Oh yeah? I had an Atrix, and the fingerprint scanner barely worked, fast forward to the 5S implementation (that I recently got to try out myself), and it's almost perfect. It's all in the details.
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HTC Launches One Max Smartphone, Fingerprint Sensor Garners Negative Reviews
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Oh yeah? I had an Atrix, and the fingerprint scanner barely worked, fast forward to the 5S implementation (that I recently got to try out myself), and it's almost perfect. It's all in the details.
As usual. Stupid and illogical design by HTC
Admitted they make some of the nicest looking phone beside Apple. But apart from that, HTC really deserve to die by decisions like this.
They just can't thinking straight. Might as well place the microphone below the earpiece.
That would make a lot of sense
Admitted they make some of the nicest looking phone beside Apple. But apart from that, HTC really deserve to die by decisions like this.
They just can't thinking straight. Might as well place the microphone below the earpiece.
That would make a lot of sense
Yes, very true and can be fixed by software updates and its most likely coming, but i don't think HTC can give a software update to move the sensor in the front !!
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Apple was not the first one, Apple doesn't have the market share, Apple is closed, Apple is overpriced low spec'd, Apple is doomed,
YET, it seems it's only afteriphone 5S the world got introduced the fingerprint sensor. And, even after that too, people are still struggling to copy.
Samsung has better photocopier in their lab than HTC, we should soon see some very great innovation from Samsung, something like never seen before fingerprint sensor!!, that unlocks the phone just by pressing front home button !!
So in your world.... HTC is releasing a phone that they've basically designed over the course of about a month or so. They must have really quick designers at HTC. Also, how did the world -just- get introduced to the fingerprint scanner? The RDF is strong with this one.
I liked the look and feel of the original HTC one, but its about .5 inch to big (that's what she said). The fingerprint scanner is a bit of a fail though, and reeks of rushing to add tech to keep up with Apple, but not thought out beforehand.
Alright.... I'll stop poking fun at poor Steve. In the same interview, Jobs said that he was fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time. I'll quote Isaac Newton: If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
Jobs didn't live or work in a vacuum, and it would be absurd to say his innovations were completely free of any other innovator's influence. Jobs owed a great deal to efforts of countless people. The fact that he had to share his ideas with Samsung's engineering and manufacturing people demonstrates a certain interdependence that we all operate under. Outright stealing the idea for something like intermittent windshield wipers is wrong on several levels, but at some point all cars had them.
*** This was typed on my iPad Mini, because I believe it to be the finest tablet ever made.
You must understand my friend, if Apple hasn't made it, it simply does not exist even if your using it! Apple invented the finger print scanner, it' in the patents, probably....
RDF in full effect for sure.
You must understand my friend, if Apple hasn't made it, it simply does not exist even if your using it! Apple invented the finger print scanner, it' in the patents, probably....
Apple bought Authentec, who already makes scanners... didn't they?
I'm using my phone 1-1.5 hours per day, and spend around 10 minutes per months talking by it. So I don't care how convenient to talk - it's a gimmick for smartphone. If you need to talk a lot - just buy feature phone. Then you could make fun of iPhone too as it a lot bigger than feature phone.
Point is nobody would interested enough to put it on a phone had the 5s did not put it.
As much as I hate to admit it, but if it ain't on the iPhone, it tends to fail miserably. That's the painful fact here
Yes and it didn't work half the time. Fingerprint sensors are nothing new and it doesn't take an entire team to figure out that they would fit well on a phone.
Who will be remembered for a fingerprint sensor on a phone? Apple. And that's solely because they were the first to successful implement them.
It will probably fail on the HTC One Max, but just because ... it's a niche phone. I also don't think HTC put this on here because it succeeded on the 5S.
"Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal"
What would be the difference between copying and stealing an idea? If you can ever anwser this question, you will understand what this quote means.
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Wow pressing the the home button is really tough.
