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Even with the "happy or not" qualifier, I'm not so sure it's a feeling of being "locked in."

For me, it's being stoked that my Apple iPhone, iPad, Watch, laptop and desktop work so well together in a seamless manner. iMessage, notifications, continuity, handoff, Music, ApplePay, etc working across all devices is a huge plus. It's something I depend on everyday. It's even the little stuff like my Watch automatically unlocking my iMac.

Some might call that "lock in," I call it outstanding integration, synergy and user experience, that fosters productivity/creativity. I would only feel locked in if other competing platforms had better better overall integrated user experiences, and leaving Apple would be much too difficult. So far I haven't seen that.
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You should try experiencing that feeling of your's when you only have PowerPC Macs and one Intel Mac limited to Snow Leopard max.

There is no "lock in" when running Leopard 10.5.8. In fact, there's no service integration at all! :D

App store? iTunes sync? iMessage? Hand off? Forget it!

This is where Google services is my friend. I don't experience lock in at all, but neither do I feel as if I'm missing anything either.
 



Huawei, the world's third-largest smartphone maker, continued to gain on Apple in the first three months of the year, with an impressive 21.7 percent growth, according to market research firm IDC.

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Huawei shipped an estimated 34.2 million smartphones worldwide in the first quarter, capturing 9.8 percent market share, based on data from IDC's Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker. That's up from an estimated 28.1 million smartphones it shipped in the year-ago quarter.

By comparison, Apple shipped an estimated 51.6 million iPhones in the quarter for 14.9 percent market share. Apple essentially saw no smartphone growth in the quarter as the market remains highly saturated, and due to seasonality factors as consumers anticipate a widely rumored trio of new iPhone models.

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Huawei has previously outlined its ambitions to dethrone Samsung as the world's largest smartphone maker within the next four years, a tall task that would require leapfrogging Apple in the process.

"We want to grow into top two market share, and, in the future, top one by 2021," Huawei's consumer head Richard Yu said in February.

Huawei's biggest problem is that it still lacks considerable brand awareness in the western world. In the United States, it does not even crack the list of the top ten most popular smartphone brands, largely because it lacks agreements with the country's biggest carriers Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.

American customers have to resort to retailers such as Best Buy or Walmart, or Huawei's direct sales website, to purchase one of their unlocked devices, reducing the brand's visibility in the country.

Huawei has yet to reveal any larger plans for the United States, but in Canada, the company will begin selling its flagship P10 and P10 Plus smartphones through nationwide carriers Rogers and Bell starting in early June. Huawei has also been pushing its brand in Canada during the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs.

If Huawei can find success in Canada, then perhaps it will consider tackling the much larger U.S. market next.

Article Link: Huawei Continues to Catch Apple, But Still Fighting to Gain Popularity in United States

Communist China Spy Phone.. UMM NO THANKS... Never would I buy from this company. Id rather buy a google phone or samsung but never anything like this from China state run company...
 
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You should try experiencing that feeling of your's when you only have PowerPC Macs and one Intel Mac limited to Snow Leopard max.

There is no "lock in" when running Leopard 10.5.8. In fact, there's no service integration at all! :D

App store? iTunes sync? iMessage? Hand off? Forget it!

This is where Google services is my friend. I don't experience lock in at all, but neither do I feel as if I'm missing anything either.

I hear you bro... I may have to get a new car someday so I can have power steering, FM radio, and windows that go up and down without a hand crank.
 
I hear you bro... I may have to get a new car someday so I can have power steering, FM radio, and windows that go up and down without a hand crank.
LOL!

It works for me though. My iPhone is jailbroken so I can browse the file system, Dropbox still works (they cut us off two years ago, but we have a guy maintaining a PowerPC build for us) and I have a Fluid app for messaging through my iPhone using Remote Messages.

My G5 Quad and the rest do everything I need and they happen to be able to use Google services. :D

I get by even during the times I have no jailbreak. :)
 
Those who are willing to spend more on phones, will spend more on phones.

As for me, the "smart phone craze" is definitely over.
If it were not for LINE and GPS/maps, I would probably go back to a traditional flip phone.
Even so, if my aging Note 4 finally gives up the ghost, I probably buy I less expensive brand.
And yes, I feel kind of stupid now, to have spent 800$ or so, on a mobile phone.
I never said those who can buy expensive phone buy expensive phones. I said if they afford it, they'll buy better[b/] phones.

And you've always spent a lot on phones. Just before the only way was subsidized contracts. Now most phone companies give you the option to buy outright.
 
