So even ones losing millions aren't completely "dead in the water", but the point is Apple and Samsung lead by a MASSIVE margin.
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Huawei Continues to Catch Apple, But Still Fighting to Gain Popularity in United States
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So even ones losing millions aren't completely "dead in the water", but the point is Apple and Samsung lead by a MASSIVE margin.
What a ethnocentric comment and an ignorant one at that. If many foreigners have no problem purchasing Apple products with names like iPad and iPhone, then why can't we purchase a product named Huawei? I mean we buy Hondas, Nissans, and Toyotas. Why would we have a problem with Huawei?
I said "principle", as in design principle constraints, not details in dimensions and such.
- A smart phone is basically a rectangle with a touch screen. You are free to design what that rectangle look like.
- A car is basically a box on wheels. You are free to design what that box look like.
Just like cars, there's nowhere that said the phone has to be certain dimension. Who say it can't have bezels? Who say it can't be bigger or smaller than certain sizes? There's no hard constraint but the designer's limited imagination. Like I said, if you look at different major upgrade of the iPhone, they are look different, except for the lazy iPhone 7 which is just another iPhone 6. More over, other companies like Sony, LG, etc designed that "rectangle" to be very different than iPhone. Why can't Huawei do the same except being lazy or purpusefully trying to piggy back to the iPhone established brand?
But nobody would buy a phone which is 2 inches thick, 10 inches hight and 5 inches wide, or with huge bezels.
So, you are still bound by dimensions, in cars much less so, you have far more design "freedom" than designing a small phone.
I owned a Mate 8 and it has been my daily driver phone (due to the big screen to body ratio,longer lasting battery) instead of my iPhone, gaming is still definitely on the iPhone. It has been updated to Nougat but I don't expect any more future updates for it.
Plus I only got it brand new for 290USD with full one year warranty in a clearance sale, bargain!
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Update: Spokespeople from Chinese phone manufacturers Huawei and ZTE tell Business Insider that none of their phones are impacted by the software. A Huawei spokesperson said, "The company mentioned in this report is not on our list of approved suppliers, and we have never conducted any form of business with them."
Plus I only got it brand new for 290USD with full one year warranty in a clearance sale, bargain!
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Phew. I'm glad i read this but also noted that Huawei phones are not impacted by this.
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Update: Spokespeople from Chinese phone manufacturers Huawei and ZTE tell Business Insider that none of their phones are impacted by the software. A Huawei spokesperson said, "The company mentioned in this report is not on our list of approved suppliers, and we have never conducted any form of business with them."
What's so difficult to understand?
Price is HALF of iPhone - fact, no bias
Casing - same metal better finish - no bias
Design - if you don't fault iPhone you can't fault this either - no bias.
Oled Screen better, more ram, better front Cam - no bias
Android supports more functionalities - no bias.
Above are just facts. But of course, I think you may come and argue that iPhone feels better with the apple logo and worth more.
like I said some countries in the world already scraping 2g network. I don't see your point about CDMA. Go change carrier instead of sticking with the ancient.
A Ferrari is 10 times the cost of most autos yet there is a two year waiting list. So what's the point of price again, the entirety of what you get for your dollar is not the same (and the iPhone has an iconic look, like a 'vette).What's so difficult to understand?
Price is HALF of iPhone - fact, no bias
Casing - same metal better finish - no bias
Design - if you don't fault iPhone you can't fault this either - no bias.
Oled Screen better, more ram, better front Cam - no bias
Android supports more functionalities - no bias.
Above are just facts. But of course, I think you may come and argue that iPhone feels better with the apple logo and worth more.
like I said some countries in the world already scraping 2g network. I don't see your point about CDMA. Go change carrier instead of sticking with the ancient.
As far as supporting more functionalities continuity, handoff, 3dt, Live Photos, iCloud photo sharing, ecosystem integration with macs, support for 5 years at least, native messaging and video calling plus others are not available in android. But hey, android has a file system.
An iPhone for those reasons is worth it to me, may not be worth it for you.
And as I said I'm not changing my carrier because of a phone, the phone should be offered on my carrier.
Apple proprietary functionalities are available in Android in one form or another. For someone who doesnt have a bucket load of cash and have no affinity to any brand - to them paying 2x price for something which doesnt have much (or any) advantage would sound crazy.