And I'm quoting this because it's a stupid post
Authentec had been making fingerprint sensors for notebook computers since the last decade before the takeover by Apple and has very vast experience is producing good scanners, actually it may be the single best one in the market. And Apple saw the potential of fingerprint sensors and bought the best company. Therefore it will be a long time before other manufacturers can beat the Touch ID.
As for someone who argued that Touch ID is still "two steps" since we have to press the home button and rest the finger on it, I would like to add:
No! There are 5 steps! You need to have your mind ready to move your finger, your brain has to transmit a neural signal to the muscle responsible for moving your finger, then your eyes has to track the movement of your finger so that your finger is on the right spot, then muscle has to contract, then after the button is pressed, your brain has to refrain from passing another signal to remove the finger and let it rest on the button. And boom! Your phone is unlocked. It's no way 1 step right? Cheers!
As for someone who argued that Touch ID is still "two steps" since we have to press the home button and rest the finger on it, I would like to add:
No! There are 5 steps! You need to have your mind ready to move your finger, your brain has to transmit a neural signal to the muscle responsible for moving your finger, then your eyes has to track the movement of your finger so that your finger is on the right spot, then muscle has to contract, then after the button is pressed, your brain has to refrain from passing another signal to remove the finger and let it rest on the button. And boom! Your phone is unlocked. It's no way 1 step right? Cheers!
No it's not niche if HTC can do it properly. For example they can put it behind sleep/wake button. That would make it far superior (and sensible too). Wake the phone while ID'ing my finger in the process. Wow! I should get paid for this idea
Remember Galaxy Gear? It's a shoddy $200 smartwatch just because Samsung get panicked with iWatch rumors.
It's so obvious htc also wants to piggyback fingerprint sensor "success" on iPhone. It was supposed to be "hey I also have fingerprint sensor on my smartphone" .. Too bad the design is so bad. And because of that I really hope One Max being a flop it deserves.
As a point of clarification, the tech used in the Atrix was a swipe-based sensor. The one in the 5s is a 2d (stationary print) sensor.
If they don't add "much as we hate to say it" they would have been beaten to death by being labelled as an Apple fanboy. So you must hate Apple so that you're not a fanboy. You can't be neutral.
I think this will be a better way to put it:
"You know, Apple sucks. But they have done this feature quite well! Mind you, it's this feature only. The rest of the company is still rotten."
See? I'm safe now.
Wake the phone with the home button and it scans your finger at the same time = One motion. You're unlocking it wrong
.BTW, a disclaimer in all caps commanding someone not to do something will prompt them to do just that, hence this post.
Authentec had been making fingerprint sensors for notebook computers since the last decade before the takeover by Apple and has very vast experience is producing good scanners, actually it may be the single best one in the market. And Apple saw the potential of fingerprint sensors and bought the best company. Therefore it will be a long time before other manufacturers can beat the Touch ID.
As for someone who argued that Touch ID is still "two steps" since we have to press the home button and rest the finger on it, I would like to add:
No! There are 5 steps! You need to have your mind ready to move your finger, your brain has to transmit a neural signal to the muscle responsible for moving your finger, then your eyes has to track the movement of your finger so that your finger is on the right spot, then muscle has to contract, then after the button is pressed, your brain has to refrain from passing another signal to remove the finger and let it rest on the button. And boom! Your phone is unlocked. It's no way 1 step right? Cheers!
Supposedly there are a couple other players in the market that are close to a similarly reliable, 2D sensor. That being said, Apple will likely have a strong advantage in this area for the next year or two. Plus Apple can stick this technology is literally every product they put out without concern of costly/profit slicing licensing fees.
Yes it did. It tends to just buy small companies these days to get it's innovations.
You mean apart from the Motorola phone posted above? Which had a finger print scanner before the iPhone 5S.
-competitor launches fingerprint sensor
-gets negative reviews despite having more uses than iPhone 5S's TouchID
LOL
-gets negative reviews despite having more uses than iPhone 5S's TouchID
LOL
I am aware of that. But the $1million question would be "Did it work well enough to be huge success?"
While Touch ID all of a sudden become "me, too" feature everybody wants. Why?