Not too sure how much more you can do differently.
So the speaker holes are oval. Even if they’d made them ciruclar would it have been a big deal? People have been making round speakers and round speaker holes for years.
Edges, they surely have to be sharp, chamfered or rounded. Not a lot of choice to distinguish themselves there.
Oval plug hole in the centre. Big deal it follows the shape of the plug - what else did you expect?

It’s a slab with a screen on the front, how much variation do you expect? I mean really. Phones don’t look similar to the iPhone because of what Apple did. They also look that way because there are only so many things you can do within the realms of smart phone design.

Guess what cars still have a wheel at each corner, glass on the front back and sides and doors to facilitate entry. There are only so many changes you can make.
You forgot to the Apple fanboy Sheeps Apple invented the smart phone. No phone ever existed before their times. Lol
 
True. But you can get it from Huawei for $400 less than Apple.

Eventually people will decide that a US$200 Android phone will be good enough to check Facebook and realize they can spend the other US$650 that Apple would charge on other things.

People like that already buy Android phones.

Statistics after statistics show that iPhone users are more likely to use the phone for shopping, browsing, apps, etc.
 
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Actually no - that's apple vs oranges.

Consumer products are more fragile and for certain change in popularity.

Apple products aren't fragile. We've heard that for 10+ years.

Predicting Apple's doom is like saying it'll happen some day.

Every company will cease to exist some day.
 
That's a nice looking phone—but I can't help thinking that I've seen it somewhere before?

I know a whooping zero people that own a Huawei.

And I've yet to hear anyone ever say "I am so excited for the new Huawei reveal. "
 
Let's compare iPhone vs. any other ONE phone. Let's see how those numbers stack up. Somehow I don't think Samsung or any other company would want people to see those results.
 
They make good hardware. It's the gawd awful UI that's keeping people away. I've brought several Huawei (P8, Honor 5x and Honor 6x) phones over the years. The first thing I do is root and custom ROM, voiding my warranty be damned. I'll wait for the good folks over at xda developers to cook up something before I give the P10 a look.
Primary reason why I no longer buy Huawei or Samsung, and even with being experienced with flashing I can't bother with that anymore. Stock Android and iOS are all I can tolerate now.
 
"Huawei's biggest problem is that it still lacks considerable brand awareness in the western world."

So the thing we say about Huawei is, "Who are they?"
 
Huawei is a Shenzhen, China manufacture, that's why there is not that popularity..

If your in the same country that people who buy them, its gonna be higher always.
 
It's an awkward name for English speaking countries. Like Hyundai. They overcame the name but it worked against them at the start.

Exactly. I can't seem to figure it out myself. Is it supposed to be like "Hawaii" (if you don't pronounce it "Hawai-ee")? That's the closest I can figure.

And then yes, to the other point, if I want an Apple knockoff that runs Android, why not buy Samsung? Exploding batteries, I suppose.
 
Exactly. I can't seem to figure it out myself. Is it supposed to be like "Hawaii" (if you don't pronounce it "Hawai-ee")? That's the closest I can figure.

And then yes, to the other point, if I want an Apple knockoff that runs Android, why not buy Samsung? Exploding batteries, I suppose.

lol... like the sound of that
 
Chinese steal our stuff constantly. I know several people who have invented things, sent them overseas to be manufactured, only to see clones within months selling on Amazon from Chinese companies. Americans need to stand up and put an end to this nonsense. DONT buy their crappy knock off products, and lets all work on stopping companies hiring them to build our stuff. I wonder, if forced, could the Chinese actually INVENT something of their own? Currently their batting average is garbage.
OOOOHH, posts like that really wind me up. All races/countries have been inventing profound stuff for years. Your small view of the world makes you say things like that.
So what did America steal? I could get into that but let’s just say that it would turn the whole thread PRSI in a big way.
 
I know a whooping zero people that own a Huawei.

And I've yet to hear anyone ever say "I am so excited for the new Huawei reveal. "
If you live in the US, that's not surprising. Huawei is big in Asia and Europe.

Last week I noticed someone I know with a new phone. I asked her - "what did you get"? She showed me, it was a Samsung, and said she got it as a free upgrade, otherwise she'd had bought a Huawei, quote, "if I had to spend my own money".

Having had a P9 for a year, I know why. Value for money. Huawei makes excellent phones, and since EMUI 5, nothing really is missing - superb build quality, excellent performance (no slowdown whatsoever), very good UX, very good prices.

I tried the new S8 and even with the stunning design, I'd still prefer the P10 Plus. Nicer camera app and more features, probably much faster software updates, based on how they've been updating the P9.
 
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