Maybe in your dream iphone is a ferrari and others are lada. But if you wake up, it is more like you thought you got a great deal paying 2x more for a ferrari over a Lamborghini.
You could have said the same thing about Blackberry, Nokia or Microsoft's Windows at some point.
Huawei doesn't need to be as good as Apple. They need to be good enough for most people.
My value system is different than yours, and as such the value/price ratio of the iphone is worth it to me. It doesn't matter what someone else believes is better, I spend my dollars as I see fit and that vendor wins my business. As the poster above me said, the phone has only to be good enough for me. And I suspect that is what many people thoughts are.
The proprietary functions that I don't have to install or configure or cajole others to install are why I like the iphone. Given the number of people who buy iphones, it would seem I'm not alone in my evaluations of the product and I doubt all of apples customers, have "boatloads of cash" as you put it. But I find paying 2x for something I believe has a clear advantage doesn't sound "crazy" in the least.
Oh my, did you think I am talking about you?
I never said it is about you or your value system. It is about consumers in China and in other countries where these China brands are increasingly become widely available.
I'm using me as an example to your post. I thought this was an internet discussion board, where it is common to comment on the posts of othersOh my, did you think I am talking about you?
I never said it is about you or your value system. It is about consumers in China and in other countries where these China brands are increasingly become widely available.
(actually imo, one of the best)I'm using me as an example to your post. I thought this was an internet discussion board, where it is common to comment on the posts of others
Hmm.. but you are definitely not a good sample to describe a typical consumer in china.
But this topic is not about a consumer in China, it's about this phone manufacturer fighting to gain popularity in the US, which is my point of view.
The main theme of article is about Huawei gaining on apple in sales (but you can depend on the news section to put a different spin on it).
The battle ground is China now . The article did mention Huawei in Canada very soon. I wouldn't say the US mobile market is a fair competitive market given the actual cost of the handset is hidden in the monthly contract charges.
They have a ways to go on the US for the reasons I mentioned, imo. But China it seems can go either way. The biggest loser will be Samsung, not Apple.
Apple got clobbered last year in China even when apple didn't have a disaster like note7.
Samsung will make a big comeback with s8 and note8 this year in China.
And I guess Apple will make a big comeback with the rumored i8 or whatever it's going to be called. Apple will continue to lose marketshare, but gain in percentage of profits in the smartphone industry worldwide. Samsung is going to be the loser in China.
One thought: I wonder if there will really be an i8 or whatever it will be called this year? I can see a new cheap, an S and an S+.
Wondering ...
Of course you are correct in that it's not official until Apple announces it. It makes no sense to me to release two different models simultaneously, but I'm new here and I'm not running apple.
Honda? Easilly pronounced by phonetically sounding out the letters. And by the way, Honda is Japanese.
Nissan? Also easilly pronounced by typical Americans. Oh, and Nissan is also Japanese.
Toyota? Really easilly pronounced by Americans. And, you guessed it. Toyota too, is Japanese.
Huawei? I’ll bet you $5 that walking up to 10 random people on the street in a random US town will yieled zero, that’s right, ZERO people who could either pronounce the name without being coached on the pronunciation, much less who have even heard of the brand.
So tell me how I’m being at all ignorantly ethnocentric? Or do you just enjoy slandering random internet people? Becase I’m not quite sure how I’m devaluing anything about this largely unknown (in the US) Chinese company by stating the obvious fact that the company’s name is A) difficult for the average American to pronounce without hearing it spoken first and B) not known by the average American.
Sheesh.
I'd be perfectly willing to give Huawei a shot as a Canadian, but they don't seem to care. They've never made any of their flagships for sale here in any retail arena. the p8, P9 and P10 aren't for sale here either. How do you "crack" a market you don't sell in? I'm not buying last generations Mate device.
and I'm also not paying flagship premium for a P10. if the P10 and iPhone 7 are the same price, why would I buy the P10? (I really, REALLY detest how blatantly the P10 looks like the iPhone, and i'm usually one of those nay sayers that defends "rounded rectangles". But the P10 is shameless)
Retail non-locked P10 price is at least 30% less. Maybe the reason it is not offered is because Huawei can't keep up with the demand in China.
I would love to hear how you've done this with Fluid.
I'm now googling for the PPC build of Dropbox.