HTC Launches One Max Smartphone, Fingerprint Sensor Garners Negative Reviews

[DJJAZZYJET]

Copying Apple by putting in a feature that was in a phone before Apple put it in the 5S? Amazing!

And which phone were you referring to? And how well is it implemented in comparison to the 5S?

Its all well and good adding a feature, but if its not done right then you shouldn't have bothered. The 5S fingerprint sensor seems pretty solid, and 'just works' with the phone.

 

[Max(IT)]

Yeah but it has a nice big screen.

My Samsung LCD 42" has too .... But I'm not going to make a phone call with that.

 

[ghettochris]

I say again, there's no way HTC got this done since the iPhone announcement. It has obviously been in the works for months, and recent leaks support that fact.

So it's not another "Android copy", it's just a badly implemented finger print scanner lol.

my guess is they designed it to respond to apple rumors of fingerprint sensor, and gave it the final go ahead once apple made their announcement. haha, what a fail.

 

[neoelectronaut]

Yeah, it's so much smarter to buy and carry two devices with you instead of just owning one gadget that can do it all...

What the heck kinda response is this? You can have a gadget that has a lot of features without being gigantic.

 

[CrAkD]

stupid htc. but I hope the next iphone does take cues on the front. it should be minimalist like that. the front of the next iphone should 98% screen.

 

[BJonson]

Yes, but the button to wake the phone IS EXACTLY where the sensor is. Making it effectively a one step process. Press the home button, scanner immediately scans your finger. No swiping, no pressing one button and transitioning to another area to scan the finger. All inclusive one step process to securely unlock your phone.

As with almost every Apple innovation, the devil is in the details and the implementation. Some people erroneously think there's a race to be first to do something. The thing that separates the true innovators from the phonies, is being the first to do something RIGHT in a way that makes so much sense that it seems inevitable. When something makes so much sense that you think "of course, how else would you do it" thats when you have innovated. Not screaming "FIRST" like some message board troll who rushes to make the first comment.

Kind of like they got maps right or the gyroscope or the antenna or the scratching or the paint chipping or the small screen?

 

[M!M!C]

You're arguing semantics. I never said you had to press multiple buttons or make multiple gestures or movements.

Fact is, you have to first PRESS the home button (which wakes the device) so the fingerprint can be read. You can't simply leave the finger on the home button.

Relax.....I'm not attacking Apple. Simply pointing out that part of the argument isn't valid - unless you expound on multiple touches (which I'd say has more to do with where the button is located - which is addressed.)

Although I agree the argument could have been made clearer, from a user experience perspective, the end result still stands valid. The iPhone 5s is perceived to be one fluid motion whereas the HTC is 2.

You win on technicality, but lose on overall perception.

 

[Chrisg2014]

Another crap Android ripoff. I'm surprised Samsung wasn't first to the show.

Um... One Phone Motorola Atrix 4G

 

[jrswizzle]

Although I agree the argument could have been made clearer, from a user experience perspective, the end result still stands valid. The iPhone 5s is perceived to be one fluid motion whereas the HTC is 2.

You win on technicality, but lose on overall perception.

Should I say it?

mmmm......

maybe......

ok I will.

I. KNOW. I completely agree that Apple's is the better implementation, have said such and EXPLAINED such.

 

[JHankwitz]

That's a terrible place to put the sensor.

People that purchase HTC phones dont care if they fingerprint their camera lens. The pictures it takes aren't good enough to tell the difference anyway. Besides, they now can get to see strange things happen by just picking up their phone.

 

[Chrisg2014]

OMG!

Press the button, and continue to rest the finger in 'pressed state' there for like .1 seconds. Not very hard.

Got to wonder with some people.

um... its longer then .1 second more like 1-2 seconds

 

[BJonson]

The bottom line is they could not put it on the button because the one does not have one. Samsung does have a wake button so their implementation will succeed. That said its better to have it than to not have it. You can just ignore it if it Sucks kind of like Apple maps.

 

[D.T.]

The Max is sort of silly big (and it sounds like the fingerprint scanner implementation is a train wreck) but I really like the design on the One series

I'd buy the One [regular] over any other manufacturer's Android offering at the moment (though it needs a pure ROM install, I have yet to like any custom UI/skin).

 

[NoneOfYourB]

There are only three places to put a fingerprint scanner... front, back, sides.

I counted only two places.
The wrong place and the right place.

 

[andy9l]

My Samsung LCD 42" has too .... But I'm not going to make a phone call with that.

Why? It's intuitive. If someone is calling you, and you're watching TV, answering right there and then is much more intuitive than pausing the TV and running for your phone.

I answer and make FaceTime calls on my 27" iMac. Why not a TV?

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um... its longer then .1 second more like 1-2 seconds

It's not. Mine is often unlocking itself as the screen wakes up. It's about 0.5-1 seconds.

 

[Michael Goff]

Surely is a well publicized feature ... And it's working

And if it didn't have it, people would still be buying the iPhone 5S by the truckloads.

And which phone were you referring to? And how well is it implemented in comparison to the 5S?

