Well, very unlikely they’ll ever be able to release anything at all anymore outside of China, so who cares.
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Huawei Delays Launch of Foldable Smartphone, Being More 'Cautious' After Samsung's Galaxy Fold Issues
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Well, very unlikely they’ll ever be able to release anything at all anymore outside of China, so who cares.
It just baffles me that these companies thought they were ready. Samsung had two press conferences discussing it. They had marketing materials... release dates... pre-orders... and deals with retailers and carriers.
And then "oops... I guess we didn't test it enough... back to the drawing board..."
Seriously?
Talk about jumping the gun...
And then "oops... I guess we didn't test it enough... back to the drawing board..."
Seriously?
Talk about jumping the gun...
Android does not have to copy or implement FaceID, that is Apple’s solution for removing TouchID. Android is steering towards under-display fingerprint scanning.
Just because Apple choose Face authentication does not mean others have to do the same.
If another company incorporated Iris Authentication that does not mean FaceID is lame, it is how a company prefers to incorporate various biometric options.
I LOVE this phone. Never held it, tried it, or antying like that. But I already know. This thing looks AWESOME
I never understood the bezel-less thing, other than a "gee-whiz" thing that looks kinda cool (like the "phone-charges-other-phone" Galaxy S10 gimmick and the soul-sucking How-Do-You-Like-That ad campaign to go with it (sorry for the earworm..)
The bezel serves a *very* useful purpose - it's a place where finger smudges are less visible/annoying. Anyway, if you're watching a YT video in full screen mode, how the heck are you supposed to hold your smartphone? A velcro-Phone-Glove or something?
Oh man... Sad face for all those craving a phone that's about the thickness of 2015 MBP when folded.
I would like to see you put your MBP in your pocket
In today’s age of technology, tech companies can’t afford to release a ‘shotty product’ anymore, because consumers flock to the web to read reviews _and_ write reviews about a product, and if there’s anything that gives a ‘bad rep’ to tech companies, it’s bad reviews from consumers. The Samsung Galaxy fold has potential, but it wasn’t ready for mass production, and even though Samsung will eventually release it again, the damage is done and a negative strike is already on their record.
Huwaei restraining their release of their version of a folding display, was a smart move, there’s no sense in releasing something if it’s not ready.
Huwaei restraining their release of their version of a folding display, was a smart move, there’s no sense in releasing something if it’s not ready.
Gosh, it’s almost like flimsy folding touchscreens are a bad idea. It’s like with the curved display on the Galaxy line. No one I know actually likes it.
Well, it brought Samsung and Huawei about a week of good press. I remember this forum the day the galaxy fold was announced. It felt like the servers would melt from all the criticism being levelled at Apple for no longer innovating, especially since it came soon after the cancellation of AirPower.
I hope it was worth it for Samsung. How the tables have turned.
I hope it was worth it for Samsung. How the tables have turned.
I can't speak for everyone but personally what I found to be disingenuous were comments about how having a foldable tablet in your pocket seems like a dumb idea. I get people's complaints about Samsung's implementation but the idea in theory is great. It's perplexing to me that people really think having an iPhone that can fold out into an iPad is somehow a bad idea or unnecessary, it would be incredible to have that sort of screen real estate fold into your pocket.
I always wondered why people have not gotten out of this tribal mentality, may it be sports teams, tech companies, software, diet preferences, political affiliation, car brands, climate, etc.
Why not just use what you like, people even go so far and have favourites for parents or children, this really messes people up and no good comes of it. There is more fighting over useless things then getting together for a harmonious solution.
Who cares who is first or who does what better, are you getting paid to advertise by any of these companies?
I always wondered why people have not gotten out of this tribal mentality, may it be sports teams, tech companies, software, diet preferences, political affiliation, car brands, climate, etc.
Why not just use what you like, people even go so far and have favourites for parents or children, this really messes people up and no good comes of it. There is more fighting over useless things then getting together for a harmonious solution.
Who cares who is first or who does what better, are you getting paid to advertise by any of these companies?
I thought I made it clear some time back that I don’t receive a cent from Apple. Heck, I don’t even own any Apple stock.
I too would love to all of us to just “use what we like”. Thing is, it’s practically impossible to not run into people crapping on Apple all the time. Sometimes justified, but most of the time, it’s just purely irrational and unjustified.
And this makes it extremely difficult to enjoy my time online when you have people hurling vitriol just because I use Apple products and happen to like them.
To me, it goes beyond tribalism. Through my time spent owning Apple products and trying to understand Apple, I guess I have come to see Apple in a certain light. And when I see people online argue about Apple using information which I feel is factually incorrect, I simply step forward to try and set the record straight.
And I guess it’s helping my case right now that Apple is on a roll right now, and has been right more times than not.
That’s all there is to it. If I want a nice safe space, I will have to fight for it, because the critics are clearly never going to let up.
