction against importing them.
Here we go again with the foolishness
Here we go again with another lawsuit.....
1. time for more lawyers to make money.
2. time for higher fees on goods to pay for the lawyers (do you really think the company is going to lose money? - nope it will be passed on to the consumer by raising prices on products to protect the companies' operating costs).
3. If the judges do issue temporary cease and dissist while investigations are going on, the consumer loses as they may not get the money back for a product they do not have (technically if it is tied up in litigation - the company can hold off on any refunds as the money is tied up in litigation and only when it is done and the case is closed does the company have to deliver a good or a refund; it can drag out for years).
4. I seen some companies actually stop supporting already sold products that are tied up in litigation. Why, cause they can't get the parts or replacements if all imports, manufacture, or sales are halted.
So in all this foolishness, the consumer loses in their wallets, and the company just moves on to another product. I agree that people should not be ripping off other people's intellectual property - however our marketing allows for like products (Coke, Pepsi, RC). So I think it is foolish for a company to sue years later, and if something is becoming common to all products (ie in smart phones - touch technology, websurfing, emails, add on applications, etc) - then the lawsuit is frivolous.
Here we go again with another lawsuit.....
1. time for more lawyers to make money.
2. time for higher fees on goods to pay for the lawyers (do you really think the company is going to lose money? - nope it will be passed on to the consumer by raising prices on products to protect the companies' operating costs).
3. If the judges do issue temporary cease and dissist while investigations are going on, the consumer loses as they may not get the money back for a product they do not have (technically if it is tied up in litigation - the company can hold off on any refunds as the money is tied up in litigation and only when it is done and the case is closed does the company have to deliver a good or a refund; it can drag out for years).
4. I seen some companies actually stop supporting already sold products that are tied up in litigation. Why, cause they can't get the parts or replacements if all imports, manufacture, or sales are halted.
So in all this foolishness, the consumer loses in their wallets, and the company just moves on to another product. I agree that people should not be ripping off other people's intellectual property - however our marketing allows for like products (Coke, Pepsi, RC). So I think it is foolish for a company to sue years later, and if something is becoming common to all products (ie in smart phones - touch technology, websurfing, emails, add on applications, etc) - then the lawsuit is frivolous.
you seem to be under the impression that Apple's iPhone was the first of it's kind. it wasn't. look up HTC in wikipedia, you'll be surprised with how much innovation they've created long before the iPhone was released.