Its all well and good adding a feature, but if its not done right then you shouldn't have bothered. The 5S fingerprint sensor seems pretty solid, and 'just works' with the phone.

Yes, it is done much better in the 5S. I was not arguing quality. I was arguing that HTC isn't copying Apple as Apple isn't the first to throw in this feature. I just get tired of this idea that "well, Apple did it so anyone doing it afterwards is just copying Apple"

Kind of like a gold phone. Not new, but now if anyone makes one they're "copying Apple".

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The Max is sort of silly big (and it sounds like the fingerprint scanner implementation is a train wreck) but I really like the design on the One series

I'd buy the One [regular] over any other manufacturer's Android offering at the moment (though it needs a pure ROM install, I have yet to like any custom UI/skin).

Like maybe the HTC One Google Play Edition?

 

[Khedron]

5 fingers can be saved. If you lose (or bruise) all 5 fingers you saved to TouchId, you've got much bigger problems than being able to easily get into your iPhone

You also need to bruise your brain so you forget the mandatory PIN backup.

 

[Michael Scrip]

i counted only two places.

The wrong place and the right place.

Haha... true!

 

[o0smoothies0o]

I'm sorry but different fingers for different apps/functions an incredibly stupid/gimmick idea. Who in the hell wants to start putting different fingers on just to get to something they could otherwise get to almost immediately, and not look like a complete fumbling idiot trying to scan in different fingers for different functions. Hilarious is what it is. This is just an example of how poorly designed and implemented technology is so much inferior to the incalculably better design and implementation Apple puts into their products. Apple's values, specifically simplicity make it impossible to beat.

Apple, for the most part does everything so perfectly simple, elegant, and efficient, and it just works. The Touch ID was implemented perfectly, built right into the home button, and a simple press and hold for a half a second unlocks the device (I'm sure it will only get faster in future generations), also it skips the swipe to unlock of course which saves any time it costs holding really.

 

[bbeagle]

HTC beat Samsung this time in copying Apple

So true!

I give it 90 days TOPS where Samsung has a fingerprint sensor. Of course, THEN, the Android fanboys will love fingerprint sensors.

 

[o0smoothies0o]

Kind of like they got maps right or the gyroscope or the antenna or the scratching or the paint chipping or the small screen?

Yeah they got the screen size wrong. HAHAHA Guess your parents got your chromosomes wrong.

 

[Khedron]

5s can only register 5.. not that much better.

Realistically you want to have 2 index fingers and 2 thumbs. Apple can achieve this with one spare. HTC cannot.

Edit: though I suppose the HTC implementation is so inconvenient you can't use a thumb anyway.

 

[Rogifan]

It took not even a week for someone to hack Apple's fingerprint sensor - and that only showed that such sensors are stupid ideas in the first place. As some security developer from the Linux community said: "Fingerprints are usernames, not passwords." And we leave these fingerprints on everything that we touch. So basically Apple introduced a stupid and dangerous feature and others are doing the same.

Regarding the stupid rip-off comments: The One Max was in development and in the rumor mill for several weeks if not months. And they certainly did not copy Apple; if they borrowed ideas from somewhere, then it was from the LG G2 that also has buttons on the back. And Apple sure as hell did not invent fingerprint sensors... With the NSA illegaly stealing data from everywhere, no company should ship such profucts anymore. And nobody should use them.

How was that a hack? Was someone able to access the hash in the secure enclave of the A7? It was a spoof, not a hack. And how often would someone be able to get a clean fingerprint from a stolen device and then create a fake print and use it to access the device all before the user puts their phone in lost mode?

 

[FrankB1191]

Finger print scanner aside, the HTC One has a seriously nice design. I hope that apple will adopt something similar in removing the chin and forehead.

As for the location on the scanner, yeah bad idea.

My HTC One is exactly what I wanted in a slightly larger than iPhone phone. The top and bottom are used for fantastic speakers (much better than my Mini), and HTC uses two capacitive buttons rather than three. It's a clean front face. Apple fans like the home button, but it wastes space in the same way that Samsung's huge home button does. Touch I'D was a great way to keep the iPhone's home button in place, but HTC doesn't do front buttons with the One. If you look at a One and a 5s together, there's a lot of unused real estate in the front of the 5s. Don't expect to see HTC cluttering up the front of a phone/phablet with physical buttons. BTW.... I staunchly defended Apple in the thread about Touch ID taking too many steps to initiate....

Stealing Ideas: Go to YouTube, and type in Steve Jobs and Picasso. Jobs boasts about stealing ideas! Kind of freaky.....

 

[JayCee842]

That was fast (less than a month)

Apple does not always do things first (finger print scanner has been on a mobile phone before) but they seem to be able to do things correctly (or pretty damn close) first.

Other than the fingerprint sensor, the phone looks pretty cool! 6" screen seems a bit too large for a phone.

Yes, and doing it right in a way so that it functions almost perfectly is what matters. Had Samsung or HTC been the first to implement this and got it wrong it would have not mattered at all. Apple knows how to deliver.