What?
If anything it reminds me of Windows 11
Regardless, it's all just "what an OS looks like" nowadays
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What?
If anything it reminds me of Windows 11
Regardless, it's all just "what an OS looks like" nowadays
Don't understand the use case of this format. Too big as a tablet and too small screen as a desktop. Virtual keyboards are a mess for real two handed typing work so laptop mode is also wierd. I really hope Apple doesn't follow suit. A pocket sized foldable iPhone into an iPad mini makes more sense. The Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Fold has been out for some time now and it has a more convincing productivity approach.
How can Huawei copy a product that doesn’t exist?
People think that doing a product like this is as quick as seeing the leaks and developing their own version.
Years of R&D (a field where Huawei spends TONS of money), hiring the best people they can hire, spending years trying to develop a feasible product for the mass market. No no, they saw the leaks and made this product in a matter of months 🤓
It’s like only Apple is allowed to innovate. If you bring a product Apple has been developing first to the market… you’re copying.
Years of R&D (a field where Huawei spends TONS of money), hiring the best people they can hire, spending years trying to develop a feasible product for the mass market. No no, they saw the leaks and made this product in a matter of months 🤓
It’s like only Apple is allowed to innovate. If you bring a product Apple has been developing first to the market… you’re copying.
If Apple was first to market with new designs then I would agree but they’re not. Under Tim Cook Apple has become the last to market with so many new innovations because he’s a bean counter not a risk taker like Steve was.
How about Vision Pro? One can argue it is a solution looking for a problem or the price is too high, but the innovations are there and first of its kind?
While it is absolutely true for the average person to not conflate invention with innovation, you conflate what the market settles with and comfortable with how the market plays itself out as well as thinking mass market is the sole market to gauge innovation on.
You don’t need to create a mass-market thing or it resonating with the mass market to be innovative.
For example, Apple with the Vision Pro absolutely innovated by creating a non-mass-market standalone headset specifically for prosumers that resonated with important producers and consumers of that segment.
Especially the former towards prosumer hardware and software growth needed to create and consume compelling spatial content for the masses on actual headsets for the masses.
The price and tier of quality the Vision Pro specifically does not compromise its execution to appease mass market users to the benefit of its target audience.
Accordingly it unsurprisingly doesn’t resonate with the mass market (ordinary people) and the mass media outlets that cater to them.
It’s no different to other prosumer hardware in general such as Apple’s Mac Pro/Studio and Pro Display XDR besides ones that mass market media seem just in reach to maybe upsell them to mass market like the 5090 despite such things not being for most people.
High-end quality products of most product categories such as high-end cars such as Porsche Teycans and Aston Martins have the same approach to the benefit to the audience that can afford them.
Apple sells to many audience segments so many marginalized from the reveal of a prosumer hardware clearly not for most of them leads to chatty dismissals besides those who still hate their fundamentally closed-platform (or not serving them well for a particular device category).
Many mass market headset buyers are solely or primarily interested in the device category for gaming; as usual for their prosumer computing hardware Apple is not focusing on spatial gaming over professional quality representation of non-gaming content.
That has upset the same usual suspects of Apple’s approach to prosumer hardware regarding that.
Instead Apple with the Vision Pro has several inventions and innovations for productive computing with spatial computing that has resonated with the industry and thoughtfully copied by competitors for the better of all users interested in the category.
Apple has similarly innovated with their impact on the supply chain and baseline quality of headsets that has again propelled the likes of Canon and Blackmagic + premium content owners to support the device category in ways they did not before
I disagree.
I don’t understand how they can’t be useful. If someone makes use of an iPad, which many do, a foldable iPhone that turns into such a product is a huge win.
I have a iPad Pro that I don’t carry everywhere, but is very handy for business admin. When I have that iPad in my pocket at all times in the way of a foldable iPhone, I will be a very happy boy.
Roll on 2026, Apple, and take my money.
Have you tried to use that Asus? It felt cumbersome to set up. A normal laptop: open it and you can use it on your lap, on a table, in the airplane... not so much with a foldable. It felt cumbersome and fragile. Too big to hold, the separate keyboard is annoying, you have to put it on a table (no -lap- top). It was too big 🤷🏻♂️
When there’s no hard evidence one way or another, I believe in giving the benefit of the doubt, especially when there is nothing at stake for the giver of the benefit of the doubt. So I don’t agree with those assuming Huawei somehow copied Apple’s prototype and beat them to market. If you have no hard evidence, it’s just meaningless conjecture, regardless of what transpired in the past.
That said, I’ll flip the table—I wonder if those giving Huawei the benefit of the doubt in this instance, despite Huawei having a history of products and marketing being remarkably similar to Apple, with their CEO even openly calling Apple his “teacher”, if those people will also give Apple the benefit of the doubt the next time, say, Apple announces an future feature/product. If not, is there a double standard?
That said, I’ll flip the table—I wonder if those giving Huawei the benefit of the doubt in this instance, despite Huawei having a history of products and marketing being remarkably similar to Apple, with their CEO even openly calling Apple his “teacher”, if those people will also give Apple the benefit of the doubt the next time, say, Apple announces an future feature/product. If not, is there a double standard?
How many Huawei products have you seen to reach that conclusion? 'Apple look and feel'?
How much of iPhone/iOS in recent years has an 'Android look and feel'?
It is true that some Huawei products look similar to Apple products but then again that is almost bound to happen when products are expected to have a certain core form.
We don't see that many triangular phones or watches.
However, if you actually care to look, you will find all manner of designs from Huawei products and none of those even remotely similar to any Apple product beyond the core shapes.
Let's take earbuds as an example. How many of their models look like AirPods? Maybe one? Out of what? Seven? Does Apple have a FreeClip equivalent?
