I mean, now that they have like 3 employees that’ll be pretty easy. They wont be able to run the company once they leave but I guess that’s fine 🤷♂️
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The company is now private. There is no open market manipulation to be had.
1. Over pay for company to the turn of $44 Billion
2. Separate "good" employees from "dead weight"
3. Create an egotistic firestorm so large that most people leave.
(NO) Profit!
2. Separate "good" employees from "dead weight"
3. Create an egotistic firestorm so large that most people leave.
(NO) Profit!
Even if 1/2 the workforce were expendable it's the way this went down that's a problem. Consider:
1. It's impossible to know who's performing and who's not in a week's time.
2. So much institutional knowledge just walked out the door that it's only going to make the near term operations more difficult than they needed to be. Business continuity is important.
3. I don't know how you convince anyone over 25 to work in these conditions. It might be tempting to hire all recent grads to run your company but I've never seen that pan out too well.
And it's just a crap way to treat people. Everyone who was let go, even the "chaff", is a real life person who's just had their livelihood stripped from them in a public and callous way. Layoffs are part of working (at least in the US) but there's no reason to be gleeful about it.
Years ago there were many people on these boards saying how necessary it was for Apple to acquire Tesla and as part of the acquihire Elon Musk becomes CEO of Apple. Thank goodness that did not happen. There might not be an Apple.
Question:
Who goes for this type of action, rhetoric, and behaviors from CEOs?
Answer:
I don't care to know.
Who goes for this type of action, rhetoric, and behaviors from CEOs?
Answer:
I don't care to know.
I mean who would have thought that a CEO demanding workers stay in office and transitioning employees into an essentially slave work force where the fruits of their labor will be unappreciated and require late nights and weekends subject to his whims, all without an increase in pay would drive so many to take their severance and run out the door?
Nobody wants to work for an egotistical jerk.
Nobody wants to work for an egotistical jerk.
Those sticking around are most likely those with work visas.
Yep it’s already dead. Never used much I have account but saw no purpose in the service boring to me LOL so no loss as far as I am concerned anyway
what is very funny on an Apple website is seeing people complain about the same things Jobs was famous for.That's simply not true. Musk has a long history of overworking people on a very regular basis and treating them like crap. Their turnover rate is unusually high and they've sued a number of times over the mistreatment and worker rights violations.
This isn't some test and it's ignorant to even suggest such. This is about a billionaire that acted a fool and bought a company for billions more than it was valued at, and he's not trying to keep a ship alive that he, himself, is actively shooting holes in at the same time.
Ex-Tesla employees reveal the worst parts of working at the company
Nine former Tesla employees who worked at the company from 2008 to 2019 described their least favorite parts of their jobs to Business Insider.www.businessinsider.com
Musk's Tesla factory workers sleeping on-site and working 12-hour shifts six days a week
New supply-chain issues have massively hit the billionaire's production targets.fortune.com
Elon Musk, Tesla are Pushing Factory Workers to the Brink As Profits Soar
Beginning in August, workers at the Fremont, California factory were informed that they’d be spending a lot more time at work.observer.com
Elon Musk's Latest Declaration Shows the Dark Side of Employee Engagement
Engagement isn't an unqualified good.time.com
SJ was famous for forcing people to work days and weeks at a time. Then berating them publicly in front of whole teams. He belittled people who would want to stop working and go home to see their familes.
Mind you I am an Apple fan and I think SJ was a genuis! I have a house FULL of Apple products and will continue to do so. But it would be amusing to see eveyone heres reaction if those things were to happen now....
I don't think this is about a billionaire just acting like a fool......if it is as you say...he won't around for very long then right? I mean lets give the Telsa inventor and Space X guy a little credit?
Sometimes you have to bring something dowen a notch to bring up to where you think it should or could be.
Think about the bigger picture for a moment. This man will still have to go to outside investors for funding of future effots. Do you really think he would risk all future endevors with investors if there wasn't a better solution in the works?
i am not so sure about that. Those are temp workers at best. No one builds their company soly on visa workers as they are temp workers.
Yea get that severance ASAP. When we got laid off a whlle back, we were the first wave and got some amazing severance terms. We heard from people laid off later, they got crap
Lol. Talk about a FAN.
Check it off his bucket list and move to the next item
Musk's weird android twitter spat with the android app dude shows Twitters's problem. Musk was like "this POS is slow because Y." The android guy who responded had been working on the app for years and had never been able to get whatever that feature was into an acceptable time parameter. Instead, he was like "CEO dude, you're an idiot."
Uh dude, as the android guy it's your role to push for your user's interests. If you knew this was a major issue for years why didn't you do something about it...like push on the backend team to make your backend API faster? There are many, many ways to get issues like this fixed...including going right to the team and trying to figure out what's happening.
The guy basically sat on his behind for years. And when called out he denigrated the issue reporter and pointed is fingers at some other team.
Does anyone want that sort of person working with them? To me, this engineer is a horrifying example of an engineer not putting their users first. And people rose up to defend this guy.
Come on, at least pretend you care.
Uh dude, as the android guy it's your role to push for your user's interests. If you knew this was a major issue for years why didn't you do something about it...like push on the backend team to make your backend API faster? There are many, many ways to get issues like this fixed...including going right to the team and trying to figure out what's happening.
The guy basically sat on his behind for years. And when called out he denigrated the issue reporter and pointed is fingers at some other team.
Does anyone want that sort of person working with them? To me, this engineer is a horrifying example of an engineer not putting their users first. And people rose up to defend this guy.
Come on, at least pretend you care.
Exactly.
If twitter is around in a month, any person that gets laid off will get a handshake and a Twitter t-shirt.
Just because a person has money doesn't mean they are intelligent
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Interesting read I found on twitter. Makes you wonder how much of this is all just built on a house of cards and blind luck.
Oh I don't know, he seems to have a few fanboys on this site... Maybe they fancy a life of hard labour just for the thrill of making the richest guy richer
H1Bs are heavily used in the tech industry. Rarely is it temp workers, most H1B holders I know stay for years or decades all while hoping to get perm residency somehow. It’s a raw deal and pretty crappy for the visa holders because there’s no direct paths to permanent residency beyond marriage and the green card lottery. If the visa is pulled by losing their job they have like a week to uproot their life and leave if they cant quickly line something else up. It’s basically low paid (relative to the industry) indentured servitude. There are a depressing amount of companies that *heavily* abuse the program and use it to staff up rven most of the company cheaply and with a workforce that cant easily leave crappy work conditions. So yeah, it’s totally plausible for musk to try and run twitter nearly entirely with H1Bs
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