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What coffee? Android tablets all fundamentally suck, because Google doesn't care about them. There's little app support. The hardware can be the best, but if there's only poor/scattered software support, it's not going to do well.



AFAIK there's a little. Back when I worked for BMW, we had our share of quarrels with China, and IIRC our solution was to essentially licence out rights to build to clone factories.
hardware the best on android tablets, pulease! Android tablets are years behind iPads and falling further. And just so I can say this, have you seen that stupid commercial from Microsoft trying to say the Surface pro 7 was better than an iPad Pro because kickstand, and it clicks when you snap on the keyboard. So an i5 processor running windows with only 8GB (seriously, pretty dismal). the only thing the iPad Pro and the Surface pro had in common was the screen size, on every other measure, the iPad Pro smokes it. why didn't they compare it to an iPad Air? There the Air is only 10-20% faster (and a lot cheaper). Oh, I guess that is why. Kid has a nice gig though
 
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Borrowing usually means you plan to return it. I've visited China a few times, and if you've ever walked into an Huawei store or a Xiaomi store, they sure do borrow a lot. The MatePad Pro series of notebooks are just blatant rip offs of Apple Hardware, and the Xiaomi OS (Not sure what it's called) makes their Android Theme look identical to iOS down to the icons.

However what is Apple's recourse in this?
 
Looking identical to Apple is very intentional for Huawei. Their target market is those who want Apple without paying Apple prices. They don’t care about the sniggering or finger wags for being a copy cat. They don’t care if people think that they don’t have an original idea.

Their goal is to make money by imitating the best as much as physically and legally possible.
 
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I suppose one innovation in all this is bringing OLED to tablets instead of Mini LEDs 😂
 
Looking identical to Apple is very intentional for Huawei. Their target market is those who want Apple without paying Apple prices. They don’t care about the sniggering or finger wags for being a copy cat. They don’t care if people think that they don’t have an original idea.

Their goal is to make money by imitating the best as much as physically and legally possible.

Yep. Remember when their CEO got arrested at a Canadian airport a few years ago and she was traveling with an iPhone, iPad, and MacBook? They know exactly what they are doing.
 
you make excellent points, it's just the humor of it to not even pretend to make it look different. I wouldn't count them out. china had the world's largest economy for centuries. The Kirin processor has a lot of potential, and if they are incentivized to make it competitive-it will be.

Just a point of reference to really bad US policy, when they came up with "punishments" on trade for China, all that accomplished was to energize the world's largest country to get more competitive. so get ready for it, china will be surpassing us in technology in a few years.
Very unlikely. The whole society is based on a hierarchy system that frowns on individual thinking and creativity that innovation and new product development require.
 
Has anybody checked Huawei or Xiaomi's websites?

They straight out copied Apple's product page designs lol
 
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Makes Samsung look like they need help with their copying

Samsung's next tablet S8 Ultra is going to be 14.6 inches with bezels so thin there'll be a camera notch. Even at 16:10 aspect it dwarfs the largest iPad. That doesn't sound like a copy & if Apple makes an iPad bigger than 12.9" well.. they weren't first so... 💁‍♂️
 
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Huawei does put the effort into making solid hardware - but it's wasted if I have zero trust in the OS.
I've brought Huawei phones in the past (the Honor series) and everyone one of them, I've installed a custom ROM. No more funky UI, faster to boot.:cool: When the geniuses at XDA cooks up a custom ROM for one of these, I'll be on them like white on rice.
 
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Makes Samsung look like they need help with their copying

- You iPhone screen is probably made by Samsung
- Your iPhone DRAM is made by Samsung or Micron
- Your iPhone Flash-memory is made by Samsung
- The tech in your iPhone A-chip is possible because of TSMC and ASML
- The modem in your iPhone is made by Qualcomm

Lots of Samsung tech in your iPhone, but not the other way around ;)
 
They both borrowed from 2012 Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. Have outgrown tablets with mobile OS', though, so more into Surface now. Have Surface Pro X SQ2 and adding Surface Pro 7+.

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Totally off topic:

Today I went to my local convenience store (in Shanghai) for a delicious Korean milk soda. On the left is the real one, on the right is the fake one.

I mean the attention to detail to copy every single thing is quite admirable.

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Anyway, I wish them well. It’s about time we had some competition in the iPad market (I refuse to use the term “tablet” - that form factor was invented by and is owned by the iPad). If Apple don’t release a significant improvement to iPadOS at WWDC then perhaps this competition will help encourage them to do so next year.
 
Will be buying 4 matpad pro’s for all my family.
Competition is good and hopefully Apple will now wake up and smell the great tasty coffee ☕️
Without the iPad to copy I doubt matpad would exist. If you want to stifle innovation then copies are the way to do it.
 
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They didn’t even bother with that dock design 😅 and harmonyOS is probably just a reverse engineered android
It's not even reverse-engineered, it's currently an Android fork.


HarmonyOS 2.0 was similarly found to be forked from Android 10, with Ars Technica finding that the smartphone beta version was merely a rebranded version of EMUI 11 with all references to Android replaced by "HarmonyOS", and the "DevEco Studio" SDK being largely based on the same core IntelliJ IDEA components as the Android Studio software.
 
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