And from a design and technology viewpoint Huawei's earbuds have also topped Apple's.
This Matebook Fold is a bold move. It's demonstrating a desire to put out something that takes folding devices to a new level and it's running a system that melds a classic tablet approach with a desktop approach. It is not, in any shape or form a 'knockoff'.
HarmonyOS has been designed to scale from earbuds to desktops, cars, TVs... Just about anything that needs a system.
It's linking everything together using NearLink. Designed in house a fusing the best of WiFi, Bluetooth and 5G into one standard. Where is Apple's equivalent? Where is anybody else's equivalent for that matter?
It has one of the best tablet screens on the market (Papermatte). Some of the best tablets too.
Watches that run rings around anything Apple can offer in terms of battery life and designs and build quality that are universally praised.
Phones that offer something for everyone and have pushed the camera bar higher and higher since 2017. All Apple has done is drip feed features to users and most of them were Huawei firsts.
Batteries (chemistry, charging and heat management) that are industry leading. Years of R&D from research labs worldwide. Especially its Watts Lab.
The utterly silly notion that Huawei is somehow ripping off an Apple is incomprehensible.
Will we now say that polar codes were really an Apple idea that Huawei stole and brought to market? That its first 5G modem (2019!) was really an Apple idea?
Huawei is regularly one of the world's top patent filers.
A few years back it was rumoured that Huawei licences a handful of Apple patents. Do you know what the same article said about how many Huawei patents Apple was licencing? Almost 800!
If Apple goes ahead with its iPhone Air idea, it is very likely it will be licencing Huawei's graphene patents.
This product will have its tradeoffs and downsides but it's a first step from them to build on and I've seen several 'first contact' videos now and can say the key takeaway from those first impressions is that it looks absolutely astounding in use.
I remember Lenovo bought out a dual screen laptop approx 1 year ago. Never heard much about it after launch. Looks like it didnt take well to the market.
However I can see a reason for the Huawei Mate XT when completely folded out. And this also looks very cool and innovative.
However I can see a reason for the Huawei Mate XT when completely folded out. And this also looks very cool and innovative.
Exactly
When these products were getting sold in my country more & more people were buying them as you could buy them from a proper mobile phone store
I had a Huawei device it was actually really good it took good pictures
You do understand that Huawei devices looked better the iPhone’s before the iPhone X
Curiously, the VP is very 'Huawei' in the sense that they put a lot of effort into it and actually released it.
I've defended the VP from the get go because there is no better way to see how a product performs than on the market and in the hands of users. It isn't for everyone, though.
It's a bunch of tradeoffs and unaffordable for most but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have released it.
It will get better and so will the user experience. Currently it's a home/work device but once 5.5G/6G are added to future versions it will have more use cases.
In technology terms there isn't much that wasn't already available - at a price.
Meta could have easily shot for the stars with a similar maxed out device but chose to keep things affordable (even while selling Quest units at a supposed loss). Huawei could have done the same (and probably will seeing as it already has years of experience in the field).
Nothing in the VP is beyond others and most, if not all of it, was already available.
Real time operating systems aren't new, nor are gesture controls, nor are dedicated sensing chips etc. The screens are great quality but that is a supplier thing.
I like the idea of EyeSight but unfortunately Apple seems to have oversold the performance of that in its marketing material.
Apple decided to ship the best available but obviously at a price. That's commendable and I'd like to see them not 'play safe' going forward. I'd love for them to be more like Huawei in that sense.
I wouldn't say the innovation was earthshattering as the same system was in reach of most of the big VR players.
The big trade-offs are obviously battery, heat and weight but I don't think they kill the deal.
Things will get better the longer users can provide feedback to Apple.
My nightmare would be if future notebooks will not have physical keyboards anymore, because Apple might start that and all other will follow. Basically what happened with phones. So it future, if you still want a physical keyboard, you will have to buy an external one and carry it with your keyboard.
The software on the Vision Pro might improve and they could possibly make it cheaper
But the problem is you look like a geek
Wearing one and that’s the problem
My experience with native designed and built Chinese products is that they are inferior in quality, built to wear out, tarnish, break, so you will replace them every 3 years. I will never own a Chinese brand car in my lifetime nor fly in a Chinese brand aircraft. Cheaper in price, yes. Superior to the Euro-US brands they copy?… absolutely not. Products designed by Euro-US companies where the production, QA is carefully monitored and scrutinized by Euro-US companies has proven to work. But Chinese manufacturers (the world’s cheap labor source) continue to try to cheat and cut corners if they are not policed constantly… they simply cannot be trusted.
And yet 90% of apple products are made
In china
And they get paid $2.88 an hour to make your product
Not that is not people’s experience using
Huawei products or else they wouldn’t have
1 billion users then would they?
Yeah you could say this about chinese products in the past. They are trying to change that view by properly developing quality products, just look at Huawei and Xiaomi. They have amazing products, including cars (have ever been inside the Xiaomi SU7 or the Aito?). Huawei Matebool X Pro, amazing laptop, Pura 70 Pro, amazing phone, even their tablets are pretty good. Xiaomi also offers quality products, but Huawei is still above. The new Pura X is one sexy phone.
The only thing i’ll give it you is that software wise, many chinese companies simply don’t offer as much support as Apple does. Huawei might change that with HarmonyOS, but too early to tell.
But let me tell you a little secret: EVERYONE cuts corners where they can. They try to do it as much as they can to allow for a bigger profit margin.
Not only in China, but in the world. Apple's foldable iPad is only rumoured, but Huawei already has one.
There's a world outside the US.
Embarrassing take.
You do realise this company has been working on this for years right? The world doesn’t center around apple.
How many times have apple copied android and their features? Very much often. Just like apple will copy design for their foldable.