It is a bad idea. At least going by Samsung’s current implementation.
What you have isn’t a phone that can unfold into a tablet, because that implies that the galaxy fold in its folded phone state is remotely anywhere near as good to use as a dedicated smartphone.
Rather, it’s a tablet that you can fold in half. Look at the Samsung keynote again. The first thing the presenter did upon taking it out of his pocket was to immediately unfold it. That product is practically unusable as a phone. The screen is tiny and it’s twice as thick.
And I simply don’t it is a great user experience to have to unfold your tablet every time you want to use it (and then fold it again when you want to put it away). Multiply that by the number of times you typically take your phone out to check on it. It gets frustrating very quickly.
So what you have is a crappy android tablet that Samsung is attempting to sell at twice the typical iphone price. Which is nuts. Maybe the components and R&D do make it that expensive, but the experience it offers is definitely nowhere near that.
This is the problem when you have engineers excited about hot new tech and then trying to turn it into a viable product, when it should be the other way around (start with the desired end experience).
Not to mention that Samsung’s own internal QA team evidently didn’t pick up on the screen issues before sending it out to you tubers. Which speaks volumes about their apparently dysfunctional corporate culture.
I could go on, but I think you get the point. The concept of a folding screen is fundamentally flawed to begin with. I don’t see why someone would want to carry a small tablet that folds into a suboptimal smartphone instead of just carrying a way better smartphone around.
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It's kinda poetic actually.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/30/tech/samsung-china-tech-theft/index.html
Samsung rushed out their folding phone to avoid being one-upped by Chinese phone companies who had presumably stolen their folding screen tech (I suspect Huawei is one of them here).
Then after the galaxy fold fiasco, Huawei realised that the tech they had stolen was pretty much worthless in its current incarnation because of how fragile it is. Not like they would have been able to ship it anyways, but I guess they can blame Samsung for not having developed better tech for them to steal.
Between the two, I am actually more sympathetic to Samsung.
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this article by far has the most snobby and smug first page reply i seen in a long time.
you don't like android? great! don't use it, i don't own an android either nor would i switch to one, but if it weren't for android, we would still be using iphone 4 sized iphone in 2019, android brought competition to apple and forced apple to be competitive, you wanna see what stagnation looks like, just take a look at intel from 2000s to 2015, literally 10 percent increment boost in performance at best, face it gents, we apple users need android to keep apple on its toes. we are all adults here(hopefully) at least show acknowledgement where acknowledgement is due.
apple innovate? what you live under a rock? apple has been playing catch up for some time now, wireless charging, full front screen, oled, higher megapixel cameras, fast charging, water proofing, heart rate monitors, all of these existed on android before apple adopted.
huawei is the 2nd most phone shipment brand after samsung for a reason, so yeah they do have a reputation, and a fairly good one in asia and europe. rumor has it ark/oak os is around 60 percent faster than android. trump trying to cripple them left and right and huawei just keeps bouncing back. gotta give them props for that.
and lastly, foldable phone is not some novelty idea, these of you dismissing huawei or samsung foldable would no sooner turn around and buy apple foldable once thats released, tech innovation starts from somewhere, so i'm glad samsung and huawei are taking the initiatives in doing this, the 2600 price tag is outrageous, but so are early lg oled tv, now i got a lg c8 65inch oled sitting in my living room for 1600.
i carry around my ipad with me to class, the idea of me able to fold my phone out into a tablet is amazing and space saving, samsung and huawei obviously did their research and realize there is a market for it.
i'll necro revive this thread and call out every single person saying foldable phone is a dumb idea when apple eventually release an iphone foldable in the near future.
you don't like android? great! don't use it, i don't own an android either nor would i switch to one, but if it weren't for android, we would still be using iphone 4 sized iphone in 2019, android brought competition to apple and forced apple to be competitive, you wanna see what stagnation looks like, just take a look at intel from 2000s to 2015, literally 10 percent increment boost in performance at best, face it gents, we apple users need android to keep apple on its toes. we are all adults here(hopefully) at least show acknowledgement where acknowledgement is due.
apple innovate? what you live under a rock? apple has been playing catch up for some time now, wireless charging, full front screen, oled, higher megapixel cameras, fast charging, water proofing, heart rate monitors, all of these existed on android before apple adopted.
huawei is the 2nd most phone shipment brand after samsung for a reason, so yeah they do have a reputation, and a fairly good one in asia and europe. rumor has it ark/oak os is around 60 percent faster than android. trump trying to cripple them left and right and huawei just keeps bouncing back. gotta give them props for that.
and lastly, foldable phone is not some novelty idea, these of you dismissing huawei or samsung foldable would no sooner turn around and buy apple foldable once thats released, tech innovation starts from somewhere, so i'm glad samsung and huawei are taking the initiatives in doing this, the 2600 price tag is outrageous, but so are early lg oled tv, now i got a lg c8 65inch oled sitting in my living room for 1600.
i carry around my ipad with me to class, the idea of me able to fold my phone out into a tablet is amazing and space saving, samsung and huawei obviously did their research and realize there is a market for it.
i'll necro revive this thread and call out every single person saying foldable phone is a dumb idea when apple eventually release an iphone foldable in the near future.
