Hundreds of Twitter Employees Leaving After Elon Musk's 'Extremely Hardcore' Work Demands

[Chazz12]

I'm from Europe, "long hours" is anything above 35h per week for me. The US labor system is terrifying.

I run a small IT business (15 people). Funny enough, our product is a social networking solution. Nobody works overtime, weekend shifts (tech support) are volunteer basis + double paid and everybody works from home. I wouldn't have it any other way even knowing that squeezing my team harder would yield more revenue. That's probably why I'll never be filthy rich

I tell my mom this all the time. Not to be political, but she was mad at the little tax increase corporations got, and I told her, "Mom, you do realize we are basically slaves to corporate America? They pay less in taxes than the normal person, and then they have us working more hours and most other countries in the world, especially developed countries!" It's just sad.

And don't worry, none of us working here in the US will ever be filthy rich either. The people that are already rich want us to keep serving them.

 

[Chazz12]

exactly.....what happens during a culture change? Conflict and change is the way business is handled after most take overs.
This is how they see who has roots and wants to adapt and change. The one constant thing in any technology company is constant change.....

That's completely false. A change in leadership doesn't have to come with all the conflict, if the leader is actually a good leader.

 

[CapitalIdea]

Oh no, so that means it’s not a paid vacation anymore, but they will actually have to perform? Welcome to the real world.

If all these people were just slacking off, doing nothing and it was a paid vacation, why did he hold emergency meetings yesterday to slow the bleeding and reverse the demand to end WFH? Why does he keep trying to get people who left to come back, and why are many critical teams now completely empty?

Instead of the dopey caricatures you seem to imagine, these people are instead fully capable of working, and do, but are also in a position where they can go elsewhere easily enough that they do not have to be **** on during their workday. I say, good for them. In "the real world" people work to live, they don't live to work.

 

[Chazz12]

How do you eliminate hunger with $44 billion? That's like $50 one time payment per each hungry person. Assuming the NGOs you give the money to don't waste half of it (which they will).

Not to mention, someone took that money from Musk, so they can donate it to charity too.

True. And world hunger goes deeper than just money. The world produces more than enough food for the entire world, at least before the Ukraine war, yet people are still hungry. I wonder how much food the person who said that throws away.

 

[7149041]

Mom, you do realize we are basically slaves to corporate America?

My company is actually incorporated in the US, I just applied the European labor standards to it because I want to. I was an employee long enough to understand what makes a terrible boss and how important life/work balance is.

If anyone in your company needs to do overtime, you suck as a manager.

 

[usagora]

I bet the ones that stay, work hard and excel will get VERY RICH

I know - something hard to understand for those who are offended when it rains

And, who try to crap on everyone else’s success

It's clear that many here intensely dislike Elon personally, so they have a hard time being objective now when it comes to Twitter news. He could rescue 100 puppies, and they'd still find a way to trash him for that, lol! And even aside from this particular topic, in general many people tend to think with their emotions rather than reason.

Oh, and reading through this thread, I didn't realize we had so many business experts on this forum. Incredible! /s

 

[seek3r]

Oh no, so that means it’s not a paid vacation anymore, but they will actually have to perform? Welcome to the real world.

What, exactly, makes you think they werent performing?

 

[Chazz12]

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Interesting read I found on twitter. Makes you wonder how much of this is all just built on a house of cards and blind luck.

I'm surprised Elon hasn't deleted the account yet. 🤣

 

[AltecX]

I bet the ones that stay, work hard and excel will get VERY RICH

I know - something hard to understand for those who are offended when it rains

And, who try to crap on everyone else’s success

The ones that stay are the ones that dont have faith in their resume to jump ship or are locked in to stay due to a Visa.

 

[7149041]

What, exactly, makes you think they werent performing?

He does have some point, I've seen videos like "one day in Twitter HQ" and the lady spent a solid half of her shift drinking lattes, green juices, having meals, sitting in the meditation room, chatting with her friends etc. The little work she did was basically sitting in a meeting room. Topped off with a glass of red wine before going home.

Now, I don't mean employees have to slave away without taking breaks or eating, but the opposite end of the spectrum is also unhealthy.

 

[AltecX]

I'm surprised Elon hasn't deleted the account yet. 🤣

Any one left on staff to delete it? DOuns like almost all department are either empty or running on just a tiny fraction of what it was.

 

[AltecX]

He does have some point, I've seen videos like "one day in Twitter HQ" and the lady spent a solid half of her shift drinking lattes, green juices, having meals, sitting in the meditation room, chatting with her friends etc. The little work she did was basically sitting in a meeting room. Topped off with a glass of red wine before going home.

