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I know it's too late now... but Blackberry missed a huge opportunity to implement a fingerprint scanner:

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Authentec had been making fingerprint sensors for notebook computers since the last decade before the takeover by Apple and has very vast experience is producing good scanners, actually it may be the single best one in the market. And Apple saw the potential of fingerprint sensors and bought the best company. Therefore it will be a long time before other manufacturers can beat the Touch ID.

As for someone who argued that Touch ID is still "two steps" since we have to press the home button and rest the finger on it, I would like to add:

No! There are 5 steps! You need to have your mind ready to move your finger, your brain has to transmit a neural signal to the muscle responsible for moving your finger, then your eyes has to track the movement of your finger so that your finger is on the right spot, then muscle has to contract, then after the button is pressed, your brain has to refrain from passing another signal to remove the finger and let it rest on the button. And boom! Your phone is unlocked. It's no way 1 step right? Cheers! :D

Wrong. It's SIX steps. Step one is your brain saying " I gotta unlock my phone" unlock the iPhone. Step two is your first step! lol
 
I am aware of that. But the $1million question would be "Did it work well enough to be huge success?"

While Touch ID all of a sudden become "me, too" feature everybody wants. Why?

Why are you saying it has become a 'Me Too' feature just because it's on the iPhone? It's as though no one thought of doing it because Motorola did it.

I think you'll find most models of phone won't bother with the tech. Just the odd one or two.
 
Why are you saying it has become a 'Me Too' feature just because it's on the iPhone? It's as though no one thought of doing it because Motorola did it.

I think you'll find most models of phone won't bother with the tech. Just the odd one or two.

Yes because everyone is busy making curved phones.
 
This had to be in the works before the iphone was released or atleast rumored with a scanner. no way they could have developed and shipped this in a few months or so (whenever the iphone rumors started).
 
Clearly apple copied the Motorola atrix. The sensor makes more sense on the back as police detectives can use it to scan the crime scene for fingerprints. Useless on the front.
 
Which I guess if Apple made one would automatically mean everyone else copied them.

Fingerprint sensors has been around for decades. It's no point to argue who's first. But it matters about who is the best.
 
Why are you saying it has become a 'Me Too' feature just because it's on the iPhone? It's as though no one thought of doing it because Motorola did it.

I think you'll find most models of phone won't bother with the tech. Just the odd one or two.

Nope. I never claimed Apple did it first. In fact Apple hardly done anything first.

Bitter fact is things are become more popular after Apple did it. Lots of them are.

  • Retina Display .. yeah it wasn't popular until iPhone 4 did it. Now everybody follow suit and race to put anything larger than "326 ppi" number on their display.
  • Smartwatch. Just because it's rumored Apple wants to do it, Samsung gets burned and do it in months. Look at the Gear. $200 POS watch I'd rather spend it on a Tag Heuer instead.
  • 64bit ARM, as gimmicky as it may sounds is all of so sudden become a hot topic. Samsung is one of the crawlers. Just because 64 is bigger than 32 then it looks good on paper.
  • Touch ID, yes Moto did it first on the phone. But no one cared until 5S happened, no?
    It's a frenzy hot topic right now. So HTC is doing it but in totally wrong way. That deserves a laugh at best.
 
HTC makes a pretty good phone in its One line, and I think it's a better build than the S4. It's just so pathetic to see to see the design of this rush to fingerprint-sensor; can't this company be the One competitor to Apple that at least makes a product with a good build and careful design? I guess with no other place to put the sensor on the front of the current One, there is no other option but to put it on the back.

Please, HTC...be patient and keep design in mind.
 
For the same reason Motorola never did it again: It was a crap gimmick that nobody really cared about. The Motorola phone was a commercial failure as the fingerprint scanner was pretty much its only feature.

Maybe Apple can 'do it right' this time though.

They DID do it right... hence the copycats...
 
I have the HTC One and I think the Max is silly in my opinion. Its too big and the finger print reader wasn't thought out very well. I think HTC should of focused on a making more of a successor to the HTC One with a 5" screen, Snapdragon 800 processor, 3GB of memory and a larger battery around 3000mah.
 
So would you need a cover with a hole in the back?

2 holes. One for the camera and another for the fingerprint sensor. Also, this sensor requires a swipe to scan the fingerprint, so the case will block the swiping action too and the hole must be much bigger. So they'd better make a big hole at the back for the whole camera + fingerprint sensor area.

Actually the idea to put some button or scanner just below the camera is also not an original idea from HTC. The LG G2 has the same problem which places the volume buttons right below the camera module.
 
Apple does not make everything first, but Apple bring almost everything to a whole new level and set a new standard.
 
