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Huawei Delays Launch of Foldable Smartphone, Being More 'Cautious' After Samsung's Galaxy Fold Issues
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Your comment sounds like elitist, where only Apple is innovating. Most of the tech incorporated into Apple’s hardware is from 3rd party innovation, including gasp OLED and Qi
Are you afraid that a Far-East Asian company or companies can innovate and Apple requires them to manufacture the “affordable” hardware for your consumption. Apple requires China and India more so than those companies people need Apple, just look at the hardware numbers and usage of iOS to a Android in China and India who have the worlds largest population or even South America. Why such a smug attitude?
Please. His comment is 100% accurate.
Android vendors (and even Google themselves) are notorious for throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. All so they can claim to be "first" at something.
Look at the Motorola Atrix fingerprint sensor as an example. Complete garbage with a failure rate so high that if you owned one of these devices for any length of time there was almost a 100% chance it would fail. Then Apple released TouchID which worked great from day one. Even Samsung's version the following year was garbage until they finally caught up 2 years later by which time Apple was already using a second generation system.
And when Apple is first with something they all act like it's nothing important or not needed. I remember people claiming 64bit mobile processors aren't required when Apple surprised the entire industry with the A7. Comments like "you need over 4GB of RAM to take advantage of 64bit" (when they clearly don;t understand the difference between 64 bit addressing and a 64bit instruction set) or "there's no Apps to take advantage of it" when developers released powerful versions of their software within days of it coming out to use that 64bit processor. Meanwhile they all scrambled behind the scenes to bring their own to market and now 64bit is standard (though 5 years later they STILL aren't anywhere near Apple for processors).
Sorry to break it to you, but the smartphone industry revolves around Apple and the iPhone.
Meanwhile in the upside down world, Apple was first to introduce OLED, Qi, and invented the TouchID sensor and multi-touch that was invented years before the iPhone was even conceived. Does implementation equal innovation or the individual parts? TouchID 1G was not perfect, 2G improved vastly.
Other manufacturers had a notch display years before Apple, however lets believe Apple invented that too. I just call it as it is, you prefer Apple’s implementation within their devices, nothing wrong with that, it does not mean other companies are wrong. Look at the two/three camera implementation on iPhone, are you telling me others have not done that. What is good or not is subjective?
Yeah, except that NOBODY has ever claimed Apple invented fingerprint sensors, notched displays, OLED displays or wireless charging. So why are you making stuff up that isn't true?
Any orientation FaceID verification is what I am referring to.
Not sure what you class as dumpster fire, however Apple has their fair share, butterfly keyboard, MBP display, motherboard, battery problems, Touch disease, earphone problems, bending, battery expansion, antenna problems, etc.
All manufacturers experience problems, best to address it before it gets out of hand.
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Nope the attitude on these forums is that Apple is the sole innovator on this planet. I get it we are all Apple users and fans to whatever degree, that does not mean other companies are not pushing the innovation envelope. Some years Apple introduces its innovative implementation other years another company, this is how the industry works by borrowing from others that works or not. It does not mean it’s wrong it just means some companies are willing to try. If Apple is the only company innovating the entire tech industry is doomed, diversity even in this industry is welcomed.
I certainly would not want a Steve Jobs running Apple, another HP, IBM, etc how boring is that we need different approaches and lines of implementation.
Most would agree that Googles NightSight is above and beyond anything Apple presently has, yet we don’t question why that is. Always quick to defend Apple are we
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Are you aware of anything THEY have actually done to damage their reputation?
I mean, proven stuff, you know, stuff you can actually point to documented evidence and such...
Every tech company that has at least a decade of existence has announced or released a product that either had flaws or the technology wasn’t quite there yet to really make it a success. Including Apple.
I feel like this is trying to be a solution to a problem that nobody has. Meanwhile, actually using this gimmick bit of un-ripe tech causes actual (and severe) problems. I am all for R&D, but that's what this is right now, to use it in products at this point is irresponsible.
New operating system - barely tested -, new radical design - tested by Samsung and a miserable fail! - and a ban in the US, seriously, what can go wrong…!
Some choose to believe that Apple and America are the center of the universe. Unfortunately iPhone sales have been sliding, market share in developing companies have been stagnant if not in decline and the National debt is funded mainly by foreign countries.
Just my observation, neither a hater or lover of the parties involved. People love getting into turf wars for no reason when all these companies are global and the politicians are artificially controlling productivity in the name of national security *cough*$*cough*
Oddly enough when these companies hide they money offshore and not pay taxes which hurts the countries citizens from being prosperous, who exactly is winning
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We would not be flying today in planes if brave souls did not aspire to innovate without risk
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Solution to a problem like multi-size tablets, that still run a phone OS for both Apple and Google. Yep, tablets are hugh phones and looking to replace laptops. Nothing is ever ripe, it evolves you know like life on earth
........and clearly is not without its issues either as evidenced by Huawei's and Samsung's struggles.
Please refrain from making assumptions, you do not know if Huawei has issues with the folding display, Samsung had but that does not mean Huawei has issues with it, they just want to be sure they won't be making the same mistake as Samsung by testing it out for a longer period of time.
They might have issues, or might not.
