Huawei Borrows Heavily From iPad Pro With New 'MatePad Pro,' 'Harmony OS,' and 'M-Pencil'

[TiggrToo]

Providing irrelevant search results still doesn't show you know the difference between Wacom precision pen used in the 2012 Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet, Galaxy Note II phablet, etc. vs dumb imprecise stylus of Palm, Compaq iPaq and Windows Mobile devices. I've owned and used all those devices.

Irrelevant? These are Samsung and Wacom using the term Stylus.

And they’re not search results: they’re pages from the manufacturers themselves.

You seem to be tilting at windows here, pal. You got a problem with using the word Stylus then take it up with them, not me. I fear you’ll be Sool though.

 

[mi7chy]

Irrelevant? These are Samsung and Wacom using the term Stylus.

And they’re not search results: they’re pages from the manufacturers themselves.

You seem to be tilting at windows here, pal. You got a problem with using the word Stylus then take it up with them, not me. I fear you’ll be Sool though.

So, you're admitting you don't know the technology behind Wacom vs dumb stylus. If we were having a discussion of different technology between EV and combustion engine cars you would say there's no difference in technology since they're both 'cars'. Uh huh.

 

[falainber]

Apple released the Newton in 1993 with a stylus…

Yes they did. At the time all similar devices used resistive screens and had to use stylus. Then Apple abandoned it in iPhone and iPad when device vendors switched to capacitive screens (mutitouch UI). Steve Jobs said this: "Who wants a stylus. You have to get em and put em away, and you lose em. Yuck. Nobody wants a stylus." Samsung was the first company that relized the value of pen support on multitouch devices first. Apple copied them later. To this day, Apple does not support pen on iPhone. That might be the next feature Apple is going to copy from Samsung (Galaxy Note phone).

 

[falainber]

Here's what Samsung borrowed from Wacom:

https://www.wacom.com/en-us/about-wacom/news-and-events/2013/ap%201027

That's like saying that Apple borrowed multitouch interface from Corning because they used their glass. Samsung used Wacom's pen tech. This tech was developed for non-screen tablets. Using pen on the tablets with capacitive screens was Samsung's idea later borrowed by Apple. Which chips/tech is used by both companies to implement this feature is a different issue.

 

[TiggrToo]

So, you're admitting you don't know the technology behind Wacom vs dumb stylus. If we were having a discussion of different technology between EV and combustion engine cars you would say there's no difference in technology since they're both 'cars'. Uh huh.

Quit putting words into my mouth.

Why are you so hyper focused on this? It’s really quite laughable seeing you dig into this like a starving dog who’s just got given a meatless bone.

And please do not treat me like an idiot. I’ve been using a stylus since my Palm III days and have used various different sorts of stylus/pen/pointer/whatever since then.

Like I say, if Wacom are happy to call their device a Stylus then you attacking me for doing the same is just laughable.

You got an issue with that then take it elsewhere, because at this point your attacks have devolved into silliness.

And your metaphor fails badly because we’re having a discussion on cars (tablets). Not my fault you’re fixated on a bloody stylus.

 

[Marshall73]

Yes they did. At the time all similar devices used resistive screens and had to use stylus. Then Apple abandoned it in iPhone and iPad when device vendors switched to capacitive screens (mutitouch UI). Steve Jobs said this: "Who wants a stylus. You have to get em and put em away, and you lose em. Yuck. Nobody wants a stylus." Samsung was the first company that relized the value of pen support on multitouch devices first. Apple copied them later. To this day, Apple does not support pen on iPhone. That might be the next feature Apple is going to copy from Samsung (Galaxy Note phone).

sure they copied them by adding back stylus support that they already used previously… Jobs was right, the best stylus IS your finger as demonstrated by the entire mobile phone market changing to capacitive touch after the iPhone launch. Pen support is complimentary for certain tasks and allowed Apple to bring back Scribble support, from the newton.

 

[quarkysg]

I’d argue that they didn’t “borrow” pen support from Samsung as Microsoft had stylus support way before Samsung. Heck, for that matter I used several Palm devices back in the day with stylus’s. Then there were the Compaq devices and even Windows Mobile.

Actually, the Apple Newton Messagepad uses stylus input method in the early 90s. I may be wrong, but it's the first of it kind then.

 

[kk200]

When, if ever, has Huawei done anything original?

They're targeting the mainland Chinese market, who is infatuated with everything Apple. Couple that with loose copyright laws...

Same as Samsung. Their phone has more features than iPhone. so yes, they have original things.

 

[The Game 161]

Looks familiar lol

 

[ISmohsin]

I just saw the screenshots online, man they even copied the home screen with the recent apps view and control center.

Bruhh recent apps view has been like that on Android since... forever. Control center I agree with. That's a complete ripoff of iOS and iPadOS cuz Android's control center is vastly different.

 

[sinsin07]

That's like saying that Apple borrowed multitouch interface from Corning because they used their glass.

No, its not like saying multi touch was borrowed from Corning. That's a false equivalence.

Samsung used Wacom's pen tech.

Thank you for admitting it.

This tech was developed for non-screen tablets.

Not clear what you are referring to here.

Using pen on the tablets with capacitive screens was Samsung's idea later borrowed by Apple.

What about the Wacom Cintiq?

The Cintiq line makes up Wacom's group of interactive pen displays, LCD monitors combined with pressure-sensitive digitizing tablets. As of October 2011, this line includes three separate models: a 12 inch display with 1024 levels of pressure and 21 and 24 inch tablets, each with 2048 levels of pressure. These tablets give artists and designers the feel of working on paper combined with the benefits of working digitally.

Here's Jason Pohl from Orange County Choppers working on one from it looks like 2009:

Also:

1996​

The year that a president signed a bill using an electronic pen for the first time. President Bill Clinton used a Wacom pen and tablet to sign the Telecommunications Act of 1996, after first signing the bill using the pen that Dwight Eisenhower used to sign the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956, which established the interstate highway system. Wacom’s Yamada noted that the use of the digital pen, which was requested by the Clinton administration, “contributed greatly to our company’s fortunes.

Here's a video of Jason Pohl of Orange County Choppers using one in what looks like 2009: