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We desperately need copyright and patent reform in the US, but unfortunately Congress has a record of turning reform into a patronage cash cow that reforms nothing. It might be better to keep mum.

No we don't. The system works fine. The problem is that in the computer - related industries, infringement is common.
 
Is there a legal website where the actual claims and counter claims are being discussed in a comprehensive and granular way as regards the various suits and the likely outcomes?

That make take a week to read, but it would allow a synthesis of a likely endpoint outcome, which I predict being no items removed from market, and ordered license fees among the various claimants, that while numerically substantial, a small fraction of anybody's gross sales or net incomes.

Rocketman
 
Is there any case of something like this actually ever leading to a 'big' product's production and sale halted??

Or is it always sorted internally and nothing much comes of it?
 
Is there a legal website where the actual claims and counter claims are being discussed in a comprehensive and granular way as regards the various suits and the likely outcomes?

That make take a week to read, but it would allow a synthesis of a likely endpoint outcome, which I predict being no items removed from market, and ordered license fees among the various claimants, that while numerically substantial, a small fraction of anybody's gross sales or net incomes.

Rocketman

A settlement.

Just saved you a week.
 
I'm sick of hearing about Apple being sued... its a huge corporation.. .they get sued... all the time. Its not very interesting.

Agreed. And Apple has a ton of cash in the bank. Maybe that is why Palm hasn't been sued. They couldn't afford the royalities.

But I think it is different for Apple v HTC. Apple is protecting technology, not looking for royalites, and HTC is simply countersuing.
 
If Apple would have bought Palm, they would have had more IP to leverage against both HTC and Nokia. Oh well guess its too late now.
 
Agreed. And Apple has a ton of cash in the bank. Maybe that is why Palm hasn't been sued. They couldn't afford the royalities.

But I think it is different for Apple v HTC. Apple is protecting technology, not looking for royalites, and HTC is simply countersuing.

Since you're familiar with the case ...... :rolleyes:
 
No we don't. The system works fine.

My mind just blew up.

Forget the stupid computer industry. They've got so much money they can afford to piss it away on petty crap like this. OUTSIDE la-la land, in the rest of the world, our system is either not effective at all, or has the opposite effect it was intended to have, and benefits only attorneys. It's garbage, and no one likes it. I have never ever, in any industry, ever heard anyone regardless of politics or personal interest, make the above statement. Beyond what I just said, I'm speechless.
 
Love Apple but they're stepping all over the place

I think all this is making Apple look bad. Especially when they went after that guy who supposedly found the new iPhone. If they just focus on themselves, on making better products, on good things like the environment and people, they wouldn't really have any competition because nobody would be able to keep up with them.
 
I hope HTC gets thrown under the bus. Then I hope the bus reverses over them several more times. I HATE my HTC Hero. I honestly would rather have a "dumb phone" instead of the Hero... But I'm stuck on a 2 year contract with this nonsense.
 
I hope HTC gets thrown under the bus. Then I hope the bus reverses over them several more times. I HATE my HTC Hero. I honestly would rather have a "dumb phone" instead of the Hero... But I'm stuck on a 2 year contract with this nonsense.

rooted or stock?
 
This seems to pretty much be a standard procedure these days, right? You sue me, and I counter-sue you in order to gain some leverage.

In the end they cross-license all their patent portfolios and the little guys get screwed! :D ...or so say those against the current system.
 
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motohooligan said:
I hope HTC gets thrown under the bus. Then I hope the bus reverses over them several more times. I HATE my HTC Hero. I honestly would rather have a "dumb phone" instead of the Hero... But I'm stuck on a 2 year contract with this nonsense.

1. Sell hated phone.
2. Get dumbphone of your choice that you'd prefer.
3. ???
4. Profit!
 
I wonder which patents they are suing over..I think they are just desperate and wanted to make it all seem ridiculous. I hope Apple wins. Others are using technology that Apple invented and patented. Before iPhone, there were just ****** phones with styluses..and now everyone copies from Apple. Like when Microsoft copies OS X and puts similar features into Windows OS.
 
Agreed. And Apple has a ton of cash in the bank. Maybe that is why Palm hasn't been sued. They couldn't afford the royalities.

But I think it is different for Apple v HTC. Apple is protecting technology, not looking for royalites, and HTC is simply countersuing.

I disagree.

Apple sees the writing on the wall re: Android, and is trying to slow the competition. Many companies have a policy of not using patents offensively. Apple is not one of these.
 
I'd be interested to see the exact patents that HTC is claiming Apple has infringed on. From a high-level view, patent disputes such as these are pointless for the simple fact that there's only so many ways to build a phone. Certain commonalities would inevitably exist even if development was done in a complete vacuum.

That said, Apple was the first one to the table on this one, and every other manufacturer has been playing catchup (PC for "copying") since. I'd be hard-pressed to believe HTC did something truly original that Apple then intentionally and directly copied from an HTC offering.

Wait, you say Apple applied multi-touch in their products before HTC so it's likely that HTC did copy stuff.

However HTC (and Nokia, for that matter) created smart phones before Apple, yet the same logic does not apply?

Smells like fanboyism to me...
 
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