Nope the attitude on these forums is that Apple is the sole innovator on this planet. I get it we are all Apple users and fans to whatever degree, that does not mean other companies are not pushing the innovation envelope. Some years Apple introduces its innovative implementation other years another company, this is how the industry works by borrowing from others that works or not. It does not mean it’s wrong it just means some companies are willing to try. If Apple is the only company innovating the entire tech industry is doomed, diversity even in this industry is welcomed.
I certainly would not want a Steve Jobs running Apple, another HP, IBM, etc how boring is that we need different approaches and lines of implementation.
Most would agree that Googles NightSight is above and beyond anything Apple presently has, yet we don’t question why that is. Always quick to defend Apple are we
You and I must be reading VASTLY different threads on this forum. I see a LOT more commenters trashing Apple than I see them praising Apple, and I see NO ONE claiming anywhere CLOSE that Apple is the sole innovator on the planet (yet, I do see lots of people claiming that's what they read). I'll be the first to admit, I don't visit all of the forums or boards, but I see FAR more people SAYING it exists than it actually existing.
Apple users have always been like that. Very demanding, never satisfied. Watch some youtube videos you will see developers at WWDC trashing Steve Jobs in person. Very different from Windows users who are kind of like Oompa Loompas satisfied with whatever they get as long as they can play games.
Previously an Atrix owner. Can confirm. THE worst fingerprint scanner in history.
The folding display concept opens a lot of interesting possibilities. However I don't think I could handle that crease. Once they figure out the crease issue I'd be more interested.
Source for this claim. Specifically, where are people claiming Apple invented OLED, fingerprint, wireless charging or notched displays (as per your original post).
You have any quotes from people on these forums where those claims are made?
Maybe they don't have a good reputation in the U.S., but in Europe and much of Asia where Huawei is actually selling their phones they are a very strong brand that has the reputation of making solid smartphones. You don't become the second largest smartphone OEM in the world with a bad reputation.
No surprise. Compromised product, just like the Samsung version, without any real value proposition.
Blind criticism can fluke out and be correct, but that doesn’t mean your reasoning was.
Is Privacy an option?
Huawei today confirmed it is delaying the launch of its Mate X foldable smartphone from June to September for quality assurance purposes.
Huawei's Mate X
A spokesperson for Huawei said the Chinese smartphone maker is being more "cautious" after some reviewers experienced embarrassing display issues with Samsung's foldable smartphone, the Galaxy Fold. "We don't want to launch a product to destroy our reputation," the spokesperson told CNBC.
Samsung delayed the launch of the Galaxy Fold back in April and plans to announce a new release date "in the coming weeks," according to CNET.
Last month, the Trump administration added Huawei to a trade blacklist over alleged national security concerns, effectively forbidding U.S. companies from doing business with the Chinese smartphone and telecom giant, but a Huawei executive said that supply chain issues are not behind the delay.
Huawei is instead postponing sales of the Mate X in part to improve the quality of the device's folding screen, said Vincent Peng, a senior vice president at Huawei, on the sidelines of a Wall Street Journal tech conference in Hong Kong.
Adhering to the ban, Google parent company Alphabet previously said it will no longer license Android to Huawei for its smartphones after a 90-day reprieve granted by the U.S. government expires in August. In this event, Peng said Huawei could have its own Hongmeng operating system ready by early next year.
"Our preference will of course be Google and Android as we have been partners for many years," said Peng, according to Reuters. "But if the circumstances force us to, we can roll out Hongmeng in six to nine months."
It is unclear if Apple will ever release a folding iPhone, but it has certainly explored the idea in patents. The technology is not cheap, with Huawei's Mate X expected to start at $2,600 in the United States, and clearly is not without its issues either as evidenced by Huawei's and Samsung's struggles.
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Your comment sounds like elitist, where only Apple is innovating. Most of the tech incorporated into Apple’s hardware is from 3rd party innovation, including gasp OLED and Qi
Are you afraid that a Far-East Asian company or companies can innovate and Apple requires them to manufacture the “affordable” hardware for your consumption. Apple requires China and India more so than those companies people need Apple, just look at the hardware numbers and usage of iOS to a Android in China and India who have the worlds largest population or even South America. Why such a smug attitude?
Apple requires China and India more so than those companies people need Apple, just look at the hardware numbers and usage of iOS to a Android in China and India who have the worlds largest population or even South America.
Manufacturing is moving to other Asian countries, corporations will find a cheaper place to manufacture, Apple designs and controls manufacturing process so just because some company is manufacturing in China doesn't mean they are smart, those companies ate providing labor & space for manufacturing, Apple own everything there.
Android market share is high in Asia because people can buy Android phone for as low as 100$.
Huawei has a working 5G, Apple has 4G, Intel has decided not to play. Yes, Huawei has a reputation in China, just as Apple has in America, Samsung in A.Korea, Sony in Japan, etc.
You are falling into political nonsense, I would recommend waiting till all the facts are laid out
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So you are supporting and not reporting unlawful behaviour concerning lives. Tell me do you support drinking and driving too
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Working prototype like FaceID on iPhone X/XS/XR, the finished product is on iPad Pro
Face ID is/Was never beta, was never beta either, I had iPhone X, now own XS, worked flawless, still no Android phone is able to copy Face ID technology yet, it might take another 2 years before they can catch up.
For $100 with similar if not better hardware
Apple even went so far and discounted the XR in China, while in other parts of the world, nope.
Apple owns nothing in China, the government does
China has the raw resources, processing and almost every part of the manufacturing process. There is a reason why things are not built in USA, it’s not just labour and wages.