Ok, lets be fair.

As soon as Apple had their Finger Print Scanner announced/released people were all over it and some saying "see it's not a secure as they made it out to me! You only have to do ALL of this, stuff the average person won't have with them."

So I expect the same thing with HTC. Guess what? I doubt you will see or hear of a main article since it's not Apple
 
2 holes. One for the camera and another for the fingerprint sensor. Also, this sensor requires a swipe to scan the fingerprint, so the case will block the swiping action too and the hole must be much bigger. So they'd better make a big hole at the back for the whole camera + fingerprint sensor area.

Actually the idea to put some button or scanner just below the camera is also not an original idea from HTC. The LG G2 has the same problem which places the volume buttons right below the camera module.

No big deal, really. A lot of iphone cases also leave a huge hole at the back to show the Apple logo. :p

Still, if you want an example of what a HTC Max case might look like, there is the official case + battery.

http://phandroid.com/2013/10/14/htc-one-max-power-flip-case/
 
Yes, very true and can be fixed by software updates and its most likely coming, but i don't think HTC can give a software update to move the sensor in the front !!

agreed! I really liked HTC stuff from 3-5 years ago but the latest stuff smacks of desperate plagiarism, sadly. As consumers it is in all our interests that these companies succeed, driving each other forward to be better, and cheaper so we get more bang for our buck.

Putting the sensor by the camera, great for lens cleaning cloth companies but rubbish for the user who gets frustrated by having a permanently finger print covered lens. <face palm>
 
No big deal, really. A lot of iphone cases also leave a huge hole at the back to show the Apple logo. :p

Still, if you want an example of what a HTC Max case might look like, there is the official case + battery.

http://phandroid.com/2013/10/14/htc-one-max-power-flip-case/

Not convinced that cut outs big enough to allow a large clean surface area for a swipe as when you near the edge your finger will raise off it. The biggest issue being the need for clean vertical swipe or not recognised.

What makes me laugh is if this was an Apple product there would be uproar at how bad it is. The fact they never redesigned the phone always gets thrown at Apple but droids will lap this up. Its far too big to be used comfortably but droides do have bad eyesight, the canera is crap, the batteries nothing innovative and the finger print scanners a joke.

If this was Apple it would be an outrage but as its HTC people kind of accept it and thats funny. Though though the droids will still say its the bestthing ever as we know all they care about is big screens and lots of features theyll never use.
 
What I would like to see is a hands on test showing just how intuitive it is to use the fingerprint scanner in normal, everyday usage. None of that " if you don't like it, don't use it" crap.

The ability to launch separate apps using different fingers sounds interesting, but I think that if you have to stop to think which finger you need to use to unlock your phone, you have already failed right there and then.

Still, I welcome more companies including fingerprint scanners in the phones, so we can compare notes with regards to apple's implementation, and provide more reference points as to how we can drive this technology onwards.
 
There's no way HTC got this done in 3 weeks, they obviously had it planned well before Apple announced their finger print scanner.

Of course not, the rumor of a fingerprint scanner of iPhone 5S have been around for almost a year! It's not that HTC have copied! If anything, it's trying to be a "me too" company.

I have an iPhone 5 and would not change it for any other phone because of so many reasons but HTC one is gorgeous looking phone. That fingerprint implementation not so attractive though!!
 
I was under the same impression. But from my experience this does not seem to be the case.

Ok. So I rest my finger for half a second and then press the Button.
-> Phone unlocks instantly.
I'm now first pressing the button and resting my finger on it.
-> Takes half a second longer to unlock.

I've not implemented this but i'm pretty sure it starts reading prior to pressing the home button.

Well, I have implemented this on my 5S, and you're wrong. You do have to first press the button and then leave your finger on the scanner for a fraction of a second (about 1/4 to 1/2 S). Sometimes you can just press the button and leave it pressed for 1/2 second or so but you run the risk of leaving it pressed for too long and you'll activate Siri. It doesn't take long to learn to click the button and then take your time in removing your finger. Works every time.
 
agreed! I really liked HTC stuff from 3-5 years ago but the latest stuff smacks of desperate plagiarism, sadly. As consumers it is in all our interests that these companies succeed, driving each other forward to be better, and cheaper so we get more bang for our buck.

Putting the sensor by the camera, great for lens cleaning cloth companies but rubbish for the user who gets frustrated by having a permanently finger print covered lens. <face palm>


The LG G2 also places some buttons right below the camera lens. When I first saw the commercial I'm thinking of all the smudges on the camera lens. But this issue is not as widely reported as the HTC One Max, maybe because "fingerprint sensor" seems to have some connection with Apple news and therefore it's reported everywhere.
 
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