Now, I don't mean employees have to slave away without taking breaks or eating, but the opposite end of the spectrum is also unhealthy.

I wouldn't be amazed if that vid was a joke, I've seen it. But I also know sales people that manage to bring in so much sales in a month that they crush the numbesr and then just relax the rest of the month. A buddy of mine managed to get so many sales he makes more than his companies CEO and they had to put a cap on how much a sales guy can make due to him. You bet he does almost nothing all month because he shows up to the meeting he needs to, brings in his numbers and it makes the company lots of money. Why do they care what it does any other day?

 

[catalystwork]

What a waste of money. He could have used that money to save humanity or eliminate world hunger. I feel really bad for the people working at Twitter and they have to deal with Elon. The fact it’s around Thanksgiving and holidays time makes it worst. I believe in Karma and Elon should too. 🧿🪬

To "save human or eliminate world hinger." You obviously have no idea the scope or causes of hunger globally. And none of that money ceased to exist, it merely changed hands. By your rationale, the people who have that money now could "save humanity" if they so choose.

 

[ggibson913]

Oh I don't know, he seems to have a few fanboys on this site... Maybe they fancy a life of hard labour just for the thrill of making the richest guy richer

Yeah, color me confused.

 

[catalystwork]

Not sure how. Twitter still has a massive problem with spam and bots on a daily basis. Elon is too busy and worrying about firing people instead. It almost seems like he hates Twitter. He wants it gone.

You cannot enact cultural change without changing the vast majority of the people. Culture has to come first, if they are going to shift the entire company.

 

[CapitalIdea]

It's clear that many here intensely dislike Elon personally, so they have a hard time being objective now when it comes to Twitter news. He could rescue 100 puppies, and they'd still find a way to trash him for that, lol! And even aside from this particular topic, in general many people tend to think with their emotions rather than reason.

Oh, and reading through this thread, I didn't realize we had so many business experts on this forum. Incredible! /s

Are you implying that, objectively, he has handled this entire deal (from the inception of it, through the lawsuit, through the forced sale, to the post-buy behavior) in a way that any reputable business expert would praise?

 

[jamezr]

That's completely false. A change in leadership doesn't have to come with all the conflict, if the leader is actually a good leader.

not true.....change in leadshership comes in different shapes and sizes. Not all fit the normal mold. Successful leaders using differnt methods. Not everyone will agree witht hose methods though....

 

[AltecX]

You cannot enact cultural change without changing the vast majority of the people. Culture has to come first, if they are going to shift the entire company.

So what part of changing the culture is massing tons of debt on a company that barely made a profit, then losing all your sales and ad teams, and your whole communications, support, internal and payroll staff?

 

[Shadowcatz]

Question:

Who goes for this type of action, rhetoric, and behaviors from CEOs?

Answer:

I don't care to know.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593558446657478656

Yes they built a platform where they ignored the rules to only allow ideas they agreed with.

 

[BellSystem]

He’s paying 3 mos severance, and since it’s a layoff everyone qualifies for unemployment too

Not if they rage quit

 

[AltecX]

Yes they built a platform where they ignored the rules to only allow ideas they agreed with.

massively proven false dozens of times, but clearly you dont care.

 

[macsplusmacs]

So what part of changing the culture is massing tons of debt on a company that barely made a profit, then losing all your sales and ad teams, and your whole communications, support, internal and payroll staff?

It's all just 4D chess.

We are not smart enough to figure it out, cause you know, he's a billionaire therefor smarter than us all.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

Of all the things that this world needs desperately enough to ask people to sacrifice double their health and family life over, saving the butt of the richest man in the worlds latest ill-concieved luxury acquisition has to rank at the absolute bottom. Elon’s already loaded it with debt, all he’s got to do now is make it unsavable and let it fully run aground to make a credible defense to the SEC, and he’s in the clear.

Twitter and the SEC now have as much to do with each other as your local privately-owned pizza shop does.

 

[macsplusmacs]

The FTC is going to use him as a piñata if he goes against the consent degree:

🤣😂😅

https://twitter.com/x/status/1592907968131239941

🤣😂😅

 

[Shadowcatz]

massively proven false dozens of times, but clearly you dont care.

What part was proven false? that Twitter employees did not apply Twitters stated rules equally? that has not been proven false.
I am not saying free speech. I am saying that they did not apply the rules equally for everyone on the platform. Which they did not.