Yes respect for a company with no environment politics, which steals data from users and try to hide "mother" Google account forcing user to use Huawei account, a company which implement a eco-power mode which lets to run on background by default only apps they want for example killing telegram which Chinese government can't control. I cloud continue for a day which all the horrible things Huawei do from Smartphone to internet keys in the past... Yes respect Huawei probably the ********* company in the world.
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You are the classic example of blind user. Apple continue to innovate on software and hardware and never stopped. You can't say we would still use iPhone 4/5 size and probably unrealistic. Apple often implements things faster and more secure see CarPlay, HomeKit, FaceID, TouchID... the others go the cheap way like 2D Faceid, no working TouchID, smart home without security and privacy. Even tech specs, most fanboys like you ignore Apple was the first with retina, retina p3, Thunderbolt, PCie SSD (2013!!!), and since 2016 MacBook have 2GB/s SSD and now 3,2GB/s SSD, the faster ones when they come out... I could continue to write a page of tech Apple implemented first. When they are not the first, most of times they implement better. Writing idiotic statements like yours destroy any credibility of your posts.
How exactly is Huawei "controlling the technology of 5G" (which mean *what*? I thought 5G was just a set of protocols.) supposed to allow China to "spy"? Do they think that Huawei/China is going to build in circuits into the chip that will send every n'th packet "back to the mothership"? (Disclaimer: I have no idea what the state of the art in cyberwarfare is, and haven't read the Mueller report yet.)
In any case, isn't the answer just to use end-to-end encryption? Use session keys that rotate often enough, so that quantum-decrypting would be require 10K or so quibits. (Or just use lattice cryptography and WalnutDSA, which are thought to be quantum safe.)
Your the classic example of apple apologist
Your comments r factually incorrect I had Samsung sm951 before 2015 mbp came out, and had m.2 add on since 2013, u said it urself apple implements, apple ssd speed purely depends on how fast Samsung ssd is, that’s not apple innovation that’s Samsung innovation, apple retina really? Samsung amoled came out before that, higher contrast ips lcd panel is nothing new. Please go ahead and write a page, I can equally come up a page that many thinks apple did but didn’t.
Also tb3, Intel, that’s why I have it too on my gaming pc
Credibility of my post? Ur post worth Jack as much as the next guy on here, get off ur mighty high horses for a sec ya?
Samsung and Huawei and oneplus implemented under screen fingerprint reader, how much you wanna bet apple is gonna implement that into future iPhone.
The Samsung company that makes memory and SSDs is not the same Samsung company that makes phones. It’s a conglomerate of separate companies that share the same name.
"Adhering to the ban, Google parent company Alphabet previously said it will no longer license Android to Huawei for its smartphones after a 90-day reprieve granted by the U.S. government expires in August. In this event, Peng said Huawei could have its own Hongmeng operating system ready by early next year."
Good for Chinese market, bad for everyone else.
To avoid the ban, if Huawei starts their own OS,, the amount of buyers will plummet faster than a descending rocket which has lost control.
Good for Chinese market, bad for everyone else.
To avoid the ban, if Huawei starts their own OS,, the amount of buyers will plummet faster than a descending rocket which has lost control.
yes samsung has many division, but that doesn't derail my original statement
I always thought the Samsung folding phone looked awful, never mind the fact that it was a flawed product. Ridiculously thick when closed, it looked like two phones duct taped together. The tiny closed screen on the outside was a throwback to early 2000's flip phones, thus it could really only be used in unfolded mode. Had Apple come out with such a Frankenstiened hot mess the tech press would have savaged it. Samsung OTOH got nothing but praise until it broke so badly that the tech press all had to issue retractions of their earlier glowing reviews. Even then they gave Samsung credit for trying to innovate.
Leaving aside the durability and functional question, the Huawei phone on the other hand looked much better at least from a design point of view. I do suspect that if/when folding phones eventually become a reality they will look more Huawei's design.
Leaving aside the durability and functional question, the Huawei phone on the other hand looked much better at least from a design point of view. I do suspect that if/when folding phones eventually become a reality they will look more Huawei's design.
It's funny when you think about it.
If the product was anywhere near as problematic as the galaxy fold, just a little time spent with it would have revealed its issues for the world to see. It took a couple of youtubers a day to break the fold's display. What more a consumer with higher expectations because he spent a fortune on it?
Either way, Huawei has bigger problems on their plate now than not being